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Yay Bernie! Got the double digits going on in Oregon! (Original Post) floppyboo May 2016 OP
Paper ballots in a closed primary, who'd a thunk? floppyboo May 2016 #1
When do we flush these bought and paid for pollsters down the toilet? aspirant May 2016 #2
Ii can no longer listen to Maddow. She used to a favorite. libdem4life May 2016 #4
Stopped watching M$NBC after they canned Schultz Ferd Berfel May 2016 #10
That's why they are still here, IMO. libdem4life May 2016 #13
huh? Ferd Berfel May 2016 #14
No, I meant why Maddow and Matthews are still there. They converted. libdem4life May 2016 #18
Ah! My misunderstanding Ferd Berfel May 2016 #20
actual numbers shows that poll was off by 27. litlbilly May 2016 #6
uh huh - and that means - California - maybe Clinton will approach with some modesty? floppyboo May 2016 #7
Consider me the jerk that has to point out that the plural of matrix is matrices. aidbo May 2016 #15
lol - thanks! floppyboo May 2016 #21
Yeah, only 275 delegates to go! He's right where he wants to be! YouDig May 2016 #3
"He's right" sure he's right, glad you agree aspirant May 2016 #8
#berniegrammar YouDig May 2016 #9
Now you psychically "see" how it works aspirant May 2016 #17
he only lost 1 county and by 1 vote. Just amazing. heres the map litlbilly May 2016 #5
Wow. Impressive! Good for Sanders and his supporters! nt. polly7 May 2016 #12
I am so proud of my home state. Early on he was losing Washington co, he ended up taking that by litlbilly May 2016 #16
You and yours did good! polly7 May 2016 #19
Congratulations. Sincerely, I'm glad Bernie supporters can see a good result of their movement. anotherproletariat May 2016 #11
yes, it helped keep their dreams alive. I don't think acceptance this time around is going to be the floppyboo May 2016 #22

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
1. Paper ballots in a closed primary, who'd a thunk?
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:30 PM
May 2016

There was only 1 recent poll (May 6/9 - after the news of the registration boost) by Fox that had Clinton up by 15, but according to Maddow last night, they put poll through 2 matrixes, and still came up with the same results. Makes you scratch your head.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
4. Ii can no longer listen to Maddow. She used to a favorite.
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:05 PM
May 2016

MSNBC used to be my port in the media storm. No longer. I just hate it that basketball is almost over. Nothing worth watching.

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
10. Stopped watching M$NBC after they canned Schultz
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:36 PM
May 2016

Then COMAST - now it's just another Corporate propaganda outlet. And MAddow and Tweety are the worst of them

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
14. huh?
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:41 PM
May 2016

Because they canned Schultz? He was a top rated show at the time. Just like Olberman and Donahue were when they got canned.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
18. No, I meant why Maddow and Matthews are still there. They converted.
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:46 PM
May 2016

Firing Donahue was a MSM crime. Forgot about him

Olberman. Got under everyone's skin from time to time. Made you think. A real journalist.

Ed Schultz...Mr. Nice Guy Union Supporter.

They lost their political edge...to keep the financial edge.

Oh well.

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
7. uh huh - and that means - California - maybe Clinton will approach with some modesty?
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:34 PM
May 2016

And agree, the pollsters are not helping anyone learn about issues or policies. Trump land race for the survivor!

 

aidbo

(2,328 posts)
15. Consider me the jerk that has to point out that the plural of matrix is matrices.
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:42 PM
May 2016
sorry, not sorry
 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
16. I am so proud of my home state. Early on he was losing Washington co, he ended up taking that by
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:45 PM
May 2016

5k. that's my county

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
11. Congratulations. Sincerely, I'm glad Bernie supporters can see a good result of their movement.
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:37 PM
May 2016

I know that in 2008, those late wins really helped to ease the pain people felt about Hillary's overall loss. Knowing that many people were touched made a big difference in being able to ultimately let go.

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
22. yes, it helped keep their dreams alive. I don't think acceptance this time around is going to be the
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:03 PM
May 2016

same. It will be moving on, and not forgotten - as happened in 2008 - but I don't think the next electoral candidate for the Sanders movement will be trying to hang onto Clinton's coat tails, like Clinton is hanging onto Obama's. No disrespect for Obama intended. Just that the path forward looks considerably different in a structural way - not necessarily in basic tenants. However, that could be incredibly different and exciting if Clinton listens and acts on the inevitable progressive trend of the Democratic party. I'm very excited for 2018 and 2020.

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