Has there been any comment yet from Hillary condemning Wendell Pierce for attacking Bernie supporter

[jillan]

I haven't heard anything? Did I miss it?

He was arrested for assault on following 3 Bernie supporters into their hotel room and beating up a young woman.

“I went to the door, and Maggie, and her boyfriend, and her cousin had just come in,” the source recounted. “Her cousin is leaning her back against the door and feet against the wall trying to keep the door closed, and the boyfriend is trying to get Mr. Pierce’s hands off his girlfriend … He was trying to force his way into the room, and had a handful of Maggie’s hair, and yanking on the hair, and swinging his arm around.”

Further the source says that when those inside the room relented from the tug of war over the door, Pierce allegedly charged into the door again and struck the victim, Maggie Elena Baca, on her head:

“He then charged the door, again,” the source said. “He then kept swinging, and hit [Maggie] a couple times, fairly hard, on the side of her head and on top of her head. He never got fully in the room. But it was then that Maggie’s boyfriend shouted, ‘I’m gonna get a knife.’”

http://gawker.com/eyewitness-says-the-wires-wendell-pierce-charged-into-h-1777076559

I understand that physical violence is not as bad as tweeting or booing but still would expect a statement from Hillary.

[arcane1]

1. Hillary doesn't care about assaulted women, and neither do her fans, apparently.

Did you hear some guy lifted a chair????

[okieinpain]

48. hillary does care

[link:|]

[timmymoff]

58. nope she catres about money only

and has little integrity. we saw this because she courted gop mega donors. She didn't go to them because she is in it for us. I guaranfuckintee it.

[okieinpain]

60. so where was all of this honesty in 2012. all i heard

was madam president

[QC]

2. Obviously, Hillary heartily approves of violence against women

and hopes to see more of it.

At least that's how things work according to hillbullylogic.

[Vinca]

3. Apparently, if it's a Hillary supporter, it is definitely okay.

Barely a peep on the channels now breathlessly covering "the chairs being thrown" (which, of course, weren't).

[zappaman]

4. She supports violence against women!

Duh.

[polly7]

7. Did she denounce it?

Supposedly Sanders is running a violent, deranged campaign because someone picked up a chair and put it down. What then is Clinton running?

[bahrbearian]

11. The Women of the Middle East Agree.

[Ferd Berfel]

29. that's a damn good point

[TheSarcastinator]

41. f*ck, that stings!

Excellent work.

[dchill]

5. Hillary will not say anything...

Until she's confronted on camera.

[oasis]

6. At which political function did these attacks occur?

[jillan]

9. Does it matter? Seriously? You are looking for an excuse to physically assault a young woman for

the only reason that she supports Bernie?

Violence against women is okay by the supporters of the only woman candidate.

Disgusting!!

[oasis]

12. Violence against anyone is inexcusable. My question remains.

Where was the political event?

[jillan]

13. What difference does it make WHERE it happened? He was arrested for attacking a Bernie supporter.

Are you looking for an excuse?!

[oasis]

19. No apologies or excuses necessary by Hillary or myself. Unfortunately

folks get into altercations everyday, about almost everything under the sun. This incident made the news because one of the subjects was semi famous. They just happened to get into a scuffle about politics.

I think you get it.

[MariaThinks]

28. it actually matters quite a bit. but i don't think you'll accept that.

I have adopted all the hate and hypocrisy directed at Hillary Clinton and feel it now towards Bernie. I can't stand to see him on tv - I just see a hypocritical man who won't release his tax returns, is creating suspicion in every race he loses (Hillary has over 3 million more votes than he does across the board), and who did not denounce his supporters loudly - saying that we are all it for the greater good.

If he does win the nomination, you are going to find a lot of democratic and independents will no longer support Bernie. last week I would have.

[jillan]

33. Violence against women is okay? Unbelievable. And you follow it with reasons why it is okay.

It was a woman that supported Bernie, the candidate that I cannot stand, so that it makes it okay.
And you post that as a woman!

I am also a woman, and your excuses for violence disgusts me.

[MariaThinks]

42. it was a stupid actor who is being charged. It was a private event in a democratic country

there were no organizers around. He was drunk. I denounce his violence.

[jillan]

46. He beat up a woman because she supported Bernie. And he was arrested for assault.

Enough said.

[MariaThinks]

49. as he should be arrested. It was a disgusting thing to do and no one should be

assaulted or threatened because of the candidate they are supporting.

[snowy owl]

53. I think you missed the point. Hillary's message should be non-violence just like Bernie's.

And he has said that many, many times. Has Hillary? Ever? And raising a chair is frustration and not violence. You have a double standard and frustration, shouting and booing are common at political events. I'm sure you know that. If you really intend even-handedness, you'll agree.

An awful lot of sloppy reporting and agreement with that sloppy reporting on this site.

[G_j]

10. assault is ok, as long as it's not at an official function

[oasis]

14. If a guy with a Bernie button hits someone in Walgreen's Parking lot

should Bernie have to apologize?

[jillan]

16. If it ended up in arrest for assault, then yes he should.

[oasis]

22. Bernie, Hillary and Trump can't spend half of their time

apologizing for events which occur outside of their realm of influence.

[G_j]

17. Didn't realize we were talking about apologies

but no.

[arcane1]

21. Team Clinton cares more about chairs than assaulted women n/t

[Ferd Berfel]

31. Now THAT'S Pragmatic!

[arcane1]

20. Move those goal posts!

Correct that Record!

[oasis]

30. That's my original question. What goal posts?

[arcane1]

38. Sorry, the "deliberately obtuse" ruse doesn't work on me.

Find a fool to fool.

[LadyHawkAZ]

39. ...

[oasis]

43. ...

[Joob]

8. Woman hit? nah let's focus on a possible thrown chair!

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. The media is avoiding it

[anotherproletariat]

18. Most people take actions by a single person (who is a volunteer) to be aberrant

while large groups of people are more likely to be a planned cause.

Do you expect the Pope to condemn every Catholic individual who commits a crime? Of course not, but we would expect him to condemn a group of Catholics, particularly if they are all wearing shirts and holding signs indicating their allegiance to the Catholic Church.

[jillan]

24. The only 2 candidates that have had supporters arrested for violence are Trump and Hillary.

If you want to make excuses, knock yourself out. Pun intended.

[QC]

25. Smash the bourgeoisie, Tovarisch!

[coco77]

23. Hillary surrogates say...

Bernie better watch his tone. These surrogates seem to believe that they can say and do anything. Do they really believe that people don't know who the Clintons are, we are in the 21st century.

If Bernie apologized, do the Hillary surrogates REALLY think we will just shut up and say " I'm with her".

Hillary surrogates WATCH YOUR TONE AND KEEP YOUR HANDS TO YOURSELF!!!

[QC]

26. Her campaign has been mostly tone policing.

Do they really think people like Trump are going to run away from being called sexist meanies?

Yeah, I bet that will work really well.

[coco77]

32. They think that they are...

The thought police. Some of these surrogates are so angry they could burst others show up and smile their asses off thinking we can't see what is behind those smiles.

They want Bernie to say I'm done. The also try to insult the intelligence of Bernie supporters we follow the numbers just like they do.


We also know that there are some Trump supporters,Trolls,and RepubliCONS on board who are stoking fires here on DU.

[QC]

52. I don't understand the anger.

It seems that the more things go their way, the more unhinged they become.

[coco77]

57. They want him to drop out and..

say he agrees with her around the edges policies when they know what Bernie stands for no one will believe it if he does.

They also think that the voters will just go along we all know there will be nothing they are proposing that the people on the ground can feel all talk while they get richer.

Most of the surrogates are angry because they are going to get paid along with their friends and families,like always.

[Scootaloo]

36. Well, huh.

A fellow who's on the board of Alliance For a healthier Generation, whose current campaign is based around "Girls Are Strong" is under arrest for attacking a woman. Maybe he figured that since girls are strong, they're fair game for getting the shit beat out of them?

But she was just a Bernie supporter. As Clinton supporters like Steinem and Albright told us, female Bernie supporters aren't really women. They're just dumb dick-chasers and gender-traitors.

[arcane1]

40. It's perfectly OK to assault a woman, depending on the location. Apparently.

These idiots actually think they are making sense

[jillan]

34. And they are making excuses why violence against women is okay!

Welcome to DU

[TheSarcastinator]

44. there are MANY Hillary fans here who tried to excuse it!

Go look at the original LBN post and you will find many examples of statements claiming the victim "deserved" it and "must have walked into Wendell's fist". It's amazing and disgusting.

[jillan]

50. Another Bernie supporter's voice silenced.

Look above. She was kicked off of DU.

[AzDar]

37. Nope. Clintonians are only faux-outraged at made-up stories of bottles and chairs...

[jillan]

47. Oh - there were bottles now? Wow, this lie keeps getting better and better.

[arcane1]

51. The chair suddenly multiplied into "chairs" as well.

When the little lie isn't working, make it big!

[snowy owl]

54. Stop parsing...take responsibility HRC commenters. Both candidates must endorse non-violence.

So far, only Bernie is being ask to do that. Doesn't matter where, when or what. Violence is not acceptable. Clinton needs to accept her responsibility to condemn violence just as Bernie has. And the outright lying about what happened at the convention is stunningly corrupt. And we should all be indicting DWS attack on a legitimate Democratic primary candidate. Her attack was abusive to Sanders and his supporters.

[NorthCarolina]

55. The media isn't talking about it, so it must not be newsworthy. -nt-

[Jitter65]

56. Wendell wasn't involve in an organized political event. He probably had too mcuh to drink and

was involved in argument with personal acquaintances. Hillary has no need to comment on his personal behavior.

[Bluenorthwest]

59. Making excuses for violence against women? The person he assualted was a stranger to him

not personal acquaintances. Being a public drunk is also not an excuse to engage in violence, in case you don't know that. Don't try it.

[ContinentalOp]

61. A few drunks in a hotel hallway at 3 am...

which results in a sexual hookup, oops sorry I mean "political discussion" gone wrong. vs. the behavior of thousands of official campaign delegates at a state convention?

I think we can all agree that you shouldn't get drunk and punch a woman you met in the hotel bar at 3 in the morning. But apparently Sanders supporters can't agree that you shouldn't scream at elected officials, call them bitches, and threaten to throw chairs at an official party caucus!

[oasis]

62. +1

[jillan]

63. Oh FFS! Shame on you! She was there with her boyfriend and cousin. What is with you Hillary fans

excusing physical assault of a young woman?

[ContinentalOp]

66. WHERE'S THE VIDEO?

That's the Sanders campaign go to defense, right?

Wendell Pierce is probably a total asshole. I haven't seen anybody defending his actions. Although I think it's fair to be a little skeptical of the story when the main eyewitness is the victim's cousin who was asleep at the time, and wasn't in the bar with the other four. I honestly think the whole thing is a little sad because the guy probably has a serious drinking problem if he's getting into fights with strangers that he meets in hotel bars at 3 am.

Do you really not see the difference between this situation and a mob of angry and organized Sanders supporters disrupting a Democratic state caucus and then later harassing the party members involved? One is an isolated event between individuals which we never would have heard about if one of them hadn't been a B list celebrity. The other is a clear pattern of bad behavior at actual political events and targeted at officials within (supposedly) the candidate's own party!

[PufPuf23]

64. The assault is ignored by Hillary Clinton et al.

The assault did not happen in their universe so why condemn?

[.99center]

65. Violent, famous, trendsetting, Hillary supporters aren't worth condemning.