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LonePirate

(13,419 posts)
Wed May 18, 2016, 04:27 PM May 2016

Will the networks declare Hillary the nominee when the polls close in NJ before the CA polls close?

Some networks and media outlets use the pledged + super delegate count, regardless of whether they should or should not use that method. For those that do, Hillary needs about 90 delegates to secure the nomination. CNN's site says she only needs 88.

There are 193 pledged delegates in Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico and New Jersey. It's possible Hillary will claim at least half of these delegates which would push her above 2,383 in the three hours or so between when the polls close in NJ and CA on June 7. Are those media outlets going to wait until CA finishes voting or will they pounce when the polls close in NJ?

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Will the networks declare Hillary the nominee when the polls close in NJ before the CA polls close? (Original Post) LonePirate May 2016 OP
ha ha ha of course oldandhappy May 2016 #1
I would guess so firebrand80 May 2016 #2
Will there be more people referring to her as the presumptive nominee? Garrett78 May 2016 #3
They did last night workinclasszero May 2016 #4
Are you kidding? MFM008 May 2016 #5
yes, they will, they already have larkrake May 2016 #6
SDs can change their mind... thesquanderer May 2016 #7
Well, of course they will. NV Whino May 2016 #8

firebrand80

(2,760 posts)
2. I would guess so
Wed May 18, 2016, 04:29 PM
May 2016

If they are using PDs + SDs, then declaring her the presumptive nominee would be logically consistent

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
3. Will there be more people referring to her as the presumptive nominee?
Wed May 18, 2016, 04:37 PM
May 2016

Probably. Just as people refer to Trump as the presumptive nominee.

In the scenario you proposed, I'm sure there will be pundits who point out that she's reached 2383 including superdelegates, while other pundits will point out that the superdelegates can't yet be counted.

There will be a general consensus that the one with a clear majority of pledged delegates will ultimately be nominated. But no network is going to declare anyone the nominee in the same way they declare someone the winner of a particular primary.

MFM008

(19,808 posts)
5. Are you kidding?
Wed May 18, 2016, 04:56 PM
May 2016

The networks waited on KY last night damn near till 2020.
Then she was only the "apparent" winner. It was close but wow.
They have to hold out or no one will watch their talking heads.

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
7. SDs can change their mind...
Wed May 18, 2016, 05:10 PM
May 2016

...so as long as there is even a mathematical possibility that Bernie can surpass Hillary in pledged delegates, they won't call the nomination for Hillary. They may say she has apparently gotten there, but they will leave enough wiggle room to leave it uncertain. First, because it would remain a fact that it wouldn't yet be certain; and second, they want people to stay tuned in. If the "drama" is on-going, it's good for their ratings.

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