Only Bernie Sanders CAN Beat Trump

been attacked by Republicans. Hell, Hillary has barely touched him compared to the 2008 primary battle.

Despite the animosity between the online supporters the actual mud slinging between the candidates and their surrogates has been pretty tame this time round. 92, 2000, 04 and 08 all had their fair share of inter candidate mendacity but this time round, not so much.

Wait till the General election and the Republicans bring up his time palling around with the Sandinistas; promoting child pornography or his campaign's ignoring campaign donation limits and accepting donations from foreign nationals.

...even if it means a loss, and a down-ticket bloodbath. Pretty stupid to nominate such an unpopular and polarizing candidate, but then the DNClinton isn't exactly the sharpest knives in the drawer...just the most crooked.

out? Do you not care? Do you not know? Please explain.

Because they think they are better than everybody else and arrogate to themselves the right to disregard everybody else's voice. I watch the rallies and if they are going to be the vanguards of the revolution they should hit the books and the gym, not necessarily in that order.


In that vein I have a question. If your interlocutor is so high and mighty why he is descending from Mount Olympus to argue with us plebeians?

You do realize that Indrpendants outnumber both Republicsns and Democrats, and dislike Trump AND Clinton? But hey, let's nominate a candidate with historically low favorability ratings. Just goes to show that just because party leadership is adept at being bought by corporate $, doesn't mean they're particularly smart.

So what do you think should happen now? Superdelegates nominate Bernie even though Hillary has more votes and delegates?

Need to stay on script.

Bernie's numbers (at present) are higher, but the only poll favoring Trump is Rasmussen (no surprise there).

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html

And Rasmussen is known for being terrible and having a signicant republican slant. Most of the other polls that are thrown around here as proof of Clintons weakness are random online only polls.

Not bad considering she is running against 2 people at once. All we have seen is a slight bump recently for Trump due to winning the nomination. Sanders is able to seem above the fray kind of candidate because no one is actively launching major attacks against him. Trump, even with getting a bump from winning the nomination and consolidating republican support is still only polling in the upper 30s. Once Clinton wins and starts to consolidate democratic support, she will shoot back up above her current 6ish point lead.

Neither one of them will beat Trump on their own, in my opinion. IF they do not find a way to join forces, a loss would cause a very serious split, perhaps permanently, in the Democratic Party. We must find the way to compromise.

It's mind-boggling that these people are out there in such large numbers.

I would say that at least 39% of Americans are morons

And will mean less than nothing to the supers. Bernie can't even convince the Democrats to vote for him in a primary.

Bernie can't beat Trump because isn't going to be the nominee.
Next question?

Sanders concedes Trump's framing that America use to be awesome and isn't anymore and needs to be made awesome again. Once we do that, the incumbent party can't win. Kasich or even Rubio could put away Clinton but would have trouble with Sanders; I don't think Sanders can beat Trump.