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Wed May 18, 2016, 06:10 PM

 

Only Bernie Sanders CAN Beat Trump

The latest polls show HRC can't beat Trump.

ONLY Bernie Sanders does.

By double digits....

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html

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Reply Only Bernie Sanders CAN Beat Trump (Original post)
Databuser May 2016 OP
Metric System May 2016 #1
RogueTrooper May 2016 #18
HooptieWagon May 2016 #2
YouDig May 2016 #4
DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #7
HooptieWagon May 2016 #10
YouDig May 2016 #13
bahrbearian May 2016 #14
madamesilverspurs May 2016 #3
Doctor Jack May 2016 #8
Doctor Jack May 2016 #5
kentuck May 2016 #6
oberliner May 2016 #9
Doctor Jack May 2016 #11
Demsrule86 May 2016 #12
calguy May 2016 #15
Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #16
Recursion May 2016 #17

Response to Databuser (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 06:13 PM

1. General election polls mean little this far out. Sanders' numbers are better mainly because he hasn'

been attacked by Republicans. Hell, Hillary has barely touched him compared to the 2008 primary battle.

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Response to Metric System (Reply #1)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:57 AM

18. This is very true

Despite the animosity between the online supporters the actual mud slinging between the candidates and their surrogates has been pretty tame this time round. 92, 2000, 04 and 08 all had their fair share of inter candidate mendacity but this time round, not so much.

Wait till the General election and the Republicans bring up his time palling around with the Sandinistas; promoting child pornography or his campaign's ignoring campaign donation limits and accepting donations from foreign nationals.

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Response to Databuser (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 06:15 PM

2. But it's HER turn...

 

...even if it means a loss, and a down-ticket bloodbath. Pretty stupid to nominate such an unpopular and polarizing candidate, but then the DNClinton isn't exactly the sharpest knives in the drawer...just the most crooked.

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #2)

Wed May 18, 2016, 06:18 PM

4. But people voted for her a lot more than Bernie. Why do Bernie people always leave that

out? Do you not care? Do you not know? Please explain.

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Response to YouDig (Reply #4)

Wed May 18, 2016, 06:23 PM

7. Because they think they are better than everybody else.

Because they think they are better than everybody else and arrogate to themselves the right to disregard everybody else's voice. I watch the rallies and if they are going to be the vanguards of the revolution they should hit the books and the gym, not necessarily in that order.


In that vein I have a question. If your interlocutor is so high and mighty why he is descending from Mount Olympus to argue with us plebeians?

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Response to YouDig (Reply #4)

Wed May 18, 2016, 06:30 PM

10. More people have voted for Trump than Clinton.

 

You do realize that Indrpendants outnumber both Republicsns and Democrats, and dislike Trump AND Clinton? But hey, let's nominate a candidate with historically low favorability ratings. Just goes to show that just because party leadership is adept at being bought by corporate $, doesn't mean they're particularly smart.

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #10)

Wed May 18, 2016, 06:33 PM

13. Not for the Democratic nominee, and I don't think that's true overall.

So what do you think should happen now? Superdelegates nominate Bernie even though Hillary has more votes and delegates?

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #10)

Wed May 18, 2016, 06:33 PM

14. They know all that, It's not on the Script that they are given.

Need to stay on script.

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Response to Databuser (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 06:16 PM

3. Actually, latest polls show Hillary also beats Trump.

Bernie's numbers (at present) are higher, but the only poll favoring Trump is Rasmussen (no surprise there).

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html

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Response to madamesilverspurs (Reply #3)

Wed May 18, 2016, 06:24 PM

8. An old Rasmussen poll at that

And Rasmussen is known for being terrible and having a signicant republican slant. Most of the other polls that are thrown around here as proof of Clintons weakness are random online only polls.

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Response to Databuser (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 06:20 PM

5. Clinton is up by quite a bit

Not bad considering she is running against 2 people at once. All we have seen is a slight bump recently for Trump due to winning the nomination. Sanders is able to seem above the fray kind of candidate because no one is actively launching major attacks against him. Trump, even with getting a bump from winning the nomination and consolidating republican support is still only polling in the upper 30s. Once Clinton wins and starts to consolidate democratic support, she will shoot back up above her current 6ish point lead.

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Response to Databuser (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 06:21 PM

6. It will take both to beat Trump.

Neither one of them will beat Trump on their own, in my opinion. IF they do not find a way to join forces, a loss would cause a very serious split, perhaps permanently, in the Democratic Party. We must find the way to compromise.

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Response to Databuser (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 06:30 PM

9. How can anyone seriously consider voting for Trump?

 

It's mind-boggling that these people are out there in such large numbers.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #9)

Wed May 18, 2016, 06:32 PM

11. He is mostly stuck at around 39%

I would say that at least 39% of Americans are morons

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Response to Databuser (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 06:33 PM

12. Meaningless

And will mean less than nothing to the supers. Bernie can't even convince the Democrats to vote for him in a primary.

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Response to Databuser (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 06:42 PM

15. Give it up

Bernie can't beat Trump because isn't going to be the nominee.
Next question?

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Response to Databuser (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:50 AM

16. Democrats are choosing the weaker candidate. LOL

 

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Response to Databuser (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:51 AM

17. I see Sanders as stronger against the entire Republican field *except* Trump

Sanders concedes Trump's framing that America use to be awesome and isn't anymore and needs to be made awesome again. Once we do that, the incumbent party can't win. Kasich or even Rubio could put away Clinton but would have trouble with Sanders; I don't think Sanders can beat Trump.

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