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Zen Democrat

(5,901 posts)
Wed May 18, 2016, 06:54 PM May 2016

There is one simple truth in this election. This is the year of the outsiders.

An outsider is destined to win this 2016 election. In the running are two outsiders, Trump and Sanders, and one big insider, Hillary Clinton. An insider is doomed to lose this year.

So, if you don't want Donald Trump to be your president, the only option is Bernie Sanders, who would beat him badly according to the latest polls.

Therefore, if Hillary loses this election to Trump, there's no one to blame but the forces in the Democratic Party who shut out Sanders with lies, innuendo, and theft of votes. Because the people are crazy about him. Watch his rallies, or rather, listen to his rallies. There's an electricity and excitement that is bereft of Hillary Clinton. She has way too much baggage over 25 years to win the general. When all of the Republicans, the great majority of the Independents, and half of the Democrats don't like her, you think she has a chance to win?

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There is one simple truth in this election. This is the year of the outsiders. (Original Post) Zen Democrat May 2016 OP
another huge myth. bernie sanders is NOT an outsider. he has lived off the taxpayers nearly all his msongs May 2016 #1
Only 45 years of it scscholar May 2016 #2
Yup, career politician. Hillary is both an insider and outsider. Hortensis May 2016 #11
Trump is not only NOT an outsider, he OWNS the very establishment some think he is outside of Actor May 2016 #3
Hey folks, it's about PERCEPTIONS. Zen Democrat May 2016 #5
This is a right wing meme. Portraying these people this way. Actor May 2016 #6
Correct. 840high May 2016 #10
Not quite Proud Public Servant May 2016 #4
One simple truth. yallerdawg May 2016 #7
Bernie has to beat Hillary for him to run against Trump..She's winning... asuhornets May 2016 #8
So outside they forget to go vote. seabeyond May 2016 #9

msongs

(67,361 posts)
1. another huge myth. bernie sanders is NOT an outsider. he has lived off the taxpayers nearly all his
Wed May 18, 2016, 06:57 PM
May 2016

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. Yup, career politician. Hillary is both an insider and outsider.
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:13 PM
May 2016

An outsider as a woman who could never be a member of any old boys' club, who has always been far too modest in background to belong with the old wealthy societies, and as a person who never joined the DC insiders' club (it's unclear if they would have let her in, but she didn't like that inimical group either).

And of course an insider in her own unique way because she has been so talented, so tough, so powerful and so connected for so long that every effort of the insiders' clubs to destroy her, or at least run her off, have failed.

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Actor

(626 posts)
3. Trump is not only NOT an outsider, he OWNS the very establishment some think he is outside of
Wed May 18, 2016, 07:03 PM
May 2016

His ownership came from being a corrupt person, of course.

Zen Democrat

(5,901 posts)
5. Hey folks, it's about PERCEPTIONS.
Wed May 18, 2016, 07:14 PM
May 2016

The DNC certainly treats Bernie as an outsider. And he's brand new to the American public as a whole.

If you don't think Trump is already a branded outsider, please pay attention.

Hillary is the proclaimed insider of insiders. The Clinton Machine. The Establishment. Bernie is none of those things.

He's our only hope, and I'm praying for California!

Proud Public Servant

(2,097 posts)
4. Not quite
Wed May 18, 2016, 07:14 PM
May 2016

It's been the year of the insurgency, to be sure. But in both parties, the insiders have received more votes than the outsiders. The difference is that, in the GOP, that vote got split among many insiders, while in are party they all went to Hillary. Had Hillary not run, and (let's say) Biden, Tim Kaine, Kirstin Gillibrand, and O'Malley split the Establishment vote, Bernie might have prevailed in the same way as Trump did.

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