2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThere is one simple truth in this election. This is the year of the outsiders.
An outsider is destined to win this 2016 election. In the running are two outsiders, Trump and Sanders, and one big insider, Hillary Clinton. An insider is doomed to lose this year.
So, if you don't want Donald Trump to be your president, the only option is Bernie Sanders, who would beat him badly according to the latest polls.
Therefore, if Hillary loses this election to Trump, there's no one to blame but the forces in the Democratic Party who shut out Sanders with lies, innuendo, and theft of votes. Because the people are crazy about him. Watch his rallies, or rather, listen to his rallies. There's an electricity and excitement that is bereft of Hillary Clinton. She has way too much baggage over 25 years to win the general. When all of the Republicans, the great majority of the Independents, and half of the Democrats don't like her, you think she has a chance to win?
msongs
(67,361 posts)life
scscholar
(2,902 posts)It's not like it is all.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)An outsider as a woman who could never be a member of any old boys' club, who has always been far too modest in background to belong with the old wealthy societies, and as a person who never joined the DC insiders' club (it's unclear if they would have let her in, but she didn't like that inimical group either).
And of course an insider in her own unique way because she has been so talented, so tough, so powerful and so connected for so long that every effort of the insiders' clubs to destroy her, or at least run her off, have failed.
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Actor
(626 posts)His ownership came from being a corrupt person, of course.
Zen Democrat
(5,901 posts)The DNC certainly treats Bernie as an outsider. And he's brand new to the American public as a whole.
If you don't think Trump is already a branded outsider, please pay attention.
Hillary is the proclaimed insider of insiders. The Clinton Machine. The Establishment. Bernie is none of those things.
He's our only hope, and I'm praying for California!
Actor
(626 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)Proud Public Servant
(2,097 posts)It's been the year of the insurgency, to be sure. But in both parties, the insiders have received more votes than the outsiders. The difference is that, in the GOP, that vote got split among many insiders, while in are party they all went to Hillary. Had Hillary not run, and (let's say) Biden, Tim Kaine, Kirstin Gillibrand, and O'Malley split the Establishment vote, Bernie might have prevailed in the same way as Trump did.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Real votes!
Hillary 12,989,134.
Trump 11,165,486.
Bernie 9,957,889.
Or imaginary votes?