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CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
Wed May 18, 2016, 07:33 PM May 2016

Get control, Senator Sanders, or get out - Newsweek

Violence. Death threats. Vile, misogynistic names screamed at women. Rage. Hatred. Menacing, anonymous phone calls to homes and offices. Public officials whisked offstage by security agents frightened of the growing mob. None of this has any place in a political campaign. And the candidate who has been tolerating this obscene behavior among his supporters is showing himself to be unfit for office.

So, Senator Sanders, either get control of what is becoming your increasingly unhinged cult or get out of the race. Whatever respect sane liberals had for you is rapidly dwindling, and the damage being inflicted on your reputation may be unfixable. If you can’t even manage the vicious thugs who act in your name, you can’t be trusted to run a convenience store, much less the country.

When Bernie Sanders launched his presidential campaign, he seemed to be the kind of candidate who would inspire voters from the liberal blocs of the Democratic Party, push the party leftward and influence the future direction of politics—either as the nominee or as a force for change. But Sanders has increasingly signaled that he is in this race for Sanders, and day after day shows himself to be a whining crybaby with little interest in a broader movement. His vicious—and often ridiculous—attacks on the party whenever he doesn’t win a contest have inspired a level of ignorant fanaticism among a large swath of his supporters that is becoming more akin to what might be seen at an out-of-control rally for Donald Trump. Signs are emerging that the Sanders campaign is transmogrifying into the type of movement through which tyrants are born.

The ugly was on display at the recent state convention of the Nevada Democratic Party, where Hillary Clinton won more delegates than Sanders. Now, this should hardly have been a surprise to anyone except the Sandernistas, whose certainty in their righteousness has overwhelmed any commitment they may have ever had to democracy. Sanders lost the Nevada caucuses in February by more than 5%. A rational person who cared about the will of the people would presume that Clinton would emerge from the state with the most delegates. But Sanders supporters were outraged—outraged!—that the person with the largest number of votes ended up with the largest share of delegates.

....(Read the entire article - it totally discredits the notion that Sanders supporters had a right to be angry.)

http://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-get-control-get-out-race-461195

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Get control, Senator Sanders, or get out - Newsweek (Original Post) CajunBlazer May 2016 OP
Well, Newsweek IS at least a better source of brainless slams than Tomatobubble Scootaloo May 2016 #1
Actually, Newsweek is now owned by a weird fundamentalist cult QC May 2016 #7
I didn't know that. Freaky. Scootaloo May 2016 #8
True, but it's not much of an honor either way. QC May 2016 #10
If you can't discredit the article, try to discredit the source CajunBlazer May 2016 #25
Hooboy felix_numinous May 2016 #16
Well, Newsweek's fans around here are doing their best QC May 2016 #18
There's a joke in here somewhere felix_numinous May 2016 #21
That's pretty damn weird. The Republicans have their Moonie paper QC May 2016 #24
I wanted to try "Ark of the DUH-venant"... Scootaloo May 2016 #26
LOL felix_numinous May 2016 #37
Interesting. This Rev. Moon-like guy, David Jang, must have a lot of his moolah... Peace Patriot May 2016 #54
I think Neil deGrasse Tyson should sue for for defaming his image CajunBlazer May 2016 #11
What someone who posts from a Hitler-defending rag "thinks" is of little import to me, CB. Scootaloo May 2016 #13
Your like a broken record - one meme for every post you can adequately answer CajunBlazer May 2016 #15
Not sure you understand what a "meme" is. Scootaloo May 2016 #22
That's because you are apparently clueless as to how to respond directly CajunBlazer May 2016 #30
Like I said, I don't hold you in enough regard to bother engaging you more than stuff like this Scootaloo May 2016 #35
No, ;you just alert on people you can't handle CajunBlazer May 2016 #41
Nice try Scootaloo CajunBlazer May 2016 #39
Ain't mine. I prefer to let someone bury themselves Scootaloo May 2016 #42
Right CajunBlazer May 2016 #43
I try to be. Thanks for noticing! Scootaloo May 2016 #44
You claim I am too lowly to engage... CajunBlazer May 2016 #45
I don't consider one-liners to be "engagement." Scootaloo May 2016 #46
Fuck them. Trumpeters rampage across the country but Bernie needs Ed Suspicious May 2016 #2
Your board name implies you never heard a conspiricy thery you didn't believe CajunBlazer May 2016 #6
You sound like a real coincidence theorist. Ed Suspicious May 2016 #12
Every coincidence is not a conspiricy CajunBlazer May 2016 #17
Good. Ed Suspicious May 2016 #36
AHA! OBVIOUSLY Newsweek is (another) TOOL of the ANTI-CHRIST (Hillary Clinton - for the 'clueless') Bill USA May 2016 #3
Actually it might be run by the Messiah. Check QC's post. Scootaloo May 2016 #9
Sanders dishonors the party. I am ashamed he is on our ticket. Hortensis May 2016 #4
Not nearly as ashamed as some hillary supporters with the nerve to call themselves liberal. timmymoff May 2016 #19
I am a proud strong liberal and always have been. Hortensis May 2016 #20
If you vote Hillary timmymoff May 2016 #23
Disgusting. Bernie is toxic and needs to get out. Hortensis May 2016 #27
actually it is the seldom right wing of the democratic party timmymoff May 2016 #32
Not disgusting, accurate. Scootaloo May 2016 #33
Unless you define Bernie Sanders as the center, that "center right" claim is nonsense. Lord Magus May 2016 #47
Good work! QC May 2016 #5
Thank goodness! Raastan May 2016 #14
You can't even spell your portmanteau correctly Scootaloo May 2016 #28
I think I made my point and achieved my goal regardless. :) Raastan May 2016 #49
Well, you made a point. Dunno if it's the one you set out for though Scootaloo May 2016 #50
Well let's see Raastan May 2016 #51
The ugly certainly was on display. notadmblnd May 2016 #29
GET CONTROL, SENATOR SANDERS, OR GET OUT. I like those blunt terms .. maybe Sen sanders Cha May 2016 #31
Can't wait for Bernie's GBCW speech... SidDithers May 2016 #34
What a ridiculous, hyperbolic screed. Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #38
I'm glad you didn't enjoyed the article CajunBlazer May 2016 #40
Thank you for posting this article, CajunBlazer. Spot on lunamagica May 2016 #48
My goodness a RW news source gets the facts, already shot down, nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #52
LOLOL! WOW! The M$M sure must be worried if they're trying THIS hard! vintx May 2016 #53
I'm pretty sure those are Trump people, anyone can buy a bernie shirt larkrake May 2016 #55
Don't even have to read all the post GulfCoast66 May 2016 #56
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
8. I didn't know that. Freaky.
Reply to QC (Reply #7)
Wed May 18, 2016, 07:46 PM
May 2016

Still, I'd rate "pseudo-moonie cultist" at least a few steps above whatever Hitler apologist runs tomatobubble

QC

(26,371 posts)
10. True, but it's not much of an honor either way.
Wed May 18, 2016, 07:48 PM
May 2016

And it makes sense that a "news" outlet run by a right wing personality cult would find such great favor with the people who are posting this article all over the place.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
25. If you can't discredit the article, try to discredit the source
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:35 PM
May 2016

Sounds like instructions right out of a communist or Nazi propaganda manual.

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
16. Hooboy
Reply to QC (Reply #7)
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:24 PM
May 2016

vital snippet from Mother Jones:

Jang sees Community-affiliated media organizations, including IBT, as an essential part of his mission to build the kingdom of God on Earth. He has said that media companies affiliated with the Community are part of a new Noah's ark designed to save the world from a biblical flood of information

http://www.motherjones.com/media/2014/03/newsweek-ibt-olivet-david-jang

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
21. There's a joke in here somewhere
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:32 PM
May 2016

about Newsweek trying to 'stem the Biblical flood of information' but I think it just writes itself.

QC

(26,371 posts)
24. That's pretty damn weird. The Republicans have their Moonie paper
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:34 PM
May 2016

and now our fanatics have their own Second Coming Christ publication.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
54. Interesting. This Rev. Moon-like guy, David Jang, must have a lot of his moolah...
Reply to QC (Reply #7)
Tue May 24, 2016, 10:27 PM
May 2016

...invested in the Wall Street candidate's future decisions. The vitriol of the article is notable. They can barely contain themselves.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
11. I think Neil deGrasse Tyson should sue for for defaming his image
Wed May 18, 2016, 07:50 PM
May 2016

He would not claim a zealot like you.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
22. Not sure you understand what a "meme" is.
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:33 PM
May 2016

But so long as you keep posting here, I will keep reminding people that you used a Hitler-defending anti-Jewish hate site to attack and smear a Jewish man running for president.

I would also like to take the moment and give a shout-out to all the wonderful people who support using an antisemitic hate site on DU:


Not a lot of surprises in that list, to be quite honest.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
30. That's because you are apparently clueless as to how to respond directly
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:38 PM
May 2016

It's really not fair sparing with you like this - it's kind of like engaging in an ass kicking contest with a one legged man. Not fair at all.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
39. Nice try Scootaloo
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:56 PM
May 2016

Thin skinned too I see:

> I think Neil deGrasse Tyson should sue for for defaming his image
> http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1998584
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> REASON FOR ALERT
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> This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
>
> ALERTER'S COMMENTS
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> Personal attack.
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> You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed May 18, 2016, 05:41 PM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.
>
> Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
> Explanation: No explanation given
> Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
> Explanation: Agree. This is clearly a personal attack. Hide.
> Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
> Explanation: No explanation given
> Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
> Explanation: No explanation given
> Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
> Explanation: No explanation given
> Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
> Explanation: No explanation given
> Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
> Explanation: Not personal attack. Most of the posts on GDP are made by "zealots." I do wish, though, the Tyson were not used for political posts.
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CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
45. You claim I am too lowly to engage...
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:55 PM
May 2016

...and yet are you have replied to each and every one of my posts just like a little robot. It seems I am too lowly to engage only when you can't think of anything cute to write. Then and only then do your resort to your "you quoted a right wing website" meme. It's been fun kicking your butt.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
2. Fuck them. Trumpeters rampage across the country but Bernie needs
Wed May 18, 2016, 07:36 PM
May 2016

to get out? The bullshit chair story is supposed to be Bernie's Dean scream. I really hope he tells them to shove it.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
17. Every coincidence is not a conspiricy
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:24 PM
May 2016

Every conspiracy is not a coincidence

Your board name implies you can't tell the two apart.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. Sanders dishonors the party. I am ashamed he is on our ticket.
Wed May 18, 2016, 07:40 PM
May 2016
His vicious—and often ridiculous—attacks on the party whenever he doesn’t win a contest have inspired a level of ignorant fanaticism among a large swath of his supporters that is becoming more akin to what might be seen at an out-of-control rally for Donald Trump.


I am done with Sanders and his insults of me as a Democrat. Let's go straight to the short form: Get out.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. I am a proud strong liberal and always have been.
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:31 PM
May 2016

What a person who would say something that hostile and ignorant might be, I couldn't say, but it's nothing I would be proud of.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
23. If you vote Hillary
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:34 PM
May 2016

you support center right policies. Like it or not, you support regime change, and fracking, keystone and TPP. The democrats need less seldom right wingers. Their ilk are what destroyed the party and it's platform.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. Disgusting. Bernie is toxic and needs to get out.
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:37 PM
May 2016

WASHINGON POST -- We’ve reached another pivot point in the race. The donnybrook at the convention has been a wake-up call for many liberal commentators, who have viewed Bernie positively because of his success at pulling Hillary to the left. But a new mindset has begun to take hold: If Trump becomes president, Sanders will deserve a big share of the blame. Take this sampling of commentary that posted overnight:

The New Republic’s Dana Houle: “It is Sanders’s prerogative to remain in the race. But exercising that prerogative makes it easier for mega-wealthy conservatives to spend hundreds of millions of dollars to lethally bludgeon both Clinton’s candidacy and the progressive agenda to which Sanders has devoted his career. This is not solely about combating the grave threat of a Trump presidency. It is also about the potential of a Democratic landslide and the progressive achievements that could follow, which is an opportunity too rare and precious to squander.… The best way for Sanders to advance the progressive cause is to end his campaign and unabashedly ask his supporters to join him in helping to elect Clinton.”

Talking Points Memo’s Josh Marshall: “Sanders is telling his supporters that he can still win, which he can't. He's suggesting that the win is being stolen by a corrupt establishment, an impression which will be validated when his phony prediction turns out not to be true. Lying like this sets you up for stuff like happened over the weekend in Nevada.”

Mother Jones’s Kevin Drum: “Before this campaign, [Sanders] was a gadfly, he was a critic of the system, and he was a man of strong principles. He still is, but he's also obviously very, very bitter…. By all objective measures he did way better than anyone expected and had far more influence than anyone thought he would, and he should feel good about that. Instead, he seems more angry and resentful with every passing day.”

The Atlantic’s Clare Foran: “As the Sanders campaign presses forward, it must carefully consider whether the senator’s ambition for a political revolution is a goal best achieved by actively stoking the anger of his supporters — and, in a sense, encouraging them to tear it all down.”

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
32. actually it is the seldom right wing of the democratic party
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:39 PM
May 2016

Hillary supporters we find disgusting and well right wing.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
33. Not disgusting, accurate.
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:41 PM
May 2016

She does indeed support regime change, fracking, the TPP, and Keystone XL. He left out her support for a no-fly zone in Syria, though.

Raastan

(266 posts)
14. Thank goodness!
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:04 PM
May 2016

I have been waiting for something like this for a long time!!
Some straight talk about the Bernshaviks that will reach a larger mass of the American people!
V.I. Sanders needs to quit this vitriol before he and his Bernshaviks ruin our democracy!!

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
28. You can't even spell your portmanteau correctly
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:37 PM
May 2016

It should be "Bernsheviks." If you're going to try to insult us, at least do it well.

Raastan

(266 posts)
51. Well let's see
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:55 PM
May 2016

The fact that you know enough history to know what I am talking about is enough for me. The fact that so many blind are being led by the blind Bernie is what I am hoping to point out. Bernie's "revolution" is no longer in his control, just like so many other failed revolutions in human history, and is now becoming an angry mob.

Cha

(297,205 posts)
31. GET CONTROL, SENATOR SANDERS, OR GET OUT. I like those blunt terms .. maybe Sen sanders
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:38 PM
May 2016

can Understand that?!

And, forget his f******* stump speech for 5 minutes?!

Look @ all the publicity this is getting that Hillary won more delegates than BS.. Nice.

I wonder if "sanders fans were outraged".. because BS told them they were going to win Nevada? They believed him? He was wrong again, fans.

"the dress rehearsal" that went poorly. ..
Wait a sec.. omg. Robera Lange has endorsed sanders?!!! Is she sorry now?! “.. humanity lovers” who seem to hate everyone but themselves and their idol."

“Praying to god someone shoots you in the FACE and blows your democracy-stealing head off!” (Only in the delusions of Sanders-land could democracy be stolen when the winner of the popular vote was winning.)"

All in the name of burnie sanders.. hope he's proud.

Meanwhile, Sanders reacts with mealy-mouthed mumbles, saying he doesn’t support violence while doing literally nothing about it and claiming that—contrary to the statements of witnesses, reporters and video recordings—his violent supporters aren’t violent. Trump would be proud of the disingenuous delusions vomited up by the candidate.

Yeah, your "mealy mouthness" not going over well, burnie.

"Sanders himself has been willing to stoke the flames. He has said that if Clinton wins the nomination and wants his supporters, she has to court them herself by focusing on his issues while abandoning the “establishment.” After all, the loser always gets to dictate the agenda of the winner. (Usually, the candidate who doesn’t win the nomination vigorously endorses the party’s winner, but this is yet another example of Sanders being in it for himself.)"

Yeah sorry, burnie.. you Don't get to Dictate.

Why is Sanders continuing to bilk his delusional supporters of money, despite the impossibility of his winning the nomination, rather than directing it to candidates who support his ideals? Why do so many of his supporters scream “fraud!” when he loses a state and demand changes to the rules that they proclaim would have led him to victory?

http://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-get-control-get-out-race-461195

Wow! Mahalo, Cajon.. that was a perfect description by Kurt Eichenwald of what's been going on with Sen sanders and his fans.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
34. Can't wait for Bernie's GBCW speech...
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:42 PM
May 2016

The wailing and gnashing of teeth from the bros is gonna be epic.

Sid

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
38. What a ridiculous, hyperbolic screed.
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:04 PM
May 2016

That article writer need some help. That's a guy with a very ugly, fact-free mind. It's not even real enough to bother being insulted over.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
40. I'm glad you didn't enjoyed the article
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:05 PM
May 2016
"That article writer need some help. That's a guy with a very ugly, fact-free mind. It's not even real enough to bother being insulted over."

I like a guy when he is specific about why he dislikes an article. You can't accuse this guy of writing a couple of sentences he could post for every article he doesn't like. No, siree, this guy attacks the article at its core.

However, I'm betting he didn't read it all or we would have on the receiving end of more than two sentences.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
56. Don't even have to read all the post
Tue May 24, 2016, 11:14 PM
May 2016

I know what's coming. Under the bus with you Newsweek.

I look forward to the day after Bernie endorses Clinton and it is under the bus with him.

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