2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumGet control, Senator Sanders, or get out - Newsweek
Violence. Death threats. Vile, misogynistic names screamed at women. Rage. Hatred. Menacing, anonymous phone calls to homes and offices. Public officials whisked offstage by security agents frightened of the growing mob. None of this has any place in a political campaign. And the candidate who has been tolerating this obscene behavior among his supporters is showing himself to be unfit for office.
So, Senator Sanders, either get control of what is becoming your increasingly unhinged cult or get out of the race. Whatever respect sane liberals had for you is rapidly dwindling, and the damage being inflicted on your reputation may be unfixable. If you cant even manage the vicious thugs who act in your name, you cant be trusted to run a convenience store, much less the country.
When Bernie Sanders launched his presidential campaign, he seemed to be the kind of candidate who would inspire voters from the liberal blocs of the Democratic Party, push the party leftward and influence the future direction of politicseither as the nominee or as a force for change. But Sanders has increasingly signaled that he is in this race for Sanders, and day after day shows himself to be a whining crybaby with little interest in a broader movement. His viciousand often ridiculousattacks on the party whenever he doesnt win a contest have inspired a level of ignorant fanaticism among a large swath of his supporters that is becoming more akin to what might be seen at an out-of-control rally for Donald Trump. Signs are emerging that the Sanders campaign is transmogrifying into the type of movement through which tyrants are born.
The ugly was on display at the recent state convention of the Nevada Democratic Party, where Hillary Clinton won more delegates than Sanders. Now, this should hardly have been a surprise to anyone except the Sandernistas, whose certainty in their righteousness has overwhelmed any commitment they may have ever had to democracy. Sanders lost the Nevada caucuses in February by more than 5%. A rational person who cared about the will of the people would presume that Clinton would emerge from the state with the most delegates. But Sanders supporters were outragedoutraged!that the person with the largest number of votes ended up with the largest share of delegates.
....(Read the entire article - it totally discredits the notion that Sanders supporters had a right to be angry.)
http://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-get-control-get-out-race-461195
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)QC
(26,371 posts)whose leader calls himself "Second Coming Christ."
http://www.motherjones.com/media/2014/03/newsweek-ibt-olivet-david-jang
http://observer.com/2013/08/moonies-messiahs-and-media-who-really-owns-newsweek/
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Still, I'd rate "pseudo-moonie cultist" at least a few steps above whatever Hitler apologist runs tomatobubble
QC
(26,371 posts)And it makes sense that a "news" outlet run by a right wing personality cult would find such great favor with the people who are posting this article all over the place.
CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)Sounds like instructions right out of a communist or Nazi propaganda manual.
vital snippet from Mother Jones:
Jang sees Community-affiliated media organizations, including IBT, as an essential part of his mission to build the kingdom of God on Earth. He has said that media companies affiliated with the Community are part of a new Noah's ark designed to save the world from a biblical flood of information
http://www.motherjones.com/media/2014/03/newsweek-ibt-olivet-david-jang
QC
(26,371 posts)to protect us all from information.
felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)about Newsweek trying to 'stem the Biblical flood of information' but I think it just writes itself.
QC
(26,371 posts)and now our fanatics have their own Second Coming Christ publication.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)But then I remembered that's the wrong Ark
felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)I am trying to laugh today
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)...invested in the Wall Street candidate's future decisions. The vitriol of the article is notable. They can barely contain themselves.
CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)He would not claim a zealot like you.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)Sad!
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)But so long as you keep posting here, I will keep reminding people that you used a Hitler-defending anti-Jewish hate site to attack and smear a Jewish man running for president.
I would also like to take the moment and give a shout-out to all the wonderful people who support using an antisemitic hate site on DU:
Not a lot of surprises in that list, to be quite honest.
CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)It's really not fair sparing with you like this - it's kind of like engaging in an ass kicking contest with a one legged man. Not fair at all.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)Thin skinned too I see:
> I think Neil deGrasse Tyson should sue for for defaming his image
> http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1998584
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> REASON FOR ALERT
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> This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
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> ALERTER'S COMMENTS
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> Personal attack.
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> You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed May 18, 2016, 05:41 PM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.
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> Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
> Explanation: No explanation given
> Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
> Explanation: Agree. This is clearly a personal attack. Hide.
> Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
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> Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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> Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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> Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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> Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
> Explanation: Not personal attack. Most of the posts on GDP are made by "zealots." I do wish, though, the Tyson were not used for political posts.
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Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)and your such an honest person too.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)...and yet are you have replied to each and every one of my posts just like a little robot. It seems I am too lowly to engage only when you can't think of anything cute to write. Then and only then do your resort to your "you quoted a right wing website" meme. It's been fun kicking your butt.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)to get out? The bullshit chair story is supposed to be Bernie's Dean scream. I really hope he tells them to shove it.
CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)Is that true?
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)Every conspiracy is not a coincidence
Your board name implies you can't tell the two apart.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Bill USA
(6,436 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)I am done with Sanders and his insults of me as a Democrat. Let's go straight to the short form: Get out.
timmymoff
(1,947 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)What a person who would say something that hostile and ignorant might be, I couldn't say, but it's nothing I would be proud of.
timmymoff
(1,947 posts)you support center right policies. Like it or not, you support regime change, and fracking, keystone and TPP. The democrats need less seldom right wingers. Their ilk are what destroyed the party and it's platform.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)WASHINGON POST -- Weve reached another pivot point in the race. The donnybrook at the convention has been a wake-up call for many liberal commentators, who have viewed Bernie positively because of his success at pulling Hillary to the left. But a new mindset has begun to take hold: If Trump becomes president, Sanders will deserve a big share of the blame. Take this sampling of commentary that posted overnight:
The New Republics Dana Houle: It is Sanderss prerogative to remain in the race. But exercising that prerogative makes it easier for mega-wealthy conservatives to spend hundreds of millions of dollars to lethally bludgeon both Clintons candidacy and the progressive agenda to which Sanders has devoted his career. This is not solely about combating the grave threat of a Trump presidency. It is also about the potential of a Democratic landslide and the progressive achievements that could follow, which is an opportunity too rare and precious to squander.
The best way for Sanders to advance the progressive cause is to end his campaign and unabashedly ask his supporters to join him in helping to elect Clinton.
Talking Points Memos Josh Marshall: Sanders is telling his supporters that he can still win, which he can't. He's suggesting that the win is being stolen by a corrupt establishment, an impression which will be validated when his phony prediction turns out not to be true. Lying like this sets you up for stuff like happened over the weekend in Nevada.
Mother Joness Kevin Drum: Before this campaign, [Sanders] was a gadfly, he was a critic of the system, and he was a man of strong principles. He still is, but he's also obviously very, very bitter
. By all objective measures he did way better than anyone expected and had far more influence than anyone thought he would, and he should feel good about that. Instead, he seems more angry and resentful with every passing day.
The Atlantics Clare Foran: As the Sanders campaign presses forward, it must carefully consider whether the senators ambition for a political revolution is a goal best achieved by actively stoking the anger of his supporters and, in a sense, encouraging them to tear it all down.
timmymoff
(1,947 posts)Hillary supporters we find disgusting and well right wing.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)She does indeed support regime change, fracking, the TPP, and Keystone XL. He left out her support for a no-fly zone in Syria, though.
Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)QC
(26,371 posts)Raastan
(266 posts)I have been waiting for something like this for a long time!!
Some straight talk about the Bernshaviks that will reach a larger mass of the American people!
V.I. Sanders needs to quit this vitriol before he and his Bernshaviks ruin our democracy!!
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)It should be "Bernsheviks." If you're going to try to insult us, at least do it well.
Raastan
(266 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Raastan
(266 posts)The fact that you know enough history to know what I am talking about is enough for me. The fact that so many blind are being led by the blind Bernie is what I am hoping to point out. Bernie's "revolution" is no longer in his control, just like so many other failed revolutions in human history, and is now becoming an angry mob.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)Too bad Hilly supporters have no class and choose to play dirty.
Cha
(297,205 posts)can Understand that?!
And, forget his f******* stump speech for 5 minutes?!
Look @ all the publicity this is getting that Hillary won more delegates than BS.. Nice.
I wonder if "sanders fans were outraged".. because BS told them they were going to win Nevada? They believed him? He was wrong again, fans.
"the dress rehearsal" that went poorly. ..
Wait a sec.. omg. Robera Lange has endorsed sanders?!!! Is she sorry now?! .. humanity lovers who seem to hate everyone but themselves and their idol."
Praying to god someone shoots you in the FACE and blows your democracy-stealing head off! (Only in the delusions of Sanders-land could democracy be stolen when the winner of the popular vote was winning.)"
All in the name of burnie sanders.. hope he's proud.
Yeah, your "mealy mouthness" not going over well, burnie.
"Sanders himself has been willing to stoke the flames. He has said that if Clinton wins the nomination and wants his supporters, she has to court them herself by focusing on his issues while abandoning the establishment. After all, the loser always gets to dictate the agenda of the winner. (Usually, the candidate who doesnt win the nomination vigorously endorses the partys winner, but this is yet another example of Sanders being in it for himself.)"
Yeah sorry, burnie.. you Don't get to Dictate.
http://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-get-control-get-out-race-461195
Wow! Mahalo, Cajon.. that was a perfect description by Kurt Eichenwald of what's been going on with Sen sanders and his fans.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)The wailing and gnashing of teeth from the bros is gonna be epic.
Sid
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)That article writer need some help. That's a guy with a very ugly, fact-free mind. It's not even real enough to bother being insulted over.
CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)I like a guy when he is specific about why he dislikes an article. You can't accuse this guy of writing a couple of sentences he could post for every article he doesn't like. No, siree, this guy attacks the article at its core.
However, I'm betting he didn't read it all or we would have on the receiving end of more than two sentences.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)wrong,
vintx
(1,748 posts)larkrake
(1,674 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)I know what's coming. Under the bus with you Newsweek.
I look forward to the day after Bernie endorses Clinton and it is under the bus with him.