Mother Jones Jumps the Shark - "The Sad Decline and Fall of Bernie Sanders" - Left Is Right!?!?

[TomCADem]

You have Rachel Maddow, Salon, and now Mother Jones as a supposed liberal publication attacking Bernie Sanders. In contrast, Fox News, is graciously agreeing to host Bernie and loudly promoting efforts to schedule another debate between Bernie and Hillary. You have Rachel Maddow, Salon, Mother Jones, and others pushing the plutocrats and trying to crush the spirit of the progressive movement while Fox News is suddenly the voice of democracy and a platform for true progressives.

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/05/decline-fall-bernie-sanders

So tonight's Democratic primaries basically ended in a tie. There's really nothing of interest left anymore: Hillary Clinton will win the nomination, as we've all known she would for at least the past month.

The one thing I do keep wondering about is what happened to Bernie Sanders. Before this campaign, he was a gadfly, he was a critic of the system, and he was a man of strong principles. He still is, but he's also obviously very, very bitter. I wonder if all this was worth it for him? By all objective measures he did way better than anyone expected and had far more influence than anyone thought he would, and he should feel good about that. Instead, he seems more angry and resentful with every passing day.

I know this happens all the time in presidential primaries. Everyone starts out promising to run high-minded campaigns, but the attacks always come sooner or later—and the targets inevitably believe the attacks are unfair and slanderous. As a result, the losers develop a deep personal disdain for their opponents.

That's what's happened this time, and I suppose there's nothing unusual about it. I don't even blame anyone in particular. Maybe Hillary's team played too rough. Maybe Bernie's team is too thin-skinned. I just don't know. But it's sort of painful to see a good person like Bernie turned into such a sullen and resentful man. And doubly painful to see him take his followers down that path too.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

1. They must be very worried about clinton as the candidate to go to these lengths

[merrily]

10. She started off with all the name recognition in the world, literally, millions of dollars, every

Dem pundit and strategist and media talking head calling her inevitable since 2012, MSNBC acting as the propaganda arm for her campaign; PACS, the DNC and almost the entire party arrayed against Bernie-- and she hasn't put the primary to bed yet. Oh, yes, I almost forgot: And forty years of the Democratic Party convincing its base that liberals cannot be elected and suck anyway, so they are scared to nominate Bernie, even if they like him far better. And irregularities in the caucuses and the primaries. And this primary has been even more divisive than the one she ran in 2008.

Trump has made one dumb or heinous remark after another, and, nationally, he is three points behind her right now.

They have reason to be worried. You can even see it all over GD: P today.

[merrily]

2. Oh, please.

[DURHAM D]

3. How long before Fox hires Jeff Weaver? nt

[itsrobert]

4. Mother Jones under the bus

n/t

[eastwestdem]

5. What's not to attack. There is nothing resembling a succesful campaign coming from his people.

That would indicate that it might be time to do some soul searching.

[Trenzalore]

6. Is this the part of the revolution where you cut off the heads of people who agree with you nt.

[Hortensis]

11. I think it may be almost time to announce

"You won't have Bernie Sanders to kick around anymore."

At least I hope so. Since his crooked maneuvering and lying to his supporters to destroy the Nevada convention and his intolerable insults of the Democratic Party following that, he is dirt under my feet.

[Txbluedog]

7. Fox News is the voice of democracy.....

The only reason they are offering to host a debate is so they can highlight the dem infighting and help their chosen candidate, Trump

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

8. Kevin Drum, a mere blogger, has been a consistent Hillary fan

for quite a long time. This is nothing new for him.

[Waiting For Everyman]

9. What hogwash.

We're not that easily propagandized, Kevin Drum. Sorry, no sale.

What I do take away from the article is that Drum has an ax to grind. That's his problem.

[Cheese Sandwich]

12. Mother Jones reads Mother Jones

[Eric J in MN]

27. That's great. Where is the cartoon from? NT

NT

[Scootaloo]

29. Hah!

[QC]

48. Love it! n/t

[griffi94]

13. I agree that Bernie is very very bitter

It's probably because now that the primaries are over
he'll almost certainly fade back into obscurity.

That has to be a real shock.

After 20+ years of nobody paying him any attention
he was thrust into the spotlight.

Now his 15 minutes are winding down.
He's losing badly.

He want's to hang on as long as possible my any means available.
Even if it costs him.

[nc4bo]

15. Naw, he's the same as he ever was throughout the years. He just don't like bullshit.

And you know what else? Neither do I or I suspect, most of his supporters.

[griffi94]

18. Well you're certainly entitled to your opinion

The facts however point out a bitter irrelevent candidate
who can't let go.

He has no hope at all of winning.
All he can do now is lose whatever integrity he had
as surely as he's lost the nomination.

Sadly for Bernie and his supporters.
It's over.
He was rejected.

[nc4bo]

19. Our numbers are strong. They represent the future. Best yall think farther ahead

And remember that.

[griffi94]

20. No. They don't.

Bernie is hundreds of delegates and millions of votes behind.

The scoreboard matters.

Democrats didn't trust Bernie with the nomination.

I'm sure it's a bitter pill to take
for his supporters but that's how things are now.

Bernie is much too far down to have any real hope
of catching up.

Just look at the scoreboard

[nc4bo]

21. It's not all about numbers silly. Like so many, you obviously choose to remain

Deaf and blind to the rejection of status quo.

Bernie has given a voice to the movement. We've seen each other at the rallies and know our numbers are huge and powerful.

The old will die off, the young will carry the torch forward. They're trying to tell yall something.

THEY HATE PEAS!

[griffi94]

24. Scoreboard

Bernie's not going to be the nominee.

I'll be surprised if even runs for
his senate seat again in 2018.

There's no movement.
The BoBers will go back to whatever 3rd party they were in before
Bernie showed up.

Any lost voters will be easily replaced with moderate Republicans
who won't vore for Trump.

Scoreboard

[nc4bo]

26. LOL! Keep graveyard whistlin'. nt

[griffi94]

31. Keep watching the scoreboard

Winner makes the rules.

Loser gets ashes.

Bernie lost/
Sorry.

Scoreboard

[nc4bo]

35. You are worthy of being on someone's ignore list.

Keep thinking playing games with people's lives is cool.

Status quo plays all sorts of games with people's lives usually for their personal benefit or those of their friends.....sometimes it costs lives.

Never THEIR lives, just ours. That's gotta change.

[griffi94]

38. Politics is the art of the possible

Sorry but Bernie isn't possible.
His revolution didn't really materialize.

He will not be the nominee.

And now he's just ranting.

Sorry.

[nc4bo]

42. Give me the the more honest candidate over one of the most dishonest anyday

and as I said earlier, many others feel the same.

Hillary can only win if she lies, cheats, deceives and steals. She's been at it since the beginning of the primary season. She's been at it since 2007.

Sanders isn't the candidate who needed to buy a million bucks of hired help or needed superPACs to help hide her messiness. Sanders isn't under FBI investigation. Sanders didn't go behind Obama's back and run her version of SOS. Sanders isn't running a slush fund named the Clinton Foundation, Sanders never tossed a private server in his basement and deliberately tried to hide heaven knows what activities from the public.

He has been a consistent champion of the 99% and will continue to be.

You can keep what you got.

[Jennylynn]

58. Hear, hear!

[redstateblues]

51. Movement? We'll see if BSS show up at the

The mid terms. I have my doubts

[COLGATE4]

62. "They're all trying to tell yall something"

"Drum Circle at 6:00 today".

[nadinbrzezinski]

44. Here is a pro tip

keep dismissing the future.. this is not about an election.. this is well beyond an election.

By the way, you won. The Democratic Party is now a right wing moderate party, but you still need, if you want to win this year, the left you despise. That said, the left you despise has gotten the memo. The cracks are now very, very, very visible. So yes, they party will have to make a choice... the past or the future, And the future looks left.

[griffi94]

47. No. Most of Bernies supporters

will vote for Hillary without being coaxed.

Millions of moderate Republicans will as well.

The BoB group has doubled down on a losing candidate.
Now they want to be coaxed.

There aren't enough of them to matter.

And you're wrong.
It is about an election.
An election Bernie lost.

Sorry

[nadinbrzezinski]

49. Ok

[QC]

52. Looks like "bitter" is the word of the day!

[COLGATE4]

61. I'll be certain to remember this. In fact, I'm filing it right now

in my "Shit I'll never think about again" file.

[Seeinghope]

50. Is that what you said about Hillary Clinton when she lost to Barack Obama?

Remember Hillary Clinton is still under investigation by the FBI

Hillary Clinton is still going to be questioned about the transcripts on the speeches that she gave to the Goldman Sachs like corps on Wall Street.

What about the Clinton Foundation taking donations from foreign countries while these same countries got arms contracts from the State Department?

So I hope that Hillary and her supporters will be able to stand the heat because they may just get burned and take the Democratic Party with them...

[griffi94]

53. You seem to have muddled several different things into one.

The FBI investigation has nothing to do with GS.

Bernie will not be our nominee.
You maybe should start getting used to that.

Tha majority of primary voters didn't want him so they voted for Hillary.

Sorry but the scoreboard matters.

She's beating him by hundreds of delegates and millions of votes.

[COLGATE4]

65. Still waiting for the Indictment Fairy?

[uponit7771]

25. +1, if he was really in it to win it he'd be planning on getting a progressive congress that would

... be bypassing Clinton and leaning her ever further left.

He's not, he's in it for himself and that's it

[redstateblues]

54. They won't be there at the mid terms. Count on it

[arendt]

28. Paging the amateur psychology brigade...

cheap diagnoses, five cents.

What a pile of codswallop.

[griffi94]

33. Bernie lost

Look at the scoreboard.

Sorry.
I know the truth can be painful.

Bernie was rejected by Democratic voters.
By hundreds of delegates and milions of votes.

He's out of time now.

Scoreboard

[arendt]

36. He hasn't lost yet. Sick of that BS. And that makes amateur character assassination OK, because why?

You compound the utter nonsense of the post I responded to.

[griffi94]

39. Sorry but he has lost

Scoreboard.

He's behind hundreds of delegates and millions of votes.

Hillarys lead is insurmountable.

Bernie is at this point simply ranting.

Sorry.

[arendt]

43. You must be a riot at football games come the third quarter.

You keep declaring the future to be the present.

You keep stopping the game because you are afraid your QB will twist an ankle. Tough luck if your candidate doesn't have the stamina to finish the game. That's why we have rules like there are four 15 minute quarters. That's why people who don't quit can make a difference. Every heard of John Havlicek? He never quit. He wore the other team down by never standing still, never quitting. He was famous for winning a league championship by stealing the ball with five seconds left in the game.

So kindly go get drunk. The rest of us are interested in the rest of the game.

[griffi94]

45. Scoreboard

Delegates and votes matter.
Bernie can't catch her now.

Sorry.

[COLGATE4]

66. Elections aren't football. At a certain point the numbers don't lie

and no reasonable person now believes that Bernie has the chance of a snowball in hell of being our nominee. There's no John Havilcek that's going to perform the miracle some of you seem to still believe in. In adults it's called magical thinking.

[Control-Z]

68. I don't think you understand how

the electoral process works. Just my $0.02

[arendt]

60. compete denial that time exists. can't reason W that

You are a lost cause.
I won't waste another breath on you.

[griffi94]

63. Good

Scoreboard.

Bernie isn't going to win.
Voters didn't like him.

Sorry.
Probably better try to get used to it.

[grasswire]

14. wow

sullen and resentful??

Crazy.

[arendt]

30. The corporate media is increasingly desperate

I wonder how much they paid for this little hatchet job. Mother Jones - first it was their endorsement, now this.

Besides Matt Taibbi and David Corn, I never read anything else there. No loss if they want to lash themselves to the White Whale and let it drown them.

[snowy owl]

64. Forget Corn. He's a MSNBC echo chamber anyway.

[arendt]

37. Thanks. Its so hard to keep up. Spinning like dervishes. n/t

[apnu]

17. Did you say FOX NEWS the voice of democracy and progerssives?!?!

[JoePhilly]

34. It is now.

Bernie supporters have also embraced Joe Scab as well.

[uponit7771]

22. MJ is now under the bus... lol... sigh... more whining

[Eric J in MN]

23. This is at least the second anti-Sanders post by Kevin Drum.

Mother Jones has run plenty of anti-Sanders articles.

It isn't a pro-Sanders publication even if it might have been if he'd run for president in some previous decade.

I'm not saying people shouldn't read Mother Jones just like I wouldn't tell people not to read the NY Times which has anti-Sanders op-eds.

[reddread]

41. they were bought and sold long ago

why people hold any faith in self discrediting information sources like MJ or NPR
eludes me.

[ViseGrip]

32. The story is already old, the violent lies, from the DNC, and Mother J. already inked it.

Too bad for losing faith. GO BERNIE!

[seabeyond]

40. Hell, I dunno, some might actually listen. Maybe, just maybe, they ALL have a point. Ya think?

[Broward]

46. Kevin Drum? Big time corporate shill.

[PFunk1]

55. Unfortunatly you'll will be seeing alot of this now from more supposively progressive media outlets.

To paraphrase a country song It's during the tough times you find out who your real friends are. And Sanders and the FDR dems of that party is finding that out now. And it bites.

[mythology]

56. This is an example of Poe's Law right?

Any claim that Fox News is "thevoice of democracy and a platform for true progressives" can't be taken seriously.

[Peregrine Took]

57. The tired, old campaign leaned on Drum

once again for one of his mean spirited, grinder "articles." This one just like the other one but even meaner. He sure has a hard on about Bernie. Jealous?
Who knows what he will dredge up next? Sad.

[COLGATE4]

59. "Fox News is graciously agreeing to host Bernie..."

Gee, I wonder why that might be? Although, upon reflection, it seems obvious to me that the good souls at Fox have our (Democrats) best interest at heart.

[ContinentalOp]

67. Dun dun dun

another one under the bus
and another one gone another one gone
another one under the bus
hey they're gonna get you too
another one under the bus!