2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIt is not Bernies fault with what happens in November
America loses if the choice is between a former Machiavellian businessman (Trump) that used to sposnor openly a Machiavellian politician (Hillary Clinton). Ladies and gentlemen our Democracy has been hijacked.
Local elections is what is going to start to matter more to millions of Americans. The DC bubble is going to grow because the establishment has tasted some pushback. So, in response to that pushback they will further isolate themselves.
Trying to place the blame on Bernie supporters and Bernie himself for what will happen in November is shameful.
jillan
(39,451 posts)the local progressive station has her on for 3 hrs.... she was already blaming Bernie. Non-stop.
Bernie supporters were calling in and she was shouting them down.
They've been blaming us for everything since day one.
Bernie Bros. Then the blamed Bernie when there was that firewall problem while the Hillary campaign stole Bernie supporters info.
It's been non-stop.
I am so sick of it.
They did this to Obama in 2008 too.
Merryland
(1,134 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Was Bernie in her basement inviting Guccifer into her server?
The Hilliterates don't think things through very well.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)But, your hands are clean. Narcissism reaching new heights......LOL
pkdu
(3,977 posts)Harmony Blue
(3,978 posts)Clinton has taken money from Trump and Trump has given money to Clinton.
Guess who is not part of the club? It is definitely not us ordinary plebs at the very bottom.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts),then that must be a mighty small thinking hat you have there.....LOL
Scootaloo
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(7,299 posts)mouths. Will go it without you. We'll survive.
Scootaloo
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(25,699 posts)The efforts come after the House speaker, Paul D. Ryan, on Thursday said he was just not ready to back Mr. Trump, comments the Clinton campaign giddily blasted out in an email and on social media. At the same time, Priorities USA Action, a super PAC supporting Mrs. Clinton, intends to reach out to Republican megadonors disillusioned by their partys presumptive nominee.
More broadly, Mrs. Clintons campaign is repositioning itself, after a year of emphasizing liberal positions and focusing largely on minority voters, to also appeal to independent and Republican-leaning white voters turned off by Mr. Trump.
With the Democratic nomination in sight, Mrs. Clinton has broadened her economic message, devoted days to apologizing for a comment she previously made that angered working-class whites, and pledged that her husband, former President Bill Clinton, who remains widely popular among the blue-collar voters drawn to Mr. Trump, would come out of retirement and be in charge of creating jobs in places that have been particularly hard hit.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/07/us/politics/hillary-clinton-republican-party.html
She might want to shore up her own party - even those who don't like her much - before she starts trying to fish up Republican support.
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(25,699 posts)Response to Harmony Blue (Original post)
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eastwestdem
(1,220 posts)Surely a fringe candidate can't have that kind of impact.
Harmony Blue
(3,978 posts)Bernie has not shown any indication he will run in the general election as an Independent.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Nor did the 200,000 right-wing Democrats that voted for Bush, creating a 400,000-vote swing.
Go figure, I guess
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... sure he'll join her and campiagn for her hard and bring the rest of the party with him.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)They are "with" Clinton. She is their leader, and the vast majority of them are prepared to do what she says.
Sanders is "with" us. He can suggest a course of action, but we are not his footsoldiers.
As a result, it is fundamentally up to Clinton to win over Sanders supporters. Or not. Sanders can help, if Clinton seeks his help, but Sanders can not deliver his voters as a package to Clinton.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)And the DNC for anointing such a weak candidate.
She will own that loss just like Gore owns the 2000 result.
PFunk1
(185 posts)As it's going to be split into two distinctive sides with no hope of unifying. With many thanks to being blamed for Clinton's loss joining the ever growing political group now know as "democratic independents".
But hey, this is what happens when you try to push a weak and unlikable DINO onto folks who no longer will accept one.