2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumFox news had Clinton winning Penn by only 2 pts
Around 3-4 days before those 5 states voted in those closed primary, I checked out 538. I had to look a couple of times because I thought it was a typo. Fox news had Clinton up by only 2 points in Penn, MD, CA, and CT. It was 2 points nationally but while all the other polls had here way up there in the numbers in the other states Fox only had her up by 2 in all the states.
niyad
(113,284 posts)still_one
(92,187 posts)national poll saying trump leads Hillary slightly.
The fact is, National polls mean very little since states determine the electoral votes
niyad
(113,284 posts)still_one
(92,187 posts)from R/W sites, which is pretty bad for a Democratic site
niyad
(113,284 posts)PJMcK
(22,035 posts)While it's true that many news outlets favor the Republicans such as Fox News, Breitbart and The Drudge Report. But there are many reputable news sites that represent the conservative point of view. Two examples are The National Review and The Wall Street Journal. In no way am I endorsing the right wing's point of view but it's possible to trap yourself in a left-wing bubble if you don't read a broad range of perspectives.
BlueNoMatterWho
(880 posts)That shitty news organization actually puts out highly rated and accurate polls according to FiveThirtyEight. Who knew?
anotherproletariat
(1,446 posts)still_one
(92,187 posts)being spewed right now means very little. Not because it is fox, but because it is a national poll, and that is not how the general election is run
DLCWIdem
(1,580 posts)There were 5 polls the day that I checked. All 5 from Fox had her up by only 2. National poll up by 2. MD POLL UP BY 2. SAME WITH CA AND PENN. STATISTICAL PROBABILITY ALL?POLLS SAME NUMBER? Especially when the other polls had her up by much larger margins.
still_one
(92,187 posts)point, I do now. Thanks for the clarification
DLCWIdem
(1,580 posts)still_one
(92,187 posts)ram2008
(1,238 posts)Shows her at +11 in the PA Primary, she won by 12.
Fox's polling is accurate, unlike their news.
DLCWIdem
(1,580 posts)ram2008
(1,238 posts)DLCWIdem
(1,580 posts)I looked twice because as I stated I thought it was a typo that they were repeating her national polls. As for Fox being accurate in polls. LOL
ram2008
(1,238 posts)If there was, you'd be able to easily find evidence of it.
And yes, Fox is accurate in polling, according to 538.
DLCWIdem
(1,580 posts)Right now on 538 one of the polls I was talking about.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com
The poll above it has Clinton +10 from Sextant Strategies
Fox news Clinton +2 April 18-21
YouGov Clinton +12
Look for yourself.
WHY SO MUCH DIFFERENCE?
I can't find the fox polls on the MD 538 site now they dropped the poll but they had in April.
Sorry the address is http://projects.fivethirtyeight/.../primary/california Just look on the California 538 state primary site.
ram2008
(1,238 posts)Still no poll in PA showing Clinton up only 2.
DLCWIdem
(1,580 posts)for more recent polls. But that one is still up. Like I said Look on the 538 CA primary site. I am having trouble with links.
ram2008
(1,238 posts)But Fox had Clinton up 11 in PA she won by 12.
538 gives their polls a good rating.
it's generally regarded as a good poll.
DLCWIdem
(1,580 posts)DLCWIdem
(1,580 posts)Which one doesn't belong.
DLCWIdem
(1,580 posts)My post said that there was 4-5 Fox polls on the 538 sites had her up by only 2 points, The same 2 points in each of the polls sometime in middle of April. So I thought it was a typo error. Especially when compared to other polls. I can now pinpoint it to be April 18-21 as I found one of the polls. Because it is after the election and 538 got better polls 538 must have dropped the Fox polls and gone for more recent polls. At the time those Fox polls dropped Clinton's chance of winning from 98-99% to 94%. As I said that was in April and they have since been dropped. There is, however, one of those polls left which is CA. ON the CA primary site 538. Im having trouble with the links but the information to type in is right there. Bye bye.
ram2008
(1,238 posts)The only one that exists is a +2 one Clinton one in California which has not yet voted.
You're having trouble with links because there is no such thing that you speak of.
DLCWIdem
(1,580 posts)I've got to figure out how to post to these links. I'll be back.