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DLCWIdem

(1,580 posts)
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:27 PM May 2016

Fox news had Clinton winning Penn by only 2 pts

Around 3-4 days before those 5 states voted in those closed primary, I checked out 538. I had to look a couple of times because I thought it was a typo. Fox news had Clinton up by only 2 points in Penn, MD, CA, and CT. It was 2 points nationally but while all the other polls had here way up there in the numbers in the other states Fox only had her up by 2 in all the states.

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Fox news had Clinton winning Penn by only 2 pts (Original Post) DLCWIdem May 2016 OP
we are quoting faux snooze now? really????? niyad May 2016 #1
I think the OP is trying to counter the posts going around quoting a Fox still_one May 2016 #4
that is possible. I am astounded at all the faux snooze threads on this site. niyad May 2016 #5
That bothers me also, and it isn't just faux threads, it is a fair number of links still_one May 2016 #7
I know, and it is getting steadily worse. niyad May 2016 #8
Don't entirely agree PJMcK May 2016 #26
Faux Poll BlueNoMatterWho May 2016 #2
Even if correct, she only needs about 40% to still win in delegates. nt anotherproletariat May 2016 #3
Hillary winning 55 to 43in Penn, is a pretty off poll. The National Poll from fox still_one May 2016 #6
Your not getting me. Every single poll had the same number. I thought it was a typo. DLCWIdem May 2016 #9
All Their sampling was obviously screwed up. And no, I didn't get your original still_one May 2016 #10
I thought screwed up on purpose. DLCWIdem May 2016 #11
I don't know still_one May 2016 #12
What are you talking about? Fox had her up 11 in PA ram2008 May 2016 #13
No. When I looked it on the 538 just days before the primary the poll said Clinton +2 DLCWIdem May 2016 #14
Well, you must've imagined it, because no such poll exists n/t ram2008 May 2016 #15
the poll your quoting was from April 10. the one I saw was around April 18. byline was Sanders sur DLCWIdem May 2016 #16
Your eyes must've deceived you. There was no such poll. ram2008 May 2016 #17
quick look right now DLCWIdem May 2016 #18
Your first link doesn't show PA, which is what we're talking about, second link is broken. ram2008 May 2016 #19
again thats California which is still up. Look on the Ca 538 site. PA and MD were already dropped DLCWIdem May 2016 #20
California has not yet voted, so the accuracy or inaccuracy of the polls there cannot be measured ram2008 May 2016 #21
As compared to the other polls. DLCWIdem May 2016 #23
the top pol is 10. Fox poll 2. bottom poll 12. Quite a difference 10-------2--------12 DLCWIdem May 2016 #24
Actually my post was about numerous Fox polls DLCWIdem May 2016 #22
You're not making any sense at all, the polls you're talking about don't exist ram2008 May 2016 #25
I just found another poll from Fox that has Clinton up +2 DLCWIdem May 2016 #27

still_one

(92,187 posts)
4. I think the OP is trying to counter the posts going around quoting a Fox
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:33 PM
May 2016

national poll saying trump leads Hillary slightly.

The fact is, National polls mean very little since states determine the electoral votes

still_one

(92,187 posts)
7. That bothers me also, and it isn't just faux threads, it is a fair number of links
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:41 PM
May 2016

from R/W sites, which is pretty bad for a Democratic site


PJMcK

(22,035 posts)
26. Don't entirely agree
Fri May 20, 2016, 12:06 PM
May 2016

While it's true that many news outlets favor the Republicans such as Fox News, Breitbart and The Drudge Report. But there are many reputable news sites that represent the conservative point of view. Two examples are The National Review and The Wall Street Journal. In no way am I endorsing the right wing's point of view but it's possible to trap yourself in a left-wing bubble if you don't read a broad range of perspectives.

 

BlueNoMatterWho

(880 posts)
2. Faux Poll
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:33 PM
May 2016

That shitty news organization actually puts out highly rated and accurate polls according to FiveThirtyEight. Who knew?

still_one

(92,187 posts)
6. Hillary winning 55 to 43in Penn, is a pretty off poll. The National Poll from fox
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:39 PM
May 2016

being spewed right now means very little. Not because it is fox, but because it is a national poll, and that is not how the general election is run

DLCWIdem

(1,580 posts)
9. Your not getting me. Every single poll had the same number. I thought it was a typo.
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:08 PM
May 2016

There were 5 polls the day that I checked. All 5 from Fox had her up by only 2. National poll up by 2. MD POLL UP BY 2. SAME WITH CA AND PENN. STATISTICAL PROBABILITY ALL?POLLS SAME NUMBER? Especially when the other polls had her up by much larger margins.

still_one

(92,187 posts)
10. All Their sampling was obviously screwed up. And no, I didn't get your original
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:14 PM
May 2016

point, I do now. Thanks for the clarification

DLCWIdem

(1,580 posts)
16. the poll your quoting was from April 10. the one I saw was around April 18. byline was Sanders sur
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:10 AM
May 2016

I looked twice because as I stated I thought it was a typo that they were repeating her national polls. As for Fox being accurate in polls. LOL

ram2008

(1,238 posts)
17. Your eyes must've deceived you. There was no such poll.
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:33 AM
May 2016

If there was, you'd be able to easily find evidence of it.

And yes, Fox is accurate in polling, according to 538.

DLCWIdem

(1,580 posts)
18. quick look right now
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:36 PM
May 2016

Right now on 538 one of the polls I was talking about.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com

The poll above it has Clinton +10 from Sextant Strategies

Fox news Clinton +2 April 18-21

YouGov Clinton +12
Look for yourself.

WHY SO MUCH DIFFERENCE?

I can't find the fox polls on the MD 538 site now they dropped the poll but they had in April.

Sorry the address is http://projects.fivethirtyeight/.../primary/california Just look on the California 538 state primary site.

ram2008

(1,238 posts)
19. Your first link doesn't show PA, which is what we're talking about, second link is broken.
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:49 AM
May 2016

Still no poll in PA showing Clinton up only 2.

DLCWIdem

(1,580 posts)
20. again thats California which is still up. Look on the Ca 538 site. PA and MD were already dropped
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:27 AM
May 2016

for more recent polls. But that one is still up. Like I said Look on the 538 CA primary site. I am having trouble with links.

ram2008

(1,238 posts)
21. California has not yet voted, so the accuracy or inaccuracy of the polls there cannot be measured
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:33 AM
May 2016

But Fox had Clinton up 11 in PA she won by 12.

538 gives their polls a good rating.

it's generally regarded as a good poll.

DLCWIdem

(1,580 posts)
24. the top pol is 10. Fox poll 2. bottom poll 12. Quite a difference 10-------2--------12
Fri May 20, 2016, 11:04 AM
May 2016

Which one doesn't belong.

DLCWIdem

(1,580 posts)
22. Actually my post was about numerous Fox polls
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:55 AM
May 2016

My post said that there was 4-5 Fox polls on the 538 sites had her up by only 2 points, The same 2 points in each of the polls sometime in middle of April. So I thought it was a typo error. Especially when compared to other polls. I can now pinpoint it to be April 18-21 as I found one of the polls. Because it is after the election and 538 got better polls 538 must have dropped the Fox polls and gone for more recent polls. At the time those Fox polls dropped Clinton's chance of winning from 98-99% to 94%. As I said that was in April and they have since been dropped. There is, however, one of those polls left which is CA. ON the CA primary site 538. Im having trouble with the links but the information to type in is right there. Bye bye.

ram2008

(1,238 posts)
25. You're not making any sense at all, the polls you're talking about don't exist
Fri May 20, 2016, 11:56 AM
May 2016

The only one that exists is a +2 one Clinton one in California which has not yet voted.

You're having trouble with links because there is no such thing that you speak of.

DLCWIdem

(1,580 posts)
27. I just found another poll from Fox that has Clinton up +2
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:01 PM
May 2016

I've got to figure out how to post to these links. I'll be back.

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