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Wed May 18, 2016, 11:25 PM

Ralph Nader: Sanders Should Stay in Democratic Race, Is Only Losing Due to 'Anti-Democratic' System

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Reply Ralph Nader: Sanders Should Stay in Democratic Race, Is Only Losing Due to 'Anti-Democratic' System (Original post)
Baobab May 2016 OP
JoePhilly May 2016 #1
BootinUp May 2016 #2
hrmjustin May 2016 #3
FreakinDJ May 2016 #10
hrmjustin May 2016 #12
Baobab May 2016 #17
hrmjustin May 2016 #18
Baobab May 2016 #23
COLGATE4 May 2016 #14
radical noodle May 2016 #4
liberal_at_heart May 2016 #8
Arazi May 2016 #13
Baobab May 2016 #19
doc03 May 2016 #5
liberal_at_heart May 2016 #9
demwing May 2016 #21
Baobab May 2016 #20
JudyM May 2016 #6
radical noodle May 2016 #11
JudyM May 2016 #15
AzDar May 2016 #7
SidDithers May 2016 #16
tabasco May 2016 #22
tandem5 May 2016 #24
RufusTFirefly May 2016 #25
still_one May 2016 #27
Baobab May 2016 #28
still_one May 2016 #29
still_one May 2016 #26
eastwestdem May 2016 #30
frylock May 2016 #31

Response to Baobab (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 11:26 PM

1. That groundhog is back?

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #1)

Wed May 18, 2016, 11:27 PM

2. He's one of the few left that wants to talk about Bernie. nt

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Response to Baobab (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 11:30 PM

3. Elections have winners and losers.

 

He lost. He tried very hard but he lost.

I know many of you don't like it but in a democracy we vote.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #3)

Wed May 18, 2016, 11:36 PM

10. Remember that now that Hillary is polling behind Trump

 

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Response to FreakinDJ (Reply #10)

Wed May 18, 2016, 11:38 PM

12. I am well aware she might not win but I believe she will.

 

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #12)

Wed May 18, 2016, 11:48 PM

17. neoliberals use that phrase winners and losers a lot and with services liberalisation we're always

the losers.. they all agree we will be, it seems, because our wages, to them all, "have to fall" - a lot.

They want to do this by throwing open services to international competition, with government procurement, work will go to the lowest bidding firms from all over the world, and their workers. US firms wont win those bids. So our own tax money will be flowing overseas in huge amounts unless our wages fall way way down.. I would be willing to bet that this happens within two or three years. they have been planning it for more than a decade.. You can read about it in dozens of world organizations.. for example, the WTO if you Google on "disciplines on domestic regulation"

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Response to Baobab (Reply #17)

Wed May 18, 2016, 11:50 PM

18. Oh ok.

 

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #18)

Wed May 18, 2016, 11:59 PM

23. Yup.. PM me if you want links.

its not secret..

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Response to FreakinDJ (Reply #10)

Wed May 18, 2016, 11:41 PM

14. Yeah. I always get my reliable news from Fox. nt

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Response to Baobab (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 11:31 PM

4. Nader loves being a spoiler



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Response to radical noodle (Reply #4)

Wed May 18, 2016, 11:34 PM

8. That argument doesn't work on the 42% of Americans that are Independents.

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Response to radical noodle (Reply #4)

Wed May 18, 2016, 11:41 PM

13. Nader got 2.74% of the vote in 2000. He did not cost Gore the election.

http://disinfo.com/2010/11/debunked-the-myth-that-ralph-nader-cost-al-gore-the-2000-election/

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/6/1260721/-The-Nader-Myth

Gore lost his home state of TN and refused to let Bill Clinton campaign for him in Arkansas and lost there too.

Gore ran a bad campaign. He has always taken the responsibility for that.

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Response to Arazi (Reply #13)

Wed May 18, 2016, 11:52 PM

19. he wasnt progressive enough to GOTV

and then he tried to make up for it at the very end...after many people had given up on him and switched to Nader

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Response to Baobab (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 11:32 PM

5. Listen to Ralph Nader he knows all about losing elections for Democrats n/t

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Response to doc03 (Reply #5)

Wed May 18, 2016, 11:35 PM

9. Democrats know how to lose elections.

How many Senate, House, and governorships have we lost under the current leader of the Democratic Party? Is Nader to blame for all those losses as well? or is it just the voters fault for those losses? Anybody's fault but the party's right?

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Response to liberal_at_heart (Reply #9)

Wed May 18, 2016, 11:54 PM

21. Ouch, that Berned! /nt

 

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Response to doc03 (Reply #5)

Wed May 18, 2016, 11:53 PM

20. His positions were a lot more progressive than Gore's

like Sanders, he's been proven right by time.

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Response to Baobab (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 11:33 PM

6. Just noticed another Clinton lie.

She was at an LGBT event wearing a leather jacket and remarked it's the only leather clothing article she owns. This pic is a different leather jacket. Hmm.

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Response to JudyM (Reply #6)

Wed May 18, 2016, 11:37 PM

11. Faux leather possibly? It's everywhere these days and looks very real

Or perhaps she got that after that particular event.

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Response to radical noodle (Reply #11)

Wed May 18, 2016, 11:43 PM

15. If she didn't lie more often than not, I would give her the benefit of the doubt, too.

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Response to Baobab (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 11:34 PM

7. Truth.

 

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Response to Baobab (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 11:44 PM

16. Fuck Ralph Nader...nt

Sid

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Response to Baobab (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 11:55 PM

22. Fuck Ralph Nader. n/t

 

Sorry mf.

I support Sanders but fuck Ralph Nader!

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Response to Baobab (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 12:09 AM

24. Fuck Ralph Nader

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Response to Baobab (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 12:41 AM

25. Thanks Baobab! Your OP reminded me to update my Ignore list

Anyone who posts "Fuck Ralph Nader"?
Boom! I send them off to the cornfield.




I'm starting to realize that life is too damn short.


P.S. I am a lifelong Democrat. But probably not for much longer. A pity my party has left me.

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Response to RufusTFirefly (Reply #25)

Thu May 19, 2016, 12:50 AM

27. I try to avoid that type of language, but feel free to add me to your ignore list

because I despise Nader.

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Response to still_one (Reply #27)

Thu May 19, 2016, 12:58 AM

28. thats okay,

I don't.

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Response to Baobab (Reply #28)

Thu May 19, 2016, 01:02 AM

29. ok by me

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Response to Baobab (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 12:48 AM

26. yeah right ralph. All those people who voted for Hillary don't count, huh? Ralph why don't

you take your multi-millions, that you made off your mutual funds, and go back to your irrelevancy

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Response to Baobab (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 01:23 AM

30. When Nader starts giving you advice, it's time for some soul searching Bernie...

 

really.

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Response to eastwestdem (Reply #30)

Thu May 19, 2016, 01:27 AM

31. As opposed to soliciting advise from Kissinger.

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