Wed May 18, 2016, 11:25 PM
Baobab (4,667 posts)
Ralph Nader: Sanders Should Stay in Democratic Race, Is Only Losing Due to 'Anti-Democratic' System
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31 replies, 1537 views
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Author | Time | Post |
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Baobab | May 2016 | OP |
JoePhilly | May 2016 | #1 | |
BootinUp | May 2016 | #2 | |
hrmjustin | May 2016 | #3 | |
FreakinDJ | May 2016 | #10 | |
hrmjustin | May 2016 | #12 | |
Baobab | May 2016 | #17 | |
hrmjustin | May 2016 | #18 | |
Baobab | May 2016 | #23 | |
COLGATE4 | May 2016 | #14 | |
radical noodle | May 2016 | #4 | |
liberal_at_heart | May 2016 | #8 | |
Arazi | May 2016 | #13 | |
Baobab | May 2016 | #19 | |
doc03 | May 2016 | #5 | |
liberal_at_heart | May 2016 | #9 | |
demwing | May 2016 | #21 | |
Baobab | May 2016 | #20 | |
JudyM | May 2016 | #6 | |
radical noodle | May 2016 | #11 | |
JudyM | May 2016 | #15 | |
AzDar | May 2016 | #7 | |
SidDithers | May 2016 | #16 | |
tabasco | May 2016 | #22 | |
tandem5 | May 2016 | #24 | |
RufusTFirefly | May 2016 | #25 | |
still_one | May 2016 | #27 | |
Baobab | May 2016 | #28 | |
still_one | May 2016 | #29 | |
still_one | May 2016 | #26 | |
eastwestdem | May 2016 | #30 | |
frylock | May 2016 | #31 |
Response to Baobab (Original post)
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:26 PM
JoePhilly (27,787 posts)
1. That groundhog is back?
Response to JoePhilly (Reply #1)
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:27 PM
BootinUp (44,319 posts)
2. He's one of the few left that wants to talk about Bernie. nt
Response to Baobab (Original post)
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:30 PM
hrmjustin (71,265 posts)
3. Elections have winners and losers.
He lost. He tried very hard but he lost.
I know many of you don't like it but in a democracy we vote. |
Response to hrmjustin (Reply #3)
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:36 PM
FreakinDJ (17,644 posts)
10. Remember that now that Hillary is polling behind Trump
Response to FreakinDJ (Reply #10)
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:38 PM
hrmjustin (71,265 posts)
12. I am well aware she might not win but I believe she will.
Response to hrmjustin (Reply #12)
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:48 PM
Baobab (4,667 posts)
17. neoliberals use that phrase winners and losers a lot and with services liberalisation we're always
the losers.. they all agree we will be, it seems, because our wages, to them all, "have to fall" - a lot.
They want to do this by throwing open services to international competition, with government procurement, work will go to the lowest bidding firms from all over the world, and their workers. US firms wont win those bids. So our own tax money will be flowing overseas in huge amounts unless our wages fall way way down.. I would be willing to bet that this happens within two or three years. they have been planning it for more than a decade.. You can read about it in dozens of world organizations.. for example, the WTO if you Google on "disciplines on domestic regulation" |
Response to hrmjustin (Reply #18)
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:59 PM
Baobab (4,667 posts)
23. Yup.. PM me if you want links.
its not secret..
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Response to FreakinDJ (Reply #10)
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:41 PM
COLGATE4 (14,732 posts)
14. Yeah. I always get my reliable news from Fox. nt
Response to Baobab (Original post)
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:31 PM
radical noodle (7,782 posts)
4. Nader loves being a spoiler
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Response to radical noodle (Reply #4)
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:34 PM
liberal_at_heart (12,081 posts)
8. That argument doesn't work on the 42% of Americans that are Independents.
Response to radical noodle (Reply #4)
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:41 PM
Arazi (5,758 posts)
13. Nader got 2.74% of the vote in 2000. He did not cost Gore the election.
http://disinfo.com/2010/11/debunked-the-myth-that-ralph-nader-cost-al-gore-the-2000-election/
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/6/1260721/-The-Nader-Myth Gore lost his home state of TN and refused to let Bill Clinton campaign for him in Arkansas and lost there too. Gore ran a bad campaign. He has always taken the responsibility for that. |
Response to Arazi (Reply #13)
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:52 PM
Baobab (4,667 posts)
19. he wasnt progressive enough to GOTV
and then he tried to make up for it at the very end...after many people had given up on him and switched to Nader
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Response to Baobab (Original post)
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:32 PM
doc03 (33,257 posts)
5. Listen to Ralph Nader he knows all about losing elections for Democrats n/t
Response to doc03 (Reply #5)
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:35 PM
liberal_at_heart (12,081 posts)
9. Democrats know how to lose elections.
How many Senate, House, and governorships have we lost under the current leader of the Democratic Party? Is Nader to blame for all those losses as well? or is it just the voters fault for those losses? Anybody's fault but the party's right?
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Response to liberal_at_heart (Reply #9)
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:54 PM
demwing (16,916 posts)
21. Ouch, that Berned! /nt
Response to doc03 (Reply #5)
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:53 PM
Baobab (4,667 posts)
20. His positions were a lot more progressive than Gore's
like Sanders, he's been proven right by time.
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Response to Baobab (Original post)
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:33 PM
JudyM (26,734 posts)
6. Just noticed another Clinton lie.
She was at an LGBT event wearing a leather jacket and remarked it's the only leather clothing article she owns. This pic is a different leather jacket. Hmm.
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Response to JudyM (Reply #6)
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:37 PM
radical noodle (7,782 posts)
11. Faux leather possibly? It's everywhere these days and looks very real
Or perhaps she got that after that particular event.
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Response to radical noodle (Reply #11)
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:43 PM
JudyM (26,734 posts)
15. If she didn't lie more often than not, I would give her the benefit of the doubt, too.
Response to Baobab (Original post)
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:44 PM
SidDithers (44,228 posts)
16. Fuck Ralph Nader...nt
Sid
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Response to Baobab (Original post)
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:55 PM
tabasco (22,974 posts)
22. Fuck Ralph Nader. n/t
Sorry mf.
I support Sanders but fuck Ralph Nader! |
Response to Baobab (Original post)
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:09 AM
tandem5 (2,072 posts)
24. Fuck Ralph Nader
Response to Baobab (Original post)
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:41 AM
RufusTFirefly (8,812 posts)
25. Thanks Baobab! Your OP reminded me to update my Ignore list
Anyone who posts "Fuck Ralph Nader"?
Boom! I send them off to the cornfield. ![]() I'm starting to realize that life is too damn short. P.S. I am a lifelong Democrat. But probably not for much longer. A pity my party has left me. |
Response to RufusTFirefly (Reply #25)
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:50 AM
still_one (87,922 posts)
27. I try to avoid that type of language, but feel free to add me to your ignore list
because I despise Nader.
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Response to still_one (Reply #27)
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:58 AM
Baobab (4,667 posts)
28. thats okay,
I don't.
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Response to Baobab (Original post)
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:48 AM
still_one (87,922 posts)
26. yeah right ralph. All those people who voted for Hillary don't count, huh? Ralph why don't
you take your multi-millions, that you made off your mutual funds, and go back to your irrelevancy
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Response to Baobab (Original post)
Thu May 19, 2016, 01:23 AM
eastwestdem (1,220 posts)
30. When Nader starts giving you advice, it's time for some soul searching Bernie...
really.
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Response to eastwestdem (Reply #30)
Thu May 19, 2016, 01:27 AM
frylock (34,825 posts)