What We Learned Is Going To Be EMBARRASSING To Mrs. Clinton & The Administration — Maybe More Than

[Segami]

snip

The judge, Emmet G. Sullivan of United States District Court in Washington, has been sharply critical of the State Department’s handling of the email affair over the last year.

“It just boggles the mind that the State Department allowed this circumstance to arise in the first place,” said Judge Sullivan, who was appointed to the Federal District Court in 1994 by President Clinton. The judge called the email episode “very, very, very troubling.”

Mr. Lukens, a former ambassador to Senegal, was the leadoff witness in the Judicial Watch depositions. He served as executive director of the State Department’s executive secretariat under Mrs. Clinton until 2011, providing her with logistical, administrative and travel support. Judicial Watch said it was seeking his testimony because records that have already been released indicated that he had emailed Ms. Mills and others about Mrs. Clinton’s private email server.

Thomas Fitton, the president of Judicial Watch, who took part in Mr. Lukens’s deposition, said afterward that he could not discuss the substance of the testimony because of the ground rules set by Judge Sullivan. But Mr. Fitton predicted that once the testimony is publicly released — perhaps as early as next week — it would show “why the State Department and Mrs. Clinton have slow-rolled this and withheld a complete explanation of what went on with her email system. What we learned is going to be embarrassing to Mrs. Clinton and the administration — maybe more than embarrassing.”

He refused to elaborate, citing the court’s restrictions. After the deposition, State Department lawyers invoked a procedure to review Mr. Lukens’s testimony for three days before deciding whether to ask the judge to keep any parts of it confidential for security or legal reasons. The State Department declined to comment on the deposition.


cont'

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/19/us/politics/ex-aide-to-hillary-clinton-testifies-on-email.html?1=0&_r=0

[Segami]

1. Drip, drip, drip, drip, drip,........

[SFnomad]

5. You can get a penicillin shot to take care of that problem of yours n/t

[aspirant]

7. Does penicillin cure trckle down?

[lewebley3]

103. You are a GOP person

[cali]

104. You are a a conservative.

[lewebley3]

106. I am progressive just like most of the Democratic party

[cali]

110. Conservadem sadly uninformed.

You fool no one.

[lewebley3]

112. You repeat Sanders propaganda: I am very informed;

I never trusted Sanders at all, he is helping the GOP attack
Hillary.

[cali]

113. Bwahaha. Unlike you, I don't swallow propaganda.

And do tell what propaganda I supposedly repeat. I know you struggle with writing more than one sentence as well as with coherency, but do try, my conservadem dem friend.

[ViseGrip]

134. that's funny!

They are sailing the river in Egypt!

[tex-wyo-dem]

18. I don't think penicillin is very effective against...

Civil lawsuits...and certainly not against criminal indictment.

[SFnomad]

21. I was talking about the dripping that segami has n/t

[Katashi_itto]

22. Segami doesn't have it. Clinton does, will penicillin work for her?

[Katashi_itto]

55. Denial is such a terrible thing.

[CorporatistNation]

218. HillarY Will be Done In Less Than 2 weeks! She IS TOAST! And... It Is Entirely Her Doing!

It's that... POOR JUDGEMENT MAN!

[pangaia]

51. Are you accusing segami of having syphillis?

[Fantastic Anarchist]

193. He's/she's real classy dude/dudette.

Implying someone has syphilis as a political debate tactic ...yeesh.

[pangaia]

206. Tell me about it

I thought for 3 seconds of alerting, but I don't think I ever have. And eh. Why bother...

[ChisolmTrailDem]

97. It sure is right on schedule, you got that shit right! Brace yourselves, we're about to have...

...a compromised Democratic Party nominee for President of the United States.

And then there was one...

[Amaril]

133. ....

[lewebley3]

102. There is nothing to learn about Hillary we know everything

[nolabels]

141. One thing is for sure, we already know too much

[Fantastic Anarchist]

194. Thinking you know everything is foolish.

Knowing you don't know all there is, is a sign of intelligent thinking.

[cui bono]

217. Which is why we're for Bernie.

[lewebley3]

246. Sanders is an empty suit, that has been rejected: He is not a leader

[NanceGreggs]

2. Keep clinging to the Indictment Fairy.

The minute she hauls Hillary off in cuffs, Bernie will do a stage dive at the convention, and will be carried on the shoulders of the faithful into the waiting arms of the delegates and super-Ds - whereupon he will be handed the nomination, and go on to give free college educations and singer-payer healthcare to all!!!

Huzzah, huzzah! they will cry with one voice!!! We are saved! Democracy is saved! Long live Bernie!!!

(It's a cute fantasy - just thought I'd flesh it out for you a tad.)

[Segami]

4. Yawn.........uaaaah....

Wha....what was that?....you say something?..........nothing I see......

[NanceGreggs]

6. Then why are you responding ...

... to what you can't see.

Or to frame it in your terms: WHY are you RESPONDING to what you can't SEE?

[tex-wyo-dem]

19. You're funny, Nance...

I like the "fairy" reference ...it's cute

[NanceGreggs]

20. I like the belief that ...

... the Indictment Fairy really exists - that's even cuter.

[chwaliszewski]

26. I like your signature line...

but I like mine much better.

[libdem4life]

89. You all claim that no one ever said It's Her Turn. Well, no one but

your group has ever mentioned the Indictiment Fairy. It's tedious and tiresome, but gets trotted out on que.

Not that you'll get it, but what we want is an answer...call it closure. It's been going on for decades. Time to put it to rest and there is no time like the present.

Surely, you'd agree with that...put it to rest.

Indictment Fairy...so cute. Can we go to something new like the Magical, Mystical Unicorn Tales?

[frylock]

156. The Indictment Fairy doesn't appreciate being mocked and ridiculed.

There will be much suffering for such insolence.

[Skwmom]

24. We'd be happy just to have someone sit in the Whitehouse who is not beholden to big money

someone who didn't sell us out and cash in. Anything else is pure gravy.

[madokie]

105. Thats it EXACTLY

nothing more or nothing less. We want what is right and Hill ain't that

[truedelphi]

210. Thanks Skwmom.

Of course, knowing that we had a return to the Fourth Estate and that the press would actually report on happenings of importance and not continually be in the pocket of those who are corrupt would be pleasing as well!

[okieinpain]

245. so you don't think bernie isn't going to need big donor dollars for the general n/t.

[appalachiablue]

247. +10

[still_one]

28. Perhaps Larry Klayman can host the General Discussion : Primary Group. I suspect some here would

love that

[Zen Democrat]

115. Klayman is a nutcase and has been for over 25 years. Comey isn't a nutcase; he's Director of the FBI

There's a difference.

[frylock]

158. I notice that any mention of Director Comey really serves to shut down the bullshit.

They're scared. They may deny it, but they're scared. They know the writing is on the wall.

[sheshe2]

29. I am swallowing a back laugh here.

[grasswire]

155. what is a back laugh? nt

[sibelian]

250. I think it's a bit like being poisoned by your own spit.

That's what my grandmother used to call it, anyway.

[morningfog]

86. That is overly dismissive and off topic. This is a statement from a sitting federal judge

who is familiar with the facts.

There is a great expanse between embarrassing and an indictment. And plenty of self-inflicted harm can result in that gap.

[Herman4747]

90. Indictment Fairy can save the world from...

...a horrible Clinton Presidency guided by Henry Kissinger.

[madokie]

107. Spot on

Hillary is not going to win the GE if she is our nominee. If I were a gambler I'd bet good money on that.
The last thing I want to see is a tRump pResidency. Thats exactly what we'll get if she limps in

[Fantastic Anarchist]

195. Those are some pretty serious and important subjects ...

... to mock and scorn.

[Logical]

201. Keep clinging to the "Hillary is a democrat" fairy. nt

[NanceGreggs]

203. Look, I realize some people here ...

... think that if they post something over, and over, and over, and over again on a message board, that somehow makes it real.

The "Hillary isn't a Democrat" schtick was laughable the first time it was posted - and no, the 4,572nd time is NOT the charm.

[KoKo]

256. Those "some people" aren't necessarily Bernie supporters, though. n/t

[Logical]

202. What you wrote in 2008 is still 100% true! LOL.....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5314138

I am truly heartsick that the Hillary Clinton I admired for years is gone – or, more sadly, perhaps never existed other than in my own imagination.

Being a woman of a certain age, I am aware that politics is a dirty game, and probably won’t change any time soon.

But there are certain rules of engagement, and Hillary’s campaign, along with the candidate herself, have chosen to bend them, belittle them, besmirch them – or simply ignore them.

There was a definite and all-too-obvious line to be crossed here, and Hillary Clinton has crossed it. Unfortunately for Hillary, it wasn’t the finish line.

This is just one woman’s opinion – but I wanted to share the fact that a lack of support for Hillary, on my part and on the part of others, is not, as some would spin it, about sexism or racism, the victim, the soundbyte, the Reverend tape-loop, the pinned-by-sniper-fire story, the he said/she said, the "but he/she did it, too" gotcha moment.

It is instead about rules being pledged to and then reneged on when convenient. It is about promises being made and then broken when all else fails. It is about decrying the disenfranchisment of voters in states you suddenly need while, in the same breath, advocating the idea that superdelegates should overturn the will of all voters if things turn out not to your liking.

In short, it’s about integrity – which, somewhere along the way, Hillary Clinton lost, misplaced, forgot, or simply discarded as an expendable obstacle in her failed race to what is proving to be the bitter side of nowhere.

[NanceGreggs]

204. Looks like she learned a lot ...

... from her first go-round.

Too bad Bernie didn't watch and learn as well.

[Logical]

215. Seems like to me she just changes her mind for no reason at all. nt

[KoKo]

257. You aren't alone in your observation....

Well stated....

This is just one woman’s opinion – but I wanted to share the fact that a lack of support for Hillary, on my part and on the part of others, is not, as some would spin it, about sexism or racism, the victim, the soundbyte, the Reverend tape-loop, the pinned-by-sniper-fire story, the he said/she said, the "but he/she did it, too" gotcha moment.

It is instead about rules being pledged to and then reneged on when convenient. It is about promises being made and then broken when all else fails. It is about decrying the disenfranchisment of voters in states you suddenly need while, in the same breath, advocating the idea that superdelegates should overturn the will of all voters if things turn out not to your liking.

In short, it’s about integrity – which, somewhere along the way, Hillary Clinton lost, misplaced, forgot, or simply discarded as an expendable obstacle in her failed race to what is proving to be the bitter side of nowhere.

[rhett o rick]

222. Why does your side hate helping college students out? Why do you hate health care for all?

Why do you think that we should deny medical marijuana to those suffering? Why do you choose fracking for oil corps profits over the drinking water for us peons? I have to guess it's mammon: The greedy pursuit of wealth. That overrides all else, doesn't it.

[Fawke Em]

235. This is the civil case, not the FBI investigation.

There's no indictments in civil cases.

But, this shows me, once more, that Hillary fans don't know a damn thing about the law.

[KoKo]

258. That two judges are allowing two civil cases to go forward for discovery

...and, the FBI is also investigating many of the same issues from another angle means something serious has been flagged. What it means...we don't yet know. But, it should be discussed. Those of us who remember Watergate or studied about it in American History can see what could come if we elect a President under a cloud of investigations.

[aspirant]

3. Beginning next week, wow

Plenty of time for California to absorb.

[NanceGreggs]

10. Absolutely.

I'm sure they're "absorbing" the treatment their much-loved and popular senator, Barbara Boxer, received from BS delegates in NV.

I'm sure they can't wait to vote for Bernie now.

[aspirant]

12. Boxer is a history and she knows it

[NanceGreggs]

15. Mm hmm. Sure. What ev.

[leftynyc]

30. She's RETIRING

as a very popular senator. The way the Bernie supporters continue to throw good Democrats under the bus to continue to support a losing candidate is repulsive. And Bernie's legacy is now a pile of shit because of it.

[aspirant]

39. The old guard is limping away and the millennials and others could care less.

[leftynyc]

40. The the millennials

are assholes who think they got the rights they enjoy by a fairy coming down and granting it to them rather than thanking these people who have been fighting for decades. Selfish, entitled little shits they are.

[RadiationTherapy]

48. I have worked with hundreds of students at a university for 14 years.

They are mostly great! Anyone who reads your post can easily see where the asshole is.

[leftynyc]

50. Yawn

I think they're the most selfish, entitled generation ever. They think they can waltz out with a university degree and get a 6 figure job and retire at 40. Are there exceptions? Sure, but few and far between. It's really the fault of their parents who told them how fabulous and exceptional they were their entire lives.

[Giggity]

54. Oh please.

Baby boomers moved straight out of their parents house into their children's.

The Greatest Generation was spot on about the Baby Boomers. Whiny, spoiled and self-centered.

[leftynyc]

57. And who do you think raised

the millenials? The same generation that gives out trophies to ALL the teams because they wouldn't want their precious snowflakes to understand what being on a losing team is all about. That's why they can't understand HOW their candidate could lose? You just proved my point. They're whiny, spoiled and self centered - exactly as I said.

[Giggity]

58. Right. Participation trophies = Hillary for President.

Ingenious.
How did I not see it before!?

That's the kind of logic you just can't argue with!
Top notch argument, Professor.

[leftynyc]

59. Spare me the bullshit

It's an attitude and it's been baked into the millenial mentality. I can practically see them stamping their feet "but MOMMY, Bernie is the one I want".

[Giggity]

64. Spare the bullshit & stick with the "facts" of participation trophies and what you can "practically"

see

That's "practically" a pertinent and intelligent point.

Great job.

[leftynyc]

142. The spelling gestapo

How special.

[Giggity]

143. I wasn't correcting your spelling.

I was mocking the fact that your "evidence" consists solely of your imagination.

I really don't know how I could have made that much clearer.

[leftynyc]

144. Yawn

I suppose that must make sense to.....somebody.

[Giggity]

147. "Somebody" meaning "anybody with basic literacy"

Do you require pictures?

[leftynyc]

151. LOL

Your hissy fit over your candidate losing is very amusing. Am I supposed to care what an anonymous low post count person has to say about me? Sorry, you're simply not important or relevant to my life.

[Giggity]

152. What "hissy fit"?

Again, I'm simply mocking your factless nonsense and your "evidence" of your imagination.

At what post count are you planning to tackle recognizing that your imagination is not evidence and mastering basic literacy?

[leftynyc]

227. You're pretty boring

I do hope you're not like this in your real life. That would be sad.

[Giggity]

240. I'm sorry you feel that way. I find you rather entertaning.

I have always heard of the horrible standards of the New York education system and being able to see its effects first hand is very fascinating.

[libdem4life]

221. No really, we need a Get Off My Lawn Guy now to complete the

generational insults. Hmmm, wonder who we could get?

[SpareribSP]

208. You forget the part

Where those millenials are now going out into a job market where they face huge amounts of unemployment and underemployment, while people like you throw asinine insults.

People go on about trophies but the real feeling I get is people feel like they're spinning their wheels and are frustrated, they don't feel coddled once they graduate saddled with massive debt and a bleak economic outlook. Why aren't millenials buying homes, cars, etc? It's the economy, stupid.

[Fawke Em]

238. Boomers raised Gen Xers and they raised Millennials.

At least get it right if you're going to put down an entire generation who you screwed over.

[philosslayer]

253. Best Republican rant ever!!

And get off my yard!!!!!

[RadiationTherapy]

66. How many hundreds of millenials have you talked to? I am up to probably 500.

That is working with them as employees and having taken many classes with them. I am fairly confident you have no idea what you are talking about here.

[leftynyc]

67. Hundreds

mostly from a very affluent suburb of NY. I'm seen them in action and it's nauseating. But go ahead and discount African Americans, older Americans, women and everyone else who have given Hillary the majority of pledged delegates, superdelegates and actual votes because the most entitled generation I've ever witnessed wants someone else. Too bad.

[libdem4life]

81. You know all of these people? You've seen them in action?

Amazing. Most millenials in "very affluent suburbs" can get a college degree and a job awaiting them so aren't in need of Revolution. In fact, like their parents, it's a threat. But then, that's true for all of the 1%.

You have a point that Bernie does not speak for them.

Good try, though.

[leftynyc]

92. Yes - I know them all

AND their parents. So the affluent don't matter either. So just which groups are you planning on actually accepting into your "revolution". I mean you've discounted the poor, African Americans, elected Democrats, women, the entire south - you do realize you need actual people for a successful revolution, don't you?

[libdem4life]

100. Pretty desperate there...my discounting and all.

Bernie is for the Peasant (former Middle) Class, mostly...those without resources which gives them little or no voice in our current system, and for whom the system does not work very well. That includes portions of all of the above...except, of course, for the elected Democrats.

And since he's campaigning on having the Rich pay Their Fair Share, pretty sure the Affluenza Folk aren't too chummy with it regardless of how many of such you know.

But as to the clever accusation of discounting the ........................... fill in the blank. Do tell.

Remind me how many small donors, new voters, wide demographics sent him money and continue to do so like me...with a small automatic deposit...leave him with no actual people. I believe it is in the millions. You get points for creativity.

[leftynyc]

108. He wants to raise taxes on everyone

The last time we ran a Democrat that wanted to do that - and was stupid enough to announce it - lost 49 states. No thanks. Too bad for you MORE people voted for his opponent. The people who are actual Democrats and have supported the party and know there is no such thing as the perfect candidate (which Bernie is FAR from). But the denial stage seems to be working for you personally so have at it.

[grasswire]

157. ok, now you are displaying ignorance.

Before, it was just some kind of class-based resentment.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

198. Please provide a source that supports your ...

... statement that he wants to tax everyone.

Also, some people actually need to be taxed, but they don't want to pay their share. You were saying something about being "entitled" earlier. Funny, that.

[RadiationTherapy]

96. Witnessing is not interacting. To me you sound like an old school racist or sexist who just "knows"

how "those people" are because they witness the behaviors their prejudices already expect to see. It is a form of echo-chamber effect that plagues bigots.

[leftynyc]

98. Who said I didn't interact?

Where do you get this crap from? I sure hope you're okay with me not caring in the slightest what you think. Right winger!!! Bigot!!! YAWN - it's all boring me now.

[RadiationTherapy]

111. You said you've "seen them in action." That sounds a lot like, as I said before, a bigot

who selectively "observes" behaviors and draws conclusions about millions of people they have never met. That's why I take care to mention that I have spent thousands of hours with millennials working, learning, and teaching. And I take care to mention that those I have interacted with were pretty great. It doesn't mean all, though I am more confident in my own extrapolations than yours, due to your obvious lack of interaction.

[leftynyc]

114. I've been living my life

around these kids (and their parents) for 25 years. I'm related to a dozen of them and they're (relatives, their friends and others involved in the community service events they're involved in) used to me sitting them down to hear what they have to say about politics and how it effects their lives. They're good kids - just feel entitled to get what they want when they want it and I've got news for you - they'll be the first ones to tell you that.

[RadiationTherapy]

117. Well, I wish they could read these posts of yours and know how you hold them in such low regard.

Though I give credit where it is due: I am glad you actually interact with people about whom you draw such cold conclusions. Nonetheless, I think you are prejudiced against them and perceive them as "spoiled" (a word that infers permanency) thus making your wall of "otherness" essentially impenetrable. In any case, even if those you know are as bad as you say, forgiveness is one gift that the old - in my opinion - owe the young.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

199. Leftynyc sounds bitter.

[leftynyc]

225. And now I'm a bigot

Well, it's a very good thing I stopped giving a crap what anonymous people on the internet say when they're lashing out like children.

[Zen Democrat]

116. I have five millenial grandchildren. I think they may be the greatest generation.

All of them are smart, caring and aware of the world.

Taking down generations is what I call "stupid." You don't like baby-boomers? You are ignorant. If you dislike them so much you should discard all of the computers and smart phones you have. They were developed by acid-taking hippies, you know.

And cleaning the air and the water and fighting nuclear -- it's all good.

There are heroes and losers in any generation. But this new group has impressed me more than all predecessors.

[leftynyc]

118. The boomers are fine

it's their kids that were raised in an entitled, "I can have it all" environment that gave trophies to the losers and told everyone they were special and entitled to everything. The parents had no idea of the harm they were doing. But I'm watching this generation of Bernie supporters and become nauseous - they simply can't accept that their nominee is losing. They're a bunch of whiny babies who have zero loyalty to anything. They only have the rights they have because DEMOCRATS fought for it but they turn around and call Sen Boxer a bitch. I'm sick of them.

[notadmblnd]

123. So I take it you're childless?

[Fantastic Anarchist]

197. Your post says a lot more about you ...

... than it says about Millennials.

[leftynyc]

224. I don't care

Another thing that annoys me about this age group is how they take their freedoms and rights for granted, not taking the time or energy to think about how and why they have them. Civil rights, women's rights, worker's rights = all from Democrats who FOUGHT for them - just so their children could lead better lives. If my thinking the fighters should get some recognition and respect is a problem for you, once again, I don't care.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

231. Civil Rights, workers rights, women's rights ...

.... those all came from the agitation of socialists/anarchists. Yeah, the Democratic Party may have taken that agitation and included it in their platform, but none of those rights were just handed out by the Party. Workers, minorities, and women in general, and socialists/anarchists in particular were all at the forefront of gaining those rights.

The Millenials are pushing for further rights; that doesn't automatically imply that they are not grateful for the rights already won. That's just an astoundingly illogical assumption to make.

[frylock]

162. HILLARY 2016: Millennials are Assholes.

GOTV!

[leftynyc]

228. Well, I guess it would

look like that to anyone who can't handle complex thinking. You have my sympathies.

[frylock]

243. The the millennials

are assholes who think they got the rights they enjoy by a fairy coming down and granting it to them rather than thanking these people who have been fighting for decades. Selfish, entitled little shits they are.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2002356

[Fantastic Anarchist]

196. The defense of Hillary is quite revolting.

She is not as pure as her supporters think.

Bernie, at least, wasn't involved in a shouting match in Nevada, which didn't hurt anyone, or harm the nation. Clinton, on the other hand, seems to be involved in or support things that actually hurt people.

[leftynyc]

239. Feel free to link

to ANY DU Hillary supporter calling her pure. I'll wait.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

242. You sure act like she's pure.

[Egnever]

120. WTF Boxer announced her retirement before the primaries began.

The level of BS in these threads is astounding.

[aspirant]

130. ...and that's why Califorians have looked onward

[MFM008]

226. Shes retiring

so yes she is history.

[pmorlan1]

78. If they aren't it wasn't for lack of trying by the Clinton campaign

NanceGreggs (20,387 posts)
10. Absolutely.

I'm sure they're "absorbing" the treatment their much-loved and popular senator, Barbara Boxer, received from BS delegates in NV.

I'm sure they can't wait to vote for Bernie now.

Glad to see your post. Most of us thought all along that THIS was the reason for the Clinton campaign "shock & awe" media deluge about Nevada. A campaign tactic to demonize Sanders and his campaign to get more votes for Hillary in California. Seeing you brag about that tactic here just confirms it for everyone. Thank you. But don't forget when "shock awe" is used it's usually followed by blowback.

[NanceGreggs]

83. It's not a tactic ...

... and I'm certainly not bragging about it.

The BS supporters did the damage. What negatives towards Bernie flow from that damage is their fault, no one else's.

I've learned that BS supporters, just like their leader, are incapable of accepting responsibility for anything. Everything is someone else's fault.

[pmorlan1]

88. Whatever you say

[Vattel]

244. Stupid sweeping generalization

[Egnever]

119. Woa Nance runs the Clinton campaign?

I admit she would be a good choice but I had no idea!

[frylock]

160. Californians aren't buying into that bullshit.

Barbara Boxer is lying her ass off because she knows that Cali is going for Bernie.

[NanceGreggs]

164. Sure. n/t

[frylock]

170. Bank it, Nance.

[Segami]

182. Makes one wonder what was BB doing in Nevada

attending the Nevada convention? Was there a plan in play here that involved BB and the ambushing of Bernie supporters before the CA primary?

This reaks of a David Brock oppo.

[frylock]

190. I don't think there's any doubt about it.

Boxer's "you're booing yourself out of an election" seemed a little scripted to me. One minute she's up there trolling Bernie supporters claiming that she isn't afraid, the next she's telling the MSM that she was afraid for her life. And for what? For being FUCKING booed?!!

I have cast several votes for that woman, and had a lot of respect for her. I am now ashamed for that.

[Lodestar]

8. Feeling like we're being set up for something....n/t

[Skwmom]

25. The Emails are important but sure seem to distract from a lot of other issues such

as the Clinton Foundation and all of the other money transactions in conjunction with what happened at the State Dept.

[HereSince1628]

32. Yes, and I suspect for many it will be disappointment. n/t

[grasswire]

9. that plus the brand new Enquirer cover and center fold.

Bill and his women.

America? You're being re-traumatized.

[840high]

16. And DailyMail tonight.

[Merryland]

60. When Hillary refers to Bill - proudly - as "MY husband"

she perhaps should add, perhaps less proudly, "My husband in name only..."

[k8conant]

65. Thus, not just a DINO but a HINO!

[antigop]

95. link, please? I must have missed this. nt

[demwing]

131. Link

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3599214/Bill-Clinton-rape-victim-Juanita-Broaddrick-tells-lasting-trauma-1978-attack-claims-victim-told-there.html

[leftynyc]

31. And donnie's good friend

the owner of the Enquirer sure does thank you for spreading the shit here.

[oasis]

34. As if Hillary will be counting on votes from avid readers of the Enquirer.

[leftynyc]

37. Still shows the repulsive

lengths both donnie AND Bernie supporters will go to to spread this around.

[oasis]

38. Nothing surprises me when it comes to the desperate measures

so called "Democrats" will stoop to in order to realize their revolution fantasy.

[JudyM]

68. Afraid of *facts*?

[leftynyc]

70. LOL

Facts? From the national enquirer (owned by donnie's good friend). How many other sewers do you swim in?

[JudyM]

79. The sewer that results from the excrement of their corruption, unfortunately. We all have to suffer

through that and hopefully *facts* surfacing through this sewer system will be picked up by wider media channels so that we won't have to swim in her sewer any more after the convention.

ETHICS and LAW MATTER to some of us.

[leftynyc]

94. You're going to be

very disappointed and I'm already looking forward to Skinner cleaning out what this forum has become. Then perhaps we wont have to put up with right wing sources and tabloids being thrown around as if they're legitimate. facts from the enquirer - LOL - that's funny.

[JudyM]

148. Attacks on Bernie are as much "right wing" attacks as what you claim are the ones vs Hillary.

You just can't see your own double standard.

Factual criticism from the left is valid. Bernie is to the left of Hillary. Pretty simple, really.

[frylock]

169. Once Skinner is finished "cleaning out", Hillary Supporter will start eating themselves.

It's going to be quite a spectacle!

[AzDar]

13. K & R

[silvershadow]

14. k&r

[840high]

17. k/r ur k/r

[Skwmom]

23. It is troubling that they are trying to keep inspector generals from looking at ALL documents and

that it is the Democrat Majority Leader, Harry Reid, who is keeping this from happening. What a corrupt cesspool.

[grasswire]

27. Did you see the thread about DiFi tonight? nt

[Segami]

47. Do you have a link grasswire?

[grasswire]

154. sorry to be so late getting back to you

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512001766

[pdsimdars]

33. As anyone who cared to pay attention and look into it has already known

this ain't no speeding ticket.

[randome]

35. Praying to the dark Gods of Judicial Watch.

What new low could you...oh, no. Not that. Someone talk me down! Please don't let me see James O'Keefe used as a valid resource here! Noooooooo!!!
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[grossproffit]

42. The train is definitely off the tracks.

[randome]

45. I try my utmost to remain objective...

...but it's clear that Sanders supporters will use any means necessary to thwart Clinton, including running to Conservatives for help. When that happens, the 'game' is already lost.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[JudyM]

71. Oh I see. But Clinton courting their votes is no problem...?

[randome]

73. She's certainly not courting the likes of O'Keefe or Judicial Watch.

I'm sure you'll disagree but that comes from those who see Clinton the same as Trump, something even Sanders would never utter.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[libdem4life]

91. That's for sure. They don't have millions to give her.

She goes to those with the money because the Coronation didn't come off as expected.

[JudyM]

69. Corruption is corruption, facts are facts, whichever side you're on. We don't want a corrupt POTUS.

[frylock]

171. Just dealing with reality here.

You may want to brace yourself for the coming shitstorm.

[John Poet]

36. Is the email problem part of Hillary's "foreign policy experience",

or part of her "national security experience" ?

[stillwaiting]

46. Super judgment demonstrated within both areas!!

Definitely deserves a promotion!

[grasswire]

159. excellent point

I hope some reporter asks her that.

[Waiting For Everyman]

41. Wow. "very, very, very troubling" from a US DC Judge.

He sounds a little mind-blown about it.

[randome]

43. Any judge who makes comments like that is not an impartial judge.

No matter which side of this issue you are on, it should be "very, very, very troubling" for a judge to make public comments like this.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[yourout]

53. That or it is really that bad.

I will reserve judgement on the Judge until we find out what he knows.

[leveymg]

56. Any judge who makes comments like that is a very, very pissed-off judge.

In this case, for a good reason having to do with the State Department's misrepresentation of facts (that all emails had been turned over to the Court) and the defendant's sworn attestation last August that all Clinton's work-related emails had been submitted into evidence, and the later revelation that many had been withheld, particularly the ones related to Cheryl Mills negotiations with the NSA and the agency's warnings to her that Clinton's Blackberry was deemed "unsecure", and she shouldn't use it.

If you are the defendant in a criminal or civil case, the fact that you have aroused the court should be very, very troubling. The Judge could rule contempt or have the defendant charged with perjury at any time.

[randome]

74. What's more likely? That the judge is 'concerned' about national security?

Or that he's already made up his mind to find something to ding Clinton with? Please. No judge worthy of the position makes these kind of public statements. Justice is not blind, in this case. And you know what? Despite it all, the Indictment Fairy STILL won't appear!
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[leveymg]

82. Oh, everyone involved is part of the VRWC. Nobody has any genuine concerns for law and justice.

By the way, the same bloviating Clinton campaign types who invented the "security review" and "retroactive classification" memes also came up with the "Indictment Fairy." The FBI may simply find that HRC violated her security clearance -- and lay out the evidence -- and leave it to DOJ to decide whether to indict (of course, the AG will run out the game until the President pardons).

The GOP would love to run against her under those circumstances.

But, hopefully, the smarter Democrats will not let her be the candidate unless she's exonerated. And, she won't be. Look for someone else to latch your wagon onto.

[libdem4life]

93. Have we ever had a President pardon him/herself? I don't recall it.

But this is no ordinary political debacle.

And ditto...last paragraph.

Now we have the newly formed Anyone But Bernie Party.

[uponit7771]

62. +1, I've never read something like this from a judge... he'll be appealed pretty quickly

[frylock]

172. ..

[libdem4life]

219. You run with that. DC Federal Judges are noted for their partiality.

Just in case...

[grasswire]

161. yep, a federal judge

...and the other federal judge is pissed about it, too.

WTG Hillary team!

[JoePhilly]

44. "Thomas Fitton, the president of Judicial Watch"

So now were quoting RW nut jobs on DU and pretending that its meaningful.

ok.

[uponit7771]

63. +1, even ODonnell was touting a FAUX news poll with demo internals for Trump worse than rMoney !!!

[libdem4life]

220. As I recall, he is the Plaintiff. And if so, he does have standing in the case.

And what he says and thinks and does already have had quite the impact. Just sayin'

[ViseGrip]

52. Get your popcorn ready!

[ViseGrip]

61. Frogmarch her to jail!

[randome]

75. In six business months.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[ViseGrip]

72. You see, it's not Bernie harming her going into the convention. She is her worst enemy!

[ViseGrip]

76. HILLARY CLINTON - GET OUT OF THIS RACE NOW!

Fienstein even says to fess up!

Hillary and her supporters must stop blaming Bernie for Hillary's own actions in life.

They should be thankful they will have a great candidate, when she can no longer run.

[pmorlan1]

77. If True We Probably Won't Find Out

If he is correct then we won't find that out anytime soon.

State Department lawyers invoked a procedure to review Mr. Lukens’s testimony for three days before deciding whether to ask the judge to keep any parts of it confidential for security or legal reasons. The State Department declined to comment on the deposition

.

[DebbieCDC]

180. I don't know why they phrased it that way

Because it is normal legal practice for a deponent to have a certain amount of time to review the written transcript and to sign off on it and/or make clarifications. It's not a "procedure" to be invoked.

Now the business about sealing the deposition or redacting parts of it, yes that's something the lawyers would have to petition the court to allow. But a deponent is always given the opportunity to review the written transcript first.

[thereismore]

80. Looking forward to the release of the testimony in this annual pro-forma FBR "security review." nt

[FlatBaroque]

85. The State Dept under Clinton was a rogue operation

I think the criminality during those years is going to turn out to be epic.

[grasswire]

163. yes

The word "epic" is going to be re-defined as it applies to American politics.

We can measure it by this other old phrase:

Worse than Watergate.

[thereismore]

87. So, Jake Sullivan is next at the FBI. Does anybody know why Blumenthal isn't interviewed?

Blumenthal was in the middle of the SAP leaks re: Libya. I think he should be charged too, but I don't think they are interrogating him (FBI).

[antigop]

99. watch this...

[thereismore]

124. Oh... thank you, I wasn't aware of that. He may be singing too! nt

[antigop]

125. You're welcome. nt

[grasswire]

165. he did testify to the Benghazi committee..

...but that testimony has never been released.

[thereismore]

175. Yes, I knew that, but I don't know if the FBI has access to that testimony. Do you know? nt

[grasswire]

177. I spose they could subpoena it from the committee?

I really don't know either.

[frylock]

173. Oh, the irony would be delicious.

[pdsimdars]

122. I think they did already. Not sure though . . . . some reporter asked him and he said he can't say

or something like that. .

[Blue_Adept]

101. Fitzmas is ever closer!

[Else You Are Mad]

109. Forget about the BS FBI investigation...

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It is the FOIA lawsuit that we really need to worry about. Since the plaintiff is a RW organization, they will comb over every word that everyone says looking for a lie in deposition testimony and will ram it down our throats between now and November.

So forget the 'indictment fairy' it is a perjury charge that stems from the civil suit we need to worry about. See, e.g. what the right did with Bill.

It is one of the few times I don't want to say I told you so.

[onecaliberal]

128. This ISN"T a lie about a BJ, and it's not the right "making this up"

Hillary Clinton made a deliberate decision to do something she was told NOT to do, in doing so she jeopardized national fucking security. This is NOT going away.

[Else You Are Mad]

139. I was referring only to the likely outcome of it, not to Clinton's guilt or innocence. Nt

[KoKo]

153. Yes...Giving False Info--Judge Ok's Deposition Plan On FOIA/Private Server Use

Judge OKs deposition plan in Hillary Clinton email case

By Josh Gerstein

Updated 05/04/16 07:35 PM EDT

A federal judge has approved a plan to take sworn testimony from former aides to Hillary Clinton about her use of a private email server during her tenure as secretary of state.

U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan issued an order Wednesday approving the discovery plan, which was agreed to by the State Department and Judicial Watch, a conservative group that demanded Clinton's emails under the Freedom of Information Act.

"The circumstances surrounding approval of Mrs. Clinton’s use of clintonemail.com for official government business, as well as the manner in which it was operated, are issues that need to be explored in discovery to enable the Court to resolve, as a matter of law, the adequacy of the State Department’s search of relevant records in response to Judicial Watch’s FOIA request," Sullivan wrote in his 15-page order.

Sullivan's order explicitly left open the question of whether Clinton should be subject to a deposition about the private email arrangement. The order calls for depositions over the next eight weeks of former Clinton chief of staff Cheryl Mills, former deputy chief of staff Huma Abedin and former information technology specialist Bryan Pagliano. Also slated to be deposed under the plan are Undersecretary of State for Management Patrick Kennedy, former executive secretary Stephen Mull and former Executive Secretariat executive director Lewis Lukens.

The eight-week period to complete the depositions will conclude in late June. That timing has the potential to tee up a debate about a possible deposition of Clinton just a few weeks before she is expected to receive the Democratic nomination for president at the party's national convention in Philadelphia.
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"Judicial Watch raises significant questions in its Motion for Discovery about whether the State Department processed documents in good faith in response to Judicial Watch's FOIA request. Judicial Watch is therefore entitled to limited discovery," the judge wrote.

"Critical facts related to the clintonemail.com server preclude a legal analysis, at this time, of whether the State Department conducted an adequate search under FOIA," Sullivan wrote at another point in his order.

The judge noted that Clinton and Abedin turned over to the State Department messages from the accounts each maintained on Clinton's server. However, he pointed out that the former officials decided what to make available.

"Notably, the process by which the State Department took possession of Mrs. Clinton and Ms. Abedin’s federal records from the clintonemail.com server was through self-selection by Mrs. Clinton, Ms. Abedin, Ms. Mills and their private counsel," wrote Sullivan, who was appointed by President Bill Clinton.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/hillary-clinton-email-deposition-plan-222801

[truedelphi]

248. And a person has to figure that the judge has heard the rumors too.

Speculative accounts of how various State Department deals were set up. The Laureate Educational Foundation receives the State Department funding, and of course, the Clintons figure on how the American people have mostly believed all their tales about this or that funding being for the good of churches and schools.

Who would ever look into the matter? must have been their thinking on this matter.

And then reporters start wondering how it is that Bill Clinton gets an honorarium from said Educational Foundation, and goes on to receive some three million a year?

And that is just one rumor, right?

[KoKo]

254. Like "Watergate" ....

We have to hope there is a "Deep Throat?" When Politics get to "Out of Alignment...Forces Will Come In to Check the Balance!"

I worry we are far beyond that happening...but, still hope that "Truth Will Out."

[truedelphi]

255. While we wait for a "Deep Throat," there is such strong support for Sanders.

Did you know that Wednesday in Vallejo there were some 20,000 people to see Sanders?

[Fairgo]

252. What ever happened to the notion of "appearance of impropriety"?

You can't swing a summons without hitting Clinton skullduggery. I think her nickname should be "Rico".

[thereismore]

132. Good point. There are more than one way she is in trouble. nt

[Else You Are Mad]

138. Bingo.

And this time they are hardened veterans of the 30 year anti-clinton war. As sad as it is, if there weren't 3 serious attempts to impeached Clinton during her first term, I would be surprised.

[thereismore]

146. I could name two different charges they could use already but I won't be helping them. nt

[truedelphi]

211. Also, the total change in attitude among voters right now -

The Bill Clinton Admin could survive scrutiny because the public didn't think he was a bad deal.

Now with the internet's sunshine exposing what the Clintons have really been about, the public might well insist on some real teeth sinking into into any investigation. Things won't be so easy to sweep under the rug.

42% or more of all Registered Voters think both parties suck. And they see the Clintons as very much part of what is wrong with both parties.

[Else You Are Mad]

233. Exactly.

It is not just the RW & so called Bernie Bros that don't like her -- the average vote her mistrusts her at best. Regardless of the cause, it is a problem.

[Beacool]

121. You are bolding the comment from the president of Judicial watch????

I wouldn't believe anything anyone from Judicial Watch has to say. Do some research on them.

[Ferd Berfel]

126. K&R Segami

your posts are terrific!

Keep up the work.

[Renew Deal]

127. Judicial Watch is now a credible source on DU

At least for Sanders supporters. Other recent favorites are the Washington Times, Town Hall, Fox, and Rasmussen.

[lumberjack_jeff]

129. The link I saw was to the New York Times.

Corruption? Shhh... keep your voice down. We don't want anyone to know that our annointed one is corrupt.

We want to wait until the general election to learn it.

[Renew Deal]

135. Did you read the article?

Who was the source?

[lumberjack_jeff]

136. Then your concern is the NYT's choice of sources. n/t

[Renew Deal]

137. No. It's yours

[sibelian]

249. Not as such, RD. Jeff didn't raise any particular difficulties with the source...

... which is either wrong, or not.

If it's wrong, I'm sure you can tell us why.

[Beacool]

140. Every RW site has been quoted this primary season.

Well, maybe not Free Republic, unless I missed it.

[frylock]

174. Reality is now a credible source on DU.

[randome]

187. Well, the flying turtle pic is awesome but Judicial Watch hasn't been credible for a long time.

Their statement reminds me of what Trump said about his investigators in Hawaii. We know how that turned out.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[frylock]

191. How about Judicial Judge?

What's his credibility looking like to you?

[randome]

205. Any judge who makes public comments DURING AN INVESTIGATION is not worthy of his/her position.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[frylock]

207. This judge has apparently reached his wit's end with Hillary's bullshit.

That should be of some concern to Hillary Supporter.

[truedelphi]

212. A double thank you!

You spoke truth to the folks with their heads in the sand, and you made me laugh!

[thereismore]

145. People who so want Clinton to "continue Obama's legacy" should think how she actually damaged his

legacy in real blood currency. If she becomes President, I fear his (and Kerry's) brilliant negotiations with Iran will be flushed down the toilet and we'll have a hot new war.

[truedelphi]

213. Yes, the actual accomplishment of not blowing up the planet may just disappear under Hill.

Although I have no doubt that before that happens, she will continue all of O's programs that keep enriching the Banking Class.

[eastwestdem]

149. Embarrasing is okay...notice he didn't mention that anything is criminal. nt

[Segami]

167. First day's deposition.....

Let's see what interesting nuggets pop up further down the road.

[thereismore]

176. Saying that would be prejudicing the outcome of the investigation, plus, this is just a FOIA request

discovery phase, not an actual criminal investigation. That could happen later if Judicial Watch or some citizen files a lawsuit based on information revealed in the discovery phase. I think that's how it works.

[libdem4life]

181. Um, I believe that would be illegal. Won't happen without a Grand Jury.

[Sheepshank]

150. Isn't that the same line Drumpf use against Obama regarding what he found in Hawaii/birth certs? nt

[TipTok]

166. Same as for Trump...

True believers don't care... There could be video of them tossing a puppy off a cliff...

Everyone else has already made up their mind.

The only thing that would stop either candidate is being physically incarcerated as of Nov 5.

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

168. Months ago, Uma said if this stuff gets out it's going to be humiliating

Confirmation next week

[trudyco]

209. when did she say that? /nt

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

229. November (Huma)

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/260284-clinton-often-confused-staffer-says-in-revealed-email


"In the Jan. 26, 2013, message, Abedin gave the note about Clinton while discussing the secretary’s schedule with another the note about Clinton while discussing the secretary’s schedule with another Clinton aide, Monica Hanley.
“Have you been going over calls with her for tomorrow?” Abedin asked Hanley. “So she knows [then-Indian Prime Minister Manmohan] singh is at 8?”

“She was in bed for a nap by the time I heard that she had an 8am call,” Hanley responded. “Will go over with her.”

“Very imp to do that,” Abedin said in response.

“She’s often confused.”


At the time, someone posted an article in which Huma expressed near horror at the thought these email would be made public.

Terrifying

By ELIZA COLLINS 04/01/16 05:47 PM EDT

Huma Abedin hasn’t freshly read any of her email exchanges with Hillary Clinton that have been released by the State Department, but the longtime Clinton aide said it is "terrifying" to know that the messages are out there.

“It’s something I can’t really think about, but I can’t even imagine what’s in those emails. But I’m sure I would probably be mortified. I have no idea. I haven’t read any of them,” Abedin, who served as one of Clinton's top aides at State, said in an interview with the podcast "Call Your Girlfriend."

The State Department publicly released thousands of emails from Clinton, including many messages to her aides, after it was discovered that she used a private email server during her four-year tenure as secretary of state. Clinton has said that, looking back, it wasn't the best decision, but that she did violate any rules or laws. The FBI is investigating the unusual server setup.

In the interview, Abedin was also asked about the infamous fax emails in which she is trying to coach Clinton through using a secure fax machine. Abedin said the exchange showed “a little bit of her frustration because it wasn’t working, and my frustration that she couldn’t figure it out or whatever it was.”

“It wasn’t unusual when secure faxes were coming through that we had some challenges,” she said, adding that she didn’t remember that specific moment until the email made the headlines.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/human-abedin-emails-hillary-clinton-221478#ixzz44cGT1fKE

[HassleCat]

178. Probably just embarrassing.

"...maybe more than embarrassing." Ooooo! Aaaah! I hope we all realize this is how the witch hunters try to make us believe they have more than they really have. Yeah, there will be egg on some faces because the State Department was sloppy about electronic security measures, but that's it. It's embarrassing. The "maybe more" comment is meaningless, but intended to make us think someone could be charged with a crime. When that doesn't happen, "maybe more" will turn out to be "really embarrassing."

[apnu]

179. This problem is beyond the State Department.

For the claim to be true, that Hillary exclusivly used her private email sever for state business, that means she was communicating with the Pentagon, CIA, NSA, National Archives, and Homeland Security on insecure channels.

All those agencies have their own regulations for security which mirror if not strengthen State Department regs. Given what I've read of the State Dept. regs, any government agency that communicated with Hillary's private email server is in violation as much as Hillary and the State Department.

Where are the investigations into that? Where are the calls for the heads of the Joint Chiefs?

Also, SoS Powell and Rice both used private email services and have admitted as much on camera to journalists. Why haven't they been investigated and indicted?

For that matter, why hasn't the Bush Administration been investigated and indicted for losing 11 million whitehouse.gov emails?

But we yammer on about Hillary Clinton.

This is a serious issue, but this is also a witch hunt. Prove me wrong.

[libdem4life]

185. It's been posted a number of times...the differences. Look it up here.

Their actions may have skirted some rules, but did not expose government communications to be hacked. They actually KNEW the difference between Classified and Not Classified...as did HRC. So, she is either stupid, lazy and incompetent...or,

[apnu]

188. I work in IT and deal with security

I deal with a lot of end-users and I see first hand, the affects of security policies and regulations and human beings.

I'll go with laziness. There is a point, for all people where security becomes inconvienent to their desires and they will try and go around it. It takes trains ngnto get people to adhere to policies and a staff to see the policies are enforced.

Not stupidity, not incompetence. This is lazy end-user behavior.

[libdem4life]

192. Well, I appreciate that, but beyond that, she was warned, she was instructed

and she lied about her advisors, and thumbed her nose at President Obama...and the list goes on. And that's what she first tried out...couldn't manage two hand held devices. Laziness.

And she had help, but worst of all...she instructed the server wiped clean. I'm sure that wasn't laziness. And now they are being recovered and aides being deposed.

Frankly, the email incompetence or whatever becomes just the starting point.

[Art_from_Ark]

214. If you work in IT and deal with security,

you should know that there is a difference between using private e-mail services for non-essential communication, and using your own private, unsecure server for government communication. If an amateur hacker in Romania can gain access to that private server, then professional hackers can as well.

[apnu]

232. Yes I do know that.

And I'm not excusing breaking of regulations. What I'm talking about, from my experience, is human behavior when it comes to technology and how many human beings deal with regulations and technology. Doesn't excuse anything, I am simply defining where is comes from and why it happens.

Ignorance of the law, nor disagreement with the law, exempts us from the law. Hillary Clinton should not have done what she did.

[libdem4life]

183. Then there is this little issue called the Clinton Foundation. Just

by chance during the years they went from "broke" to fabuluosly rich. Just a coincidence, I'm sure. Not.

Now, back to the emails, especially those who were deemed "wiped". We just destroy evidence on a daily basis...no harm meant.

Follow the Money. Follow the emails. It will emerge.

[Karma13612]

184. Things could get very interesting, very soon. eom

[libdem4life]

186. What is really a bombshell to me is that this is a DC Court Federal Judge,

a Clinton appointee, upset with the State Department and calling it "very, very, very troubling."

If this were anyone but you know who, we'd be shaking in our boots abd behind bars, as most in the know have stated. Apparently she thinks the fix is in because Bill appointed him?

[onenote]

223. I'm curious. Do you know what Judge Sullivan was specifically referring to

when it used the phrase "very very troubling"?

Have you read the transcript of the February hearing (did you even know the "troubling" quote was from a hearing in February)?

[libdem4life]

241. I read it here and I'm sure you did too. And yes, it was pointed

out on DU that it was earlier this year. Anything else you were curious about?

[SharonClark]

189. Yawn.........uaaaah...

[raging moderate]

200. I wonder if Hillary Clinton thought she could outwit the internet spies.

Maybe confuse them by flying all over all the time, and keeping that Blackberry down the hall, and using different servers for different things, and so on? I am about her age, and I must admit I would have no idea what to do about any of this stuff. I would probably make some terrible mistakes if I tried to serve in any high position. For people our age, computers should be about the size of a small house, with tapes running and lights blinking on them, with a team of very short-haired men running around tending them the way bobbin tenders used to do in the old cloth factories.

And yes, I too believe the Millennials are very impressive, much better than our generation. Having worked in several school districts up and down the state of Illinois, I first noticed this bunch when they were about six years old, and I have been waiting for them to grow up.

PS Millennials: You will like the group coming after you, and you will find them to be able and willing partners.

[pdsimdars]

237. So, ya think that maybe if you got that job and didn't understand about all that

security stuff, well, maybe, just maybe, you might think that you should LISTEN TO WHAT THE GOVERNMENT SECURITY PEOPLE ARE TELLING YOU TO DO!
Or pay attention to that agreement you signed UNDER OATH!

She wasn't left out there on her own to figure out what she should do. She CONSCIOUSLY chose to IGNORE what she swore to do and IGNORE what they advised her to do. And left our NATIONAL SECURITY out there for anyone and everyone to see. I know, I know, it wasn't convenient. Poor Hillary.

Give us all a beak with this excuse making. She ignored everyone else because she thought she was smarter and knew better than EVERYONE else.

Did you know that company she gave her server to, Platte River, was a mom and pop operation, that didn't really know anything? They had never even had an out of state contract. They had NO security clearance and she knew she had the highest level of classified material on that server. They ran it from an apartment which didn't even have a security alarm. Yes, that's right, our critical NATIONAL SECURITY on a server in an apartment without even a security alarm.

That's the judgement some think should be leader of the free world? If anyone thinks that, they aren't really thinking IMHO.

[libodem]

216. Bernie

Stay the course!

[MrMickeysMom]

230. Some more embarrassments to Mrs. Clinton...

Barbara saying "Hello" to us after throwing kisses..

[pdsimdars]

234. As some have pointed out. . . she is fearing for her safety just like Hillary was fearing

while under sniper fire. Just Like That!

[pinskinny]

236. Oh the suspense, gonna be fun to watch this unfold.

[Lil Missy]

251. Nuff said ....