OMG - really Diane Feinstein? Wooboy. Diane is going under the bus.

[jillan]

Mark MurrayVerified account
?@mmurraypolitics
Sen. Feinstein tells @chucktodd it's important for public to hear from Hillary on emails. "The silence is going to hurt her."




She is the last person I would expect to hear this from.

[grasswire]

2. DiFi still ranking member of Senate Intelligence Committee

Maybe this comment is informed by something she knows.

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. See post 11

I agree

[KoKo]

33. This is interesting, from Dan Abram's LawNewz, that Depositions are going forward:

and this is Judge Emmet G. Sullivan who was appointed to his position by Bill Clinton.

--------------------

Former SOS Deputy Assistant Set to Testify in Clinton E-Mail Civil Lawsuit
by Chris White | LawNews, 11:24 am, May 18th, 2016

Depositions are set to begin this week and will continue well into the summer as part of a civil lawsuit concerning Hillary Clinton’s use of private e-mail server while serving as Secretary of State. Lewis Lukens, a former deputy assistant secretary of state, will be the first former Clinton aide to testify under oath when he appears for his deposition on Wednesday.

The deposition schedule was released late Tuesday by the conservative legal watchdog group Judicial Watch. Earlier this year, U.S. District Court Judge Emmet G. Sullivan entered an order that allows Judicial Watch to conduct discovery into whether the State Department and then Secretary of State Clinton deliberately thwarted Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) disclosure laws. The specific focus of the lawsuit is to obtain records about the employment status of Huma Abedin, former Deputy Chief of Staff to Clinton.

In addition to Lukens, at least five other top Clinton aides are expected to be questioned under oath by Judicial Watch attorneys in depositions over the next several weeks.

Clinton’s former Chief of Staff Cheryl Mills and Stephen D. Mull, executive secretary of the State Department from June 2009 to October 2012 are scheduled to be deposed next two weeks.

The man who is widely believed to have set up Clinton’s private e-mail, Bryan Pagliano, is scheduled to give testimony during the first week of June. Pagliano is the only Clinton aide publicly known to have received immunity from the Department of Justice in exchange for his cooperation in the FBI/DOJ investigation into the potential mishandling of classified materials. Last week, State Department officials announced they could not locate a single one of Pagliano’s e-mails from his time at the State Department. Several FOIA attorneys told LawNewz.com that revelation was highly suspicious.

Huma Abedin and State Department Undersecretary for Management Patrick F. Kennedy are scheduled to testify during the last week of June, according to the deposition schedule filed in the lawsuit.

“This court-order testimony could finally reveal new truths about how Hillary Clinton and the Obama State Department subverted the Freedom of the Information Act,” Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said in a statement released on Tuesday.

Continued at:
http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/former-aide-set-to-testify-on-wednesday-in-clinton-e-mail-civil-lawsuit/t

[FreakinDJ]

52. DiFi consistantly votes RATpubliCON on EVERY MAJOR Issue

She lost me when she cast the deciding vote on NAFTA

[libdem4life]

62. Rich as god. Hubby builds US Post Offices...pretty good gig, as well.

[grasswire]

91. there's some kind of messed up scandalous thing recently..

....I just tangentially saw without really understanding. Something about the U.S. selling off post office properties that are prime real estate in cities across the country. I suppose the beneficiary of this is her hubby.

[libdem4life]

92. It certainly is. It's well known in California, though like most things DiFi,

just barely whispered.

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. Well then

...

[grasswire]

4. Remember what the National Security Council is?

17 members. POTUS, VP, secretaries, heads of Intel agencies, etc.

Yesterday I read that their discussion of this matter could pose a threat to HRC.

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. Hmm

And changing, like on a dime media narratives. Something is up

[grasswire]

8. Nadin, I just realized...

...the massive mess that will happen if HRC top tier Democratic supporters have to start deciding whether or not to withdraw their support from her. Lordy lordy, what a GIANT mess this could be very soon.

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. Oh it could be fun

You don't get a first row seat to history often. Take notes. It will be epic

[AgerolanAmerican]

26. the I-told-you-sos will be epic too

Even merely on what is publicly known, anyone else would be looking at a double-digit jail term.

The interviews of her aides are the kind of thing the FBI does at the end of an investigation, so that those interviews happened indicated that the end of the investigation was coming soon.

There's simply no way the FBI could keep any credibility whatsoever if it did not recommend indictments for serious felonies in this case. She's made fools of them before, and no doubt longstanding FBI employees remember it.

[Tavarious Jackson]

19. No mess. Delegated get released to Biden

[jillan]

21. I love Biden but if they do that, all hell will break loose. 10 million people will take

to the streets if that happens.

[Tavarious Jackson]

24. Why? It's in the rules

Party rules. I think people need to be educated on Party rules.

[jillan]

25. I think people need to be educated that there is another candidate in the primary that has

10 million more votes than Joe Biden.

Disenfranchising those voters and supporters will not end well.

[Tavarious Jackson]

27. I think they should have known nt

[Tavarious Jackson]

28. Why is it always about you and Bernie people?

What about us? We don't want Bernie. Hillary has more votes and delegates. Should something happen we want those to go to Biden. Why do you think your feelings matter more than ours? Don't you think if it went to Bernie we would riot and be upset?

[Karma13612]

29. Excuse me. What about all the voters

Who voted FOR Clinton, but don't want their vote to suddenly go to Biden?????

You are making some pretty big assumptions about fellow Clinton voters.

A lot of voters voted for Clinton because they want a 'First Female President'.

How would they feel if another old white guy just gets substituted in her place?

And there are a lot of voters that are unaware of these 'DNC' rules that say they can just substitute one candidate for another.

I'm a Bernie supporter and still think this is wrong.

[Bluenorthwest]

35. If your candidate beomes disqualified that also rather dings her cohort, what they wanted was

not electable so what they want next is not really going to be a concern. 'I'm the guy who drove you over the cliff, now let me take the wheel again' is not going to fly.

[reddread]

40. you dont scare us, unless you get the say so's on illegal invasions.

[timmymoff]

44. what about you?

we should align with the sell out corporate wing of the democratic party. Yes sell outs.. sell out to fracking, sell out to regime change, sell out to wall st. sell out to not fighting for minimum wage, sell out to not fighting for single payer, sell out to keystone, sell out to TPP ..you're sell outs.. kind of like being a snitch, not many want to talk to you afterwards

[Tavarious Jackson]

47. We've won.

Literally we have won. You can vote who you want to but Hillary is the nominee. Convention fight or not. It won't change it

[floriduck]

55. I missed those headlines. Does she now have enough pledged delegates?

Or are you suffering from indictment illusion?

[notadmblnd]

60. nah, that would never happen

Rioting by HRC supporters would take some effort and we all know Hillary supporters don't anything that is not easy.

No! We Cant!

[grasswire]

99. might mess up the coifs, ya know. nt

[libdem4life]

65. Very simple. This political season is less about politics than it is about

money, the getting of, the using of, the rigged nature of. It's the Establishment Haves vs. The Formerly Silent Have Nots. Biden is a well-known nice guy, but a political loser. I'd bet he wouldn't take that hit, even for the party he loves so well. Hhis first foray into this season ended with a whimper.

If this happens, the Party as Establishment Picker of Candidates, aka DWS, is theroetically shut out, IMO.

Again, this is a first, but it would almost have to be Bernie.

[Trajan]

80. You?

You don't exist ... Gone

(EDIT: Ah ! ... A Brockpuppet I see? .. Not anymore )

[Schema Thing]

90. hush. Bernie gets it.

[morningfog]

48. Please cite and link to the relevant rules.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

63. Seconded. nt

[libdem4life]

67. Thirded...See post 65.

[2banon]

61. Party Rules. That's an interesting Rule. The VP of a previous admin is automatically

appointed as the party nominee for the next admin?



I never knew that. I've been registered with the Democratic Party since forever, and I never knew that. You're right, people ought to know the Party Rules.

I wonder if the Democratic Party Rules is pinned somewhere on DU?

[ChisolmTrailDem]

64. Please cite and link to the relevant rules.

[libdem4life]

66. Where in the rules? I have no idea...it's an honest question.

Where does it lead one to believe that HRC can hand over all of her delegates (perhaps against their will) to Biden? Even if were willing, which I doubt.

Please, educate me/us.

[HooptieWagon]

73. Bullshit.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

68. Biden had his chance to run... too late now. Else it's gonna get ugly... and rightfully so!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[morningfog]

49. Are you sure? Which rule provides for a candidate releasing their pledged delegates to vote for

a specific non-candidate?

[frylock]

86. If that happens, the 2016 convention will make '68 look like a trip to Disneyland.

[morningfog]

103. Still waiting on those rules, buddy.

[arikara]

107. If the establishment ever went against her

why would she do what the establishment wants and release them to Biden?

[grasswire]

7. and I wonder what Chuck Todd said before and after. nt

The fact that she was talking to Chuck Todd is, in itself, pretty significant.

[jillan]

15. And that Mark Murray is tweeting about it - woah! He is not one to ruffle feathers. He's not

a "news maker".

[Skwmom]

10. I think they'd much rather talk about emails than the Clinton Foundation and all the money Bill and

Hillary made.

[nadinbrzezinski]

11. Emails could be going there

Feinstein has gone from the ghost of Conventions past, to the ghost of servers present. And the media did pivot about five minutes later.

[libdem4life]

59. She is being surrounded by her actions. Apparently, the emails understandably

refer to the former scandals, the methods to circumvent, and to the Foundation. Indeed, these are new connections that have not been "vetted" and having Huma Abedin as the first, after the immunity of Pagliani...that's pretty much the top of her own "email security" detail.

Much has been touted about Cheryl Mills being an attorney...which, of course, makes bobbing and weaving much more likely. But Abedin and Pagliana, I dont believe are or have those learned skills.

I just wish it wasn't Abedin. First she had to deal with a sleazy husband, now she's again on the hot seat for her choice in employers. But I'm sure she's more than sympathetic for an employer (HRC) who's in arguably the same situation...substitute employers for employees.

Di Fi likely talked to Boxer. Maybe she's awakening to the groundswell of impatience and potential harm to the party. As much as they may like HRC, they are very smart and being California Primary is coming up, need to cover some bases. Again, they have inside information we don't have.

[XemaSab]

13. Mmmm... so tasty!

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. I should not get any more

But indeed

[jillan]

16. Might need something cold to wash all that popcorn down.

[VulgarPoet]

32. Corona and lime, you have /impeccable/ taste.

[Tavarious Jackson]

18. Clinton will not be indicted

But IF she is.. insiders have already said she would release her delagates to Joe Biden B4 convention and if after convention Joe Biden. She can release delegates to who she wants.

[Bluenorthwest]

36. The way her boosters have behaved on DU lately indicates troubled waters ahead.

So dig this. I'd not vote for a candidate selected by an indicted former candidate whom I never supported for the office. Because that is not at all democratic.

[onecaliberal]

82. ^^THAT^^ And IMO, shit is going to get thick if they even try that.

Biden ran for POTUS at least twice before, if he was that popular he'd have already won the office.

[Art_from_Ark]

106. To be fair to Biden, the first time he ran, in 1988,

he got a bum rap by "plagiarizing" a speech by British MP Neil Kinnock. He had actually attributed the source of the speech before, but failed to attribute it on one occasion and was nailed for it. But the last time he ran (2008), yeah, he couldn't generate a whole lot of enthusiasm.

[DianaForRussFeingold]

20. Ouch! I thought she was a friend.

You would think she would call her or something.

or send a 'how-to video'

[jillan]

22. She was one that was screaming the loudest at Bernie just yesterday. Hmmmm.

[delrem]

23. Doesn't matter. The FBI will interview her regardless.

It isn't up to Hillary Clinton.

It isn't something that Diane Feinstein can run interference on, either.

My guess is that the statement means that they've agreed on a a story.
On a presentation consistent with the coming election.

Kinda like they've agreed on how they're going to handle the upcoming convention: spread the meme that Sanders and supporters are "violent", are intending violence. Meantime, the fuckers are courting Jeb! and more importantly, Jeb!'s donors.

Diane Feinstein is no friend of truth and openness.

[libdem4life]

69. Truth. Diane is running interference to blunt the impact on the

California primary voters. I'm wondering if she and/or Boxer are Superdelegates.

[HooptieWagon]

75. Yes, they would be.

Past presidents and VPs, current Senators, Representatives, and Governors. State Party officials (who may or may not hold local and state elected office).

[libdem4life]

78. Thanks. That's what I thought likely.

[silvershadow]

30. omg. and i agree with your comments. she must be off her meds...

[aspirant]

31. "silence is going to hurt her"

because her aides voices are going to be made public. No more propaganda spin when one by one the under oath testimony will soon paint the reality.

What's going on behind closed doors now is pure panic.

[ozone_man]

104. I hope so!

The fight against corruption can include strange bed fellows, DiFi included.

[Waiting For Everyman]

34. In other words, DiFi won't stand next to HRC in the coming shitstorm.

They had all better get their rubber raincoats on.

[PufPuf23]

37. Something is up for DiFi to say "The silence is going to hurt her."

For all the times I have voted for DiFi in no way do I trust her.

If something of substance happens to Hillary Clinton, the Democratic party will attempt to replace Clinton with a like candidate rather than replace Clinton with Sanders.

The email situation is gaining substance.

While the private server was wrong, I have always held the thought that there were items in the emails with more gravitas.

[HooptieWagon]

77. The establishment will attempt to replace Clinton with another corporatist.

But I think that will cause an outright riot that will split the party down the middle.

[PufPuf23]

79. That is what I have been saying for some time at DU

That if something was to derail Clinton, the DNC and party establishment would come up with someone other than Sanders.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2004977

"I have long thought that should anything derail Clinton the DNC and Democratic party establishment would look for another neo-liberal establishment Democrat rather than continue with Sanders.

We may be seeing this play out."

time stamp: Thu May 19, 2016, 10:17 AM

===============================

But I have posted that on occasion for maybe as long as 6 weeks.

As they say, great minds think alike.

The party is already split down the middle and this may turn out to be creatively good.

I think the thug and Sanders supporters are violent is leading up to a busting of heads ala Chicago 1968 or at least a warning now.

[FlatBaroque]

38. I understand we live in the DU Twilight Zone now, but why would post 17 be hidden?

It should be an OP

[KoKo]

39. It already was....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511995605

[jillan]

41. Some people think that because it comes from a rw site it's not true or doesn't matter.

95% of the time that is true.

This is in the 5% and it very much matters.

[JRLeft]

42. She's my Senator, but she has no credibility. She's a far bigger corporatist than Hillary ever was.

[RufusTFirefly]

54. Yes. Those who make the risible claim that Hillary is progressive...

... must be comparing her to DINO DiFi.

[JRLeft]

56. Right, Senator Bechtel was republican lite before it was a term.

[lumberjack_jeff]

43. No Diane, the silence doesn't hurt her as much as the truth would. Thus the silence. n/t

[SQUEE]

45. This is over 2 months old.

This is not the OMG!, what a "pivot" many here are making it out to be.


From NBC News,
http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/sen-feinstein-clinton-emails-silence-going-hurt-her-n319491

MAR 8 2015

[pmorlan1]

81. Thank you

for posting this information.

[lagomorph777]

46. The feces are finally hitting the fan.

This is an emergency.

California, please save us.

[The Second Stone]

50. After Lieberman left the Senate, she has been taking up his slack

with right wing positions. She is a reliable for on a close call, but there is no police state position she will not initially support. I wish it were she, and not Boxer, who was retiring.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

51. Hillary's CYA writers have their work cut out for them. "mistake"? "forgot'? "bad advice"?

Or, the always reliable, "subordinates fault".

[merrily]

53. If Feinstein is saying this, it's because the Hillary campaign wants her to.

Feinstein does not communicate with Hillary through Chuck Todd while crossing her fingers that word will get back to Hillary.

Feinstein communicates with the general public through Chuck Todd and the general public does not Feinstein to tell them what is actually important to them, so why is she telling them? She is telling them to convince them it's important to them to hear from Hillary. And once the American public is convinced of that, I suspect this means the American public will be hearing from Hillary.

[2banon]

57. Well, THAT's interesting. To say I'm SHOCKED would be an understatement!

Rather! Not to put too fine a point on it:

[Tarc]

58. Dear Bernie Sanders fans; Please click for a lesson in how to express disagreement

"Senator Feinstein, I respect your concern but I disagree with the importance of Emailgate, and with the need for Hillary to say more than she has said on the matter already."

You see that? I didn't call her at 3am with threats, solicit angry dudes to slam her Facebook, or start a trending, witty hashtag. I didn't call for her to be primaried. I didn't even throw a chair.

Adulting; yes, it can be a verb.

[SwampG8r]

70. Good job you didn't shoot up a campaign headquarters or punch a supporter in the mouth either

[libdem4life]

71. So it Pretzeling. Twisting around and around, baked for firmness,

then salted for added flavor. Better than popcorn.

Oh, and that tidbit about DiFi...she doesn't give a flying rip what anyone thinks who does not support her. She proven that over and over and over ad nauseum.

[JudyM]

74. Look who's presuming to "school" anyone on decorum and civility!

[Tarc]

87. Says the supporterof the chair-throwing, riot-inciting, building-vandalizing doxxers?

Yea, give yourself a hand there.

[JudyM]

89. Oh yes, the phantom chair. While actual physical violence against Bernie's office and his team's

living quarters never happened.

Catch up with the truth that's been subsequently reported, would ya?

[Tarc]

95. BUT TEACHER HE HIT ME FIRST!

Excuses you used in 2nd grade don't carry over to real life.

[JudyM]

96. Um. No. You are either incapable or uninterested in distinguishing FACT from fiction.

I expect the latter. Meaning your problem here is not intellect, but integrity.

[libdem4life]

98. Oh my, all CAPS...must be important and college level information.

And having been a 2nd grade teacher (and a Kindergarten, 1st and 3rd grade), you can't believe the similarities I see on here many times a day. Sorry.

The grown up equivalent to "the dog ate my homework" is "somebody wiped the server of 30,000 emails"

LOL

[arikara]

108. Give it up

That lie has already been debunked.

[Lizzie Poppet]

72. Wow...I'm surprised (and pleased).

Sen. Feinstein realizes what a weapon that will be for the Trump campaign, regardless of how the investigation falls out.

[Actor]

76. This sure does excite you.

[tularetom]

83. I think this is bogus

First of all I do not trust Feinstein as far as I could throw her. She's saying this now so when Hillary comes out with her latest excuse, she (Feinstein) can pretend to be satisfied that the matter is closed.

Secondly, I trust Clinton even less than I trust Feinstein. She can pretend to be reluctant to talk about this because she doesn't want to feed her subordinates to the wolves. Then, when she actually throws them to the wolves, she can pretend that she was forced to do so by public opinion.

The problem is there are a lot of unknown knowns here. Nobody knows what the FBI has uncovered, both as regards the security of the server, and what the emails reveal about the connections between the State Department, private contractors, foreign governments and the Clinton foundation.

The DNC is taking a lot on faith now because they really have no choice. As time wears on, nerves will fray, the pressure will increase and somebody will break. The longer the process drags on, the worse the ultimate result will be for Clinton, the DNC, and maybe for America.

[libdem4life]

100. Fienstein does not breathe without a reason. She and Boxer are trying

their hardest to soften the HRC/California/SBS Primary. You bet she knows what is going on, or she wouldn't say a peep.

[NWCorona]

84. Kicking it!

[Jitter65]

85. They already heard from her on the e-mails. WTF?

[frylock]

88. Delicious.

[Todays_Illusion]

93. Diane Feinstein is retiring at the end of this term, so is Barbara Boxer. A contrast, yes?

[litlbilly]

94. Something is up, and its not good for camp weathervain. mmm

[KoKo]

102. Yes...Giving False Info--Judge Ok's Deposition Plan On FOIA/Private Server!

Judge OKs deposition plan in Hillary Clinton email case

By Josh Gerstein--Politico

Updated 05/04/16 07:35 PM EDT

A federal judge has approved a plan to take sworn testimony from former aides to Hillary Clinton about her use of a private email server during her tenure as secretary of state.

U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan issued an order Wednesday approving the discovery plan, which was agreed to by the State Department and Judicial Watch, a conservative group that demanded Clinton's emails under the Freedom of Information Act.

"The circumstances surrounding approval of Mrs. Clinton’s use of clintonemail.com for official government business, as well as the manner in which it was operated, are issues that need to be explored in discovery to enable the Court to resolve, as a matter of law, the adequacy of the State Department’s search of relevant records in response to Judicial Watch’s FOIA request," Sullivan wrote in his 15-page order.

Sullivan's order explicitly left open the question of whether Clinton should be subject to a deposition about the private email arrangement. The order calls for depositions over the next eight weeks of former Clinton chief of staff Cheryl Mills, former deputy chief of staff Huma Abedin and former information technology specialist Bryan Pagliano. Also slated to be deposed under the plan are Undersecretary of State for Management Patrick Kennedy, former executive secretary Stephen Mull and former Executive Secretariat executive director Lewis Lukens.

The eight-week period to complete the depositions will conclude in late June. That timing has the potential to tee up a debate about a possible deposition of Clinton just a few weeks before she is expected to receive the Democratic nomination for president at the party's national convention in Philadelphia.
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"Judicial Watch raises significant questions in its Motion for Discovery about whether the State Department processed documents in good faith in response to Judicial Watch's FOIA request. Judicial Watch is therefore entitled to limited discovery," the judge wrote.

"Critical facts related to the clintonemail.com server preclude a legal analysis, at this time, of whether the State Department conducted an adequate search under FOIA," Sullivan wrote at another point in his order.

The judge noted that Clinton and Abedin turned over to the State Department messages from the accounts each maintained on Clinton's server. However, he pointed out that the former officials decided what to make available.

"Notably, the process by which the State Department took possession of Mrs. Clinton and Ms. Abedin’s federal records from the clintonemail.com server was through self-selection by Mrs. Clinton, Ms. Abedin, Ms. Mills and their private counsel," wrote Sullivan, who was appointed by President Bill Clinton.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/hillary-clinton-email-deposition-plan-222801

[Uncle Joe]

97. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, jillan.

[grasswire]

101. why was post #17 hidden???

The info has been posted several other place on DU.

[Octafish]

105. There must be some fire under the smoke.

Bob BFEE Gates brought up his concerns, publicly, over the past few days, too.

These are the interesting times somebody or other warned us we'd live in.