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When this is all over... (Original Post) GoldenThunder May 2016 OP
Be sure to stand safely away as you watch dejectedly from the sideline DrDan May 2016 #1
In all my life... GoldenThunder May 2016 #2
The base is why Clinton has won. NCTraveler May 2016 #14
Millions of hard working Americans. GoldenThunder May 2016 #15
You did not define the base in any meaningful way. NCTraveler May 2016 #17
Well I am sure Demsrule86 May 2016 #31
Clinton Wins, America Looses, Thanks to Hillary we get Trump bahrbearian May 2016 #16
I understand you are working with impressive crystal balls. NCTraveler May 2016 #19
Not losing primary "big time". That award goes to OMalley. aikoaiko May 2016 #25
Yes, it is. Hundreds of delegates and millions of votes. Big time. NCTraveler May 2016 #45
Bernie gave us Trump Demsrule86 May 2016 #32
how the hell did Bernie do that? Exilednight May 2016 #33
So even you admit... GoldenThunder May 2016 #35
You realize that nearly 50% of the party has voted for the the other guy? Ash_F May 2016 #23
In all my life I have never seen DrDan May 2016 #30
Better to be watching from the sideline than crashing into the water from the burning bridge Armstead May 2016 #12
Agree! Katashi_itto May 2016 #26
I think it's more like Bernie supporters light a torch to the bridge and then blame others boston bean May 2016 #3
They're perpetual victims. grossproffit May 2016 #5
gee sounds like someone else's use of language Armstead May 2016 #13
To quote BS supporters "A broken clock is right twice a day." grossproffit May 2016 #18
Here's a victim Ash_F May 2016 #24
... HumanityExperiment May 2016 #10
Not even close Demsrule86 May 2016 #34
Close... HumanityExperiment May 2016 #44
They're Bern Victims; people who listen to fantasy and ooze hateful actions because they're desperat uponit7771 May 2016 #41
More delusions of grandeur. grossproffit May 2016 #4
When all of those "Too Big to Fail" banks in Hillary's corner finally catastrophically collapse... GoldenThunder May 2016 #9
But But, Dodd- Frank ,Dodd-Frank That'll protect us , We can always breakup the banks later. bahrbearian May 2016 #20
BoB sucks workinclasszero May 2016 #6
Trump loves the fact... GoldenThunder May 2016 #7
Welcome to ignore workinclasszero May 2016 #11
Call it Skinner! bahrbearian May 2016 #21
Good luck. GoldenThunder May 2016 #27
Yeah it will be a shitstorm Demsrule86 May 2016 #36
That's why he's trying to convince leftynyc May 2016 #22
Your powers of prognostication are risible. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #39
No Trump doesn't in fact Trump's folks have told me that the deciding not to vote, voting 3rd party azurnoir May 2016 #43
Hillary is not the one who is berning the bridge. Arkansas Granny May 2016 #8
You're wrong about that. TDale313 May 2016 #28
I asume by disrespect you mean Demsrule86 May 2016 #38
+1 uponit7771 May 2016 #42
Sorry Demsrule86 May 2016 #29
no it's you clinton sypporters who don't care Robbins May 2016 #37
This sums it all up quite nicely. GoldenThunder May 2016 #40

GoldenThunder

(300 posts)
2. In all my life...
Thu May 19, 2016, 08:37 AM
May 2016

...I've never witnessed a campaign so willing and eager to alienate it's own base that the 2016 Clinton campaign.. Those disaffected and alienated are going to play a ar larger role in the GE than Hillary's firewall in the Confederacy.

GoldenThunder

(300 posts)
15. Millions of hard working Americans.
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:09 AM
May 2016

Who believe in a living wage for a full-time job. A fair and just legal system. A foreign policy that's more diplomatic, less "We came, we saw, HE DIED". And who hold fast to the principle which is taken for granted everywhere else in the developed world, that health care is a human right.

It is also a group you may no longer take for granted.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
17. You did not define the base in any meaningful way.
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:11 AM
May 2016

The base is why Clinton is winning. She has a better message for minorities and women.

Again, who are you defining as the Democratic Party base? White male independents?

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
31. Well I am sure
Thu May 19, 2016, 10:05 AM
May 2016

that Trump will provide all those things...plus wonderful court picks...indeed. (sarcasm)

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
19. I understand you are working with impressive crystal balls.
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:13 AM
May 2016

Sanders is losing the primary big time. Must be easy to just make wild speculative claims.

aikoaiko

(34,165 posts)
25. Not losing primary "big time". That award goes to OMalley.
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:22 AM
May 2016


Bernie is still garnering 40 - 45% of the votes and delegates. That's not a big time loss.
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
45. Yes, it is. Hundreds of delegates and millions of votes. Big time.
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:21 AM
May 2016

Clearly that goes for O'Malley as well. I wish he was still around. He had his best showing in KY.

GoldenThunder

(300 posts)
35. So even you admit...
Thu May 19, 2016, 10:08 AM
May 2016

...Hillary has no chance against Herr Donald. YOU made the wrong choice. This disaster is fully YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
30. In all my life I have never seen
Thu May 19, 2016, 10:05 AM
May 2016

A group so concerned about what they will or will not get frim a candidate

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
12. Better to be watching from the sideline than crashing into the water from the burning bridge
Thu May 19, 2016, 08:53 AM
May 2016

boston bean

(36,220 posts)
3. I think it's more like Bernie supporters light a torch to the bridge and then blame others
Thu May 19, 2016, 08:38 AM
May 2016

for them getting berned.

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
10. ...
Thu May 19, 2016, 08:52 AM
May 2016

Torch = progressive / liberal ideology

Bridge = Establishment corporatist DEMs and leadership

If HRC and her supporters can't wrap their head around closing the primaries out in the weakest of campaign matchups, that's on them and their candidate.... BLAME INDEED... look in the mirror

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
44. Close...
Thu May 19, 2016, 10:37 AM
May 2016

so close you're standing on the X on that bridge with the flames raging around ya

'St. Bernie lost...now let the tantrums begin...spite and selfishness'

OPs post... '...I sincerely hope that those who are running Hillary's campaign learn this valuable lesson: When you go ahead and burn that bridge, make sure you're actually off of that bridge first.'

'nuff said, thx for playin'

uponit7771

(90,323 posts)
41. They're Bern Victims; people who listen to fantasy and ooze hateful actions because they're desperat
Thu May 19, 2016, 10:28 AM
May 2016

GoldenThunder

(300 posts)
9. When all of those "Too Big to Fail" banks in Hillary's corner finally catastrophically collapse...
Thu May 19, 2016, 08:51 AM
May 2016

...all at once. You'll be begging for the good ol' days when it was only a cranky old Senator and his ragtag bunch of misfits who were rattling your cage.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
11. Welcome to ignore
Thu May 19, 2016, 08:52 AM
May 2016

If I want to read republican propaganda Ill go to freakrepublic and cut out the hypocrisy.

Bye-bye

GoldenThunder

(300 posts)
27. Good luck.
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:30 AM
May 2016

I hope you will do just as well a job of ignoring the cataclysm of a collapsing economy embedded within a collapsing empire embedded within a collapsing ecosystem.

It's hard to fight for that last bottle of clean water with your fingers glued inside your ears.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
22. That's why he's trying to convince
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:17 AM
May 2016

Bernie to run as an Indy - because he's so sure he can beat Hillary. Do you even hear yourself sounding so ridiculous?

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-bernie-sanders-independent-2016-5

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
39. Your powers of prognostication are risible.
Thu May 19, 2016, 10:11 AM
May 2016
Trump loves the fact...

...that Hillary can't beat him.


Your powers of prognostication are risible.


My current odds for tonight.

Hey, I work in a casino. Why not place a few betting lines?

FLORIDA Clinton by 13.5%

ILLINOIS Clinton by 4.8%

MISSOURI Sanders by 7.2%

NORTH CAROLINA Clinton by 9.5%

OHIO Sanders by 3.0%


Let's see how I stack up against the pros.


PS: For entertainment purposes only. Neither DU nor the DNC condones gambling. It does keep a roof over my head, though.

-Golden Thunder

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511493757



Two wrong winners and lines that weren't even close.


Let's see how I stack up against the pros.

-Golden Thunder


Not well.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
43. No Trump doesn't in fact Trump's folks have told me that the deciding not to vote, voting 3rd party
Thu May 19, 2016, 10:35 AM
May 2016

or being a BoB is the exact same as a vote for Hillary - seriously I hadn't laughed that hard in days

eta if anyone want to claim I support Trump it's like this there are unfortunately Trump supporters in my extended family

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
28. You're wrong about that.
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:37 AM
May 2016

She and her supporters most certainly are. And here's the truth: they need us in November. They have fanned the flames rather than trying to put them out or diffuse the situation. They keep doing shit the reinforces the Bernie supporters impression that they're rigging this process and have total distain for the nearly half the party that supports him and his policies even when they don't have to.

Yeah, Bernie supporters are pissed. And they have good reason. And if you think continuing to dismiss and disrespect and smear them is a winning strategy you're just wrong. The party is going to need to adapt or it will die. You guys have far more to win by being a little gracious in victory and more to lose in the long run by antagonizing the Sanders wing of the party. Oh, and btw- she will most likely win the nomination but we're not going away and this struggle for the direction of the country and party does not end in July or November. We're in it for the long haul.

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
29. Sorry
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:59 AM
May 2016

You think destroying the election for Democrats by being spiteful and angry will hurt us...shows your complete selfish nous...you and Bernie don't care a bit about the millions you will hurt if Trump becomes president...so spare me your preachy BS. How you just can't bring yourself to vote for Hillary but...left unsaid...Trump is just fine with you...I grew up in Connecticut. My Dad worked in the same circle as Trump did and he is a piece of shite. Bernie's supporters and Bernie the candidate seriously make me want to heave. I sincere hope that every Bernie supporter who doesn't vote or votes for Trump...or Stein (same thing) suffers doubly under Trump, you earned it...as for Bernie...I hope never to see his face again politically speaking. I am a liberal and would be very interested starting with state elections ...grassroots working to pull the party left. But I would never be involved with anything that has anything to do with Bernie...besides if Trump gets in, why would I waste my time...with all the court picks there can be no progressive revolution. Thanks Bernie for what the so-called indies always provide in real achievements...nothing.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
37. no it's you clinton sypporters who don't care
Thu May 19, 2016, 10:10 AM
May 2016

about the people.myself and many americans will be screwed by republicans and corporate dems alike.

Clintons can go to hell for all I care.i hate them as much as i do republicans.

you calim to be liberal but like clinton supporters you are fine with moving to the right as long as she wins.

Untill 2016 the clintons were best buddys with trump.so spare me your attacks.

your own candiate says she doesn't need us bernie supporters so it shouldn't matter if we stay home on election day.

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