Hillary and Bernie Need to Come Together

[firebrand80]

Not their campaign employees, surrogates, online warriors or rank-and-file supporters, but the two people themselves. Bernie should tell her exactly what he wants, and Hillary should (for the most part) give it to him. Bernie needs to come out and tell people to stop with the threats, and Hillary needs to tell the too-clever-by-half career party hacks to stop trying to "help" her and show a bit of graciousness.

If I were in charge, I would have just given Bernie the extra delegate in NV. Seriously, who the hell cares? Do you want to win the battle of one meaningless delegate at the expense of losing the war in November?

Most of the party divide has been pretty benign, IMO, up until recently. I think most of the responsibility lies with Hillary. She's going to be in the ballot in the fall, it's in her best interest to show some leadership and put this shit to bed.

[beachbum bob]

1. sanders has a greater responsibility as its been him fanning the flames to

"take it to the convention"...sanders and his people dont care about rules...and not rely on threats and intimidation for any chance to force super delegates ......and I am afraid many of us suspected that sanders is in fact a very weak leader are being proved right everyday.....even if he wants to, I don't see how he controls the mob he has created and we will witness the most chaotic convention since 1968.....unless we have some miracles happen. I don't hold my breath for miracles.


an angry socialist may be getting his wish in taking down our party and our country

[firebrand80]

5. Hillary has everything to lose

This is her party, she has to take the leadership role. This isn't about which side is "right," this is about doing what needs to be done.

[Fumesucker]

10. Fear the mob, fear the common people, they don't know what's best for themselves

They need to be lead by wiser and more mature heads who only have their best interests at heart.

[bigwillq]

2. They will

It's very likely they will

[Arkansas Granny]

3. Hillary is not in charge of the Nevada primaries, for one thing. For another, coming together would

involve both candidates and Bernie is not showing any indication that he is willing to do so.

From the NY Times:

While Mr. Sanders says he does not want Mr. Trump to win in November, his advisers and allies say he is willing to do some harm to Mrs. Clinton in the shorter term if it means he can capture a majority of the 475 pledged delegates at stake in California and arrive at the Philadelphia convention with maximum political power.

Tad Devine, a senior adviser to Mr. Sanders, said the campaign did not think its attacks would help Mr. Trump in the long run, but added that the senator’s team was “not thinking about” the possibility that they could help derail Mrs. Clinton from becoming the first woman elected president.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/19/us/politics/bernie-sanderss-campaign-accuses-head-of-dnc-of-favoritism.html?_r=0

Bernie has to realize by now that there is no path to nomination for him, even if he won California (current polls show Hillary leading by nearly 10 points), but it won't stop him from taking Hillary down with him. He is clearly not a team player.

[firebrand80]

6. She's not technically in charge

but she could assert significant influence if she chose to do so.

Coming together would take willingness on Bernie's side, but Hillary needs to take the leadership role. Pointing the finger at Bernie and telling him what he "should do" isn't going to solve the problem.

[mmonk]

4. They will to some extent but it will be ruined in some manner

if the convention is ham-fisted.

[workinclasszero]

7. Bernie Sanders, Eyeing Convention, Willing to Harm Hillary Clinton in the Homestretch

Bernie Sanders, Eyeing Convention, Willing to Harm Hillary Clinton in the Homestretch
By PATRICK HEALY, YAMICHE ALCINDOR and JEREMY W. PETERSMAY 18, 2016

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/19/us/politics/bernie-sanderss-campaign-accuses-head-of-dnc-of-favoritism.html

[frylock]

12. I'll HARM you!

How DARE Bernie contrast himself with Hillary.

[workinclasszero]

13. Is that a joke or a threat?

I'll wait.

[frylock]

14. Are you fucking shitting me?

[workinclasszero]

15. Jeez nevermind

Why did I ever take you off of ignore?

Later

[Cheese Sandwich]

8. Too soon. They have to fight until the election is over.

Nevada was not about the one or two delegates. It was about whether a grassroots group would be allowed to use the Democratic Party as a vehicle for their movement. Would they be allowed to practice democracy inside the Democratic Party? Or would they be blocked? And we got our answer.

[firebrand80]

9. Both sides realize that it's going to the end

I'm not saying they should come together and end the primary, but they need to find away to stop the nastiness.

[Jester Messiah]

11. How could Bernie trust her to keep her word?

She'd "evolve" the moment she stepped out of the room.