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Pew Research Center analysis: Media Coverage Tips In Romney's Favor Post-Debate (Original Post) Welcome_hubby Nov 2012 OP
That definitely was a turning point, we can't deny that. gateley Nov 2012 #1
Of course. The media made it the turning point. Drunken Irishman Nov 2012 #3
Yep. It was all their fault. gateley Nov 2012 #4
I never said that...but they played a huge role in it. Drunken Irishman Nov 2012 #5
You're right in that they didn't give any weight to Romney's lies -- and that should have been gateley Nov 2012 #7
Just remember the Media with the "Dean Scream" AZ Progressive Nov 2012 #6
I'm glad we had Pew around to tell me that. RandySF Nov 2012 #2
 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
5. I never said that...but they played a huge role in it.
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 02:20 AM
Nov 2012

They set the narrative ... they get to tell you what happened. Did Obama do poorly? Yeah. Was he bad? No. Instead of focusing on the fact Romney did a 180 ... and lied throughout the whole debate, the media decided to focus on the lethargic Obama and made it out to be the game changer they wanted.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
7. You're right in that they didn't give any weight to Romney's lies -- and that should have been
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 12:52 PM
Nov 2012

a BIG part of the story. I honestly wonder if they were as surprised by Obama's "performance” as we were (or at least I was). There were such high expectations -- probably too high -- and watching Obama seemingly just standing there and taking it was almost surreal. Again, of course, that's my perspective.

In addition to the media, though, I think those who are anti-Obama and were grudgingly resigned to voting for Romney were given an infusion of excitement. He didn't seem as stupid as he'd been portrayed all these YEARS when he was running and losing, and they may have felt wow, maybe he's not so bad after all, maybe I can actually feel good about voting for him. So instead of just an an Anybody But Obama attitude, it became Pro Romney.

I'd watched a debate between Romney and Ted Kennedy, and I was shocked by how well Romney came across. If I hadn't known what he was saying was all bullshit, I wouldn't have thought he was the despicable liar we know him to be.

And as we know, the vast majority of Americans aren't wonks and don't know all the shit that we do. They base their information on perception and headlines and what a friend tells them. They fell for the act.

What I find interesting is that everybody kept saying that the debates don't really matter, yet all we remember from the Kennedy Nixon debate is that it played a big part in Nixon's loss because he came across so poorly.

By the time Joe stopped the bleeding, followed by those STELLAR subsequent debates by Obama, the fire had been lit in the bosoms of closet racists across the nation.

IMO, natch.


AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
6. Just remember the Media with the "Dean Scream"
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 02:30 AM
Nov 2012

The media made an issue out of nothing with Howard Dean's "Dean Scream" in 2004 and basically fabricated a scandal just to destroy Howard Dean. From that point I learned that the Media pretty much selects the candidates and possibly even the president. From what I saw in 2008, the Media was pretty favorable toward Obama during the 2008 election, and I even remember hearing quotes when Obama was inaugarated that the "honeymoon was over" with the news media.

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