2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumStealing elections is sickening, and hiring people to lie about it is disgusting
All of the outrage about Bernie supporters being upset when their votes are stolen is absurd!
We are the ones that have a right to be outraged that our elections are being stolen.
madokie
(51,076 posts)riversedge
(70,204 posts)outrage until--if-or when there is credible proof. Until then your OP's look foolish.
J_J_
(1,213 posts)You are not succeeding in convincing anyone, only making us realize just how corrupt Hillary is and how low she will go.
felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)of falling for their shit again.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)I have worked seriously on this issue for 14 years now. Many cannot handle it. I had to realize several years ago, that I had become 'desensitized' to this issue, and could just talk about it like, cooking.
I remembered when I first learned, and was privileged to see what can be done...so many things within the software. When it was stolen from John Kerry for Bush again, I had to learn. I remember the first moment, I was in a fetal position in a corner of my home. No one could do anything, I couldn't even speak. I had PTSD for sure. I was so sick all over to learn, and to be shown, as I was a high staffer, won't say where. To learn our country would/could do such a thing, made everything I learned from my parents and in our education system regarding our wonderful country, a BIG FAT LIE.
So, when I read the naysayers here, I realize they were kids 14 years ago, many of them. Of course they don't believe it. I never would have either. And you cannot push, for to believe this will absolutely shake the foundation you stand on. Years have gone by, and I was a leader in this. I am desensitized to it. That is a human emotion, when you get used to something. There is a whole new group of people each election cycle. They don't know about this. I don't fault them. I am (happy not the word), maybe relieved that it's happened now in so many states in such a short time in this primary, that many have now been exposed to it. State after state, more naysayers get it. I leave them alone. It's so sad. I'll never forget the first time I got to SEE the truth. It still hurts.
The corporations own the voting machines, not us. And under federal law, we are not allowed to look inside, and see how they are programmed to accept a vote, and tabulate in the end. All 'vendor proprietary information'. This is the country we live in.
J_J_
(1,213 posts)If Hillary wants this so bad, what the hell do the elite have planned for us this time?
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)you can move on to other things. Like not understanding how caucuses work.
Vincardog
(20,234 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)Where did you see there is no evidence?
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Also, one cannot prove a negative. The burden lies with the one making the claims.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)the agenda of theft with false accusations and no facts are harmful.
If this were happening on the other "side", they would be calling for heads to roll. But as long as they are winning, they think that squashing Democracy is just fine.
It is disgusting, sickening and morally/ethically bankrupt.
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YouDig
(2,280 posts)There were more Hillary delegates there than Bernie delegates, there was only one possible democratic outcome, which is the one that happened.
msongs
(67,405 posts)charges filed