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Remember how it turned out the GOP was financing Nader? (Original Post) arely staircase May 2016 OP
Most likely it's happening right now Cali_Democrat May 2016 #1
Bernie is now a Trump/GOP errand boy. arely staircase May 2016 #2
A ton! LondonReign2 May 2016 #12
Bernie Sanders’s Conservative Fanboys - Daily Beast Bill USA May 2016 #25
We know it is going on timmymoff May 2016 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #7
+ 1,000,000! (n/t) Amaril May 2016 #10
No doubt, particular with the rhetoric BS is spewing today. nt eastwestdem May 2016 #4
I'm wondering the same thing Vogon_Glory May 2016 #5
They are going to try to boost the weaker candidate. That is Bernie. nt LexVegas May 2016 #6
Hell, I would if I were them. Look at it from their perspective: TwilightZone May 2016 #8
Bernie's campaign exists because the people want it to exist. Ken Burch May 2016 #9
You're missing something Vogon_Glory May 2016 #11
Totally agree with your last paragraph Txbluedog May 2016 #14
I agree with you about the right-wing mole problem. Ken Burch May 2016 #16
Rove funded Nader's campaign Gothmog May 2016 #13
Remember when Kerry received from GOP donors at a rate 10 times that of Nader? Luminous Animal May 2016 #15
For the purpose of defeating Republicans. Nader took their money to defeat Democrats arely staircase May 2016 #17
Huh? bonemachine May 2016 #23
So the GOP money men were giving Nader money to defeat Bush? arely staircase May 2016 #24
Remember when Clinton went after Bush, Cruz, and Rubio donors. QC May 2016 #18
Yes. For money to defeat Donald Trump. Nader took their money to defeat AL Gore. arely staircase May 2016 #20
Wait... bonemachine May 2016 #22
Of course but not for the reasons of beating bush, just to suppress Gore numbers but you know that uponit7771 May 2016 #28
We know about Crossroads. NCTraveler May 2016 #19
I'm confident that it's not happening. hellofromreddit May 2016 #21
Well (with side eye) uponit7771 May 2016 #26
I doubt they need to do that, Trump simply repeats everything that Bernie The_Casual_Observer May 2016 #27
 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
1. Most likely it's happening right now
Thu May 19, 2016, 04:18 PM
May 2016

Remember during one of the Democratic debates when the RNC chairman was live-tweeting and defending Bernie?

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
3. We know it is going on
Thu May 19, 2016, 04:20 PM
May 2016

Hillary courted Jeb Bush , Marco Rubio, and Ted Cruz mega donors. So yup it's going on, but not by the progressive candidate of the democratic party, but by the right leaning candidate of the democratic party.

Response to timmymoff (Reply #3)

Vogon_Glory

(9,117 posts)
5. I'm wondering the same thing
Thu May 19, 2016, 04:25 PM
May 2016

I'm wondering the same thing. After watching what the Rethugs did to Bill Clinton and what many of them tried to do to President Obsma, I would not be the slightest bit surprised to see right-wing operatives hard at work for the hard-right propaganda organs and the Republican Party masquerading as just another one of Bernie's fan-boys or just another one of Bernie's fan-girls.

TwilightZone

(25,464 posts)
8. Hell, I would if I were them. Look at it from their perspective:
Thu May 19, 2016, 04:49 PM
May 2016

Politically-savvy, well-connected, well-funded, veteran politician with an extensive national organization vs. not-yet-vetted political loner who once flirted with communism.

That's how the GOP would see it.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
9. Bernie's campaign exists because the people want it to exist.
Thu May 19, 2016, 04:52 PM
May 2016

Only the rich would have benefited if HRC had been nominated by acclimation, because she would be running twenty degrees to Obama's right.

There will never again be a good reason for Democratic presidential candidates to blur the differences between themselves and the Republican candidates, and especially not to the massive degree Bill did in '92 and '96(something she never publicly questioned).

Vogon_Glory

(9,117 posts)
11. You're missing something
Thu May 19, 2016, 05:03 PM
May 2016

You're missing something. I don't doubt that many Sanders voters are motivated by a genuine and understandable anger at the default kleptocratic policies this country has been operating under more often than not since 1995. But I strongly believe that a lot of the current rancor is being artificially stoked by right-wing moles pretending to be Sanders supporters.

If it makes you feel better, I suspect that there are other R/W moles pretending to be Clinton supporters.

What's in it for right-wingers and Republicans to promote the Sanders vs Clinton feud?
A weakened and divided Democratic Party that would boost the chances of Trump and boost the chances of the Republicans keeping the US Senate and probably the House, too

 

Txbluedog

(1,128 posts)
14. Totally agree with your last paragraph
Thu May 19, 2016, 05:24 PM
May 2016

We started out with the prospect of a contested republican convention now is Turing into possible riots and chaos at the democratic convention

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
16. I agree with you about the right-wing mole problem.
Thu May 19, 2016, 06:06 PM
May 2016

It is nearly impossible for a candidate to vet her or his online supporters.

My objection to the OP was that it seemed to be yet another argument that Bernie's campaign is illegitimate and should never have happened.

Gothmog

(145,130 posts)
13. Rove funded Nader's campaign
Thu May 19, 2016, 05:24 PM
May 2016

For some funny reason, Karl Rove funded Nader in 2000 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-zuesse/ralph-nader-was-indispens_b_4235065.html

Furthermore, Karl Rove and the Republican Party knew this, and so they nurtured and crucially assisted Nader's campaigns, both in 2000 and in 2004. On 27 October 2000, the AP's Laura Meckler headlined "GOP Group To Air Pro-Nader TV Ads." She opened: "Hoping to boost Ralph Nader in states where he is threatening to hurt Al Gore, a Republican group is launching TV ads featuring Nader attacking the vice president [Mr. Gore]. ... 'Al Gore is suffering from election year delusion if he thinks his record on the environment is anything to be proud of,' Nader says [in the commercial]. An announcer interjects: 'What's Al Gore's real record?' Nader says: 'Eight years of principles betrayed and promises broken.'" Meckler's report continued: "A spokeswoman for the Green Party nominee said that his campaign had no control over what other organizations do with Nader's speeches." Bush's people - the group sponsoring this particular ad happened to be the Republican Leadership Council - knew exactly what they were doing, even though the liberal suckers who voted so carelessly for Ralph Nader obviously did not. Anyone who drives a car the way those liberal fools voted, faces charges of criminal negligence, at the very least. But this time, the entire nation crashed as a result; not merely a single car.

This is from the GOP bag of dirty tricks that worked once and Rove has been running attack ads against Clinton but not Sanders. Again the GOP knows which candidate is the weakest general election candidate

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
17. For the purpose of defeating Republicans. Nader took their money to defeat Democrats
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:20 PM
May 2016

So there is that minor detail.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
24. So the GOP money men were giving Nader money to defeat Bush?
Thu May 19, 2016, 08:12 PM
May 2016

You really believe that? Well they weren't. They were financing a left third party to specifically go after the Democratic Candidate.

Any money that GOP donors are giving to Clinton is so she can defeat Trump.

Then in the next cycle it will be her against the people that helped her beat Trump.

QC

(26,371 posts)
18. Remember when Clinton went after Bush, Cruz, and Rubio donors.
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:21 PM
May 2016

It was in the news just a couple of weeks ago. No need to go back fifteen years for this.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/hilary-clinton-bush-donors-222872

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
20. Yes. For money to defeat Donald Trump. Nader took their money to defeat AL Gore.
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:24 PM
May 2016

so a bit different.

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