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Here is a video of the frightened Boxer (Original Post) J_J_ May 2016 OP
Boxer at that moment: Ash_F May 2016 #1
Did she just scream Fuck You at the end? OMG - she is a mess. jillan May 2016 #2
At the very end she appears to be flipping the bird at the crowd... Alex4Martinez May 2016 #12
Classy Barbara, real classy. jillan May 2016 #14
At great personal risk madamesilverspurs May 2016 #56
It's hard to tell, she might have pointed a finger straight out at someone in the crowd. Alex4Martinez May 2016 #77
I don't know what people are imagining from this passiveporcupine May 2016 #104
Many have suggested that Boxer is in fear of her life there. Alex4Martinez May 2016 #106
I don't see fear there either, unless it just a bluff passiveporcupine May 2016 #116
Talk about privilege! NWCorona May 2016 #67
Real punk move. And then come back the next day straight out of a soap opera. highprincipleswork May 2016 #129
There you go-making up crap and passing it off as truth-and the Bernie fans pile on. Shame on you. riversedge May 2016 #135
It looked like she was flipping people off while they said, "Shame on you!" MrMickeysMom May 2016 #17
Jillian—‘There’s Something About Hillary’ … CobaltBlue May 2016 #131
I have been in some hot city council meetings nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #3
she said she grew up in New York and was not afraid of anything. grasswire May 2016 #4
Nevada will prove to be the place where nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #5
the old guard, yes grasswire May 2016 #6
I bet the Califorians aspirant May 2016 #9
She is retiring, so that is ok nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #71
nadinbrzezinski—I like Hillary. I like Barbara. But there is more to this… CobaltBlue May 2016 #133
Overall I agree. nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #134
Nadin, I've BEEN threatened by a ex-cop with a gun in his sock during a council meeting... MrMickeysMom May 2016 #19
The problem with this narrative nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #21
That was kinda shocking, I was actually expecting to see her cowering behind the cops. Rex May 2016 #24
This whole season has been an exercise in weirdness nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #26
Agree, I think he actually has HRC HQ worried. Rex May 2016 #28
Yes she did,and then threw phony kisses at them on the way out. passiveporcupine May 2016 #118
Maybe she will be our new SOS! peace13 May 2016 #43
Oh yes she can nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #49
Oh shit! peace13 May 2016 #55
Is that Bush? Art_from_Ark May 2016 #127
Yup, that is the reason for the formation nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #130
No fear at all! I'm amazed at her conduct in this video nt NWCorona May 2016 #72
Everyone who bumps up against the Clintons comes away covered in their SLIME... AzDar May 2016 #7
She certainly looks terrified and as if she fears for her life. SamKnause May 2016 #8
Wow... that is something else. demmiblue May 2016 #10
Sweet, frightened little Barbie. Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #11
Agree SamKnause May 2016 #15
There can be no doubt. frylock May 2016 #20
They all had an agenda. They wanted a riot...something to use against Bernie supporters and haikugal May 2016 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #13
Is she blowing FU kisses to the crowd? Rex May 2016 #16
She was taunting and mocking them. She was not afraid. She's a liar. nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2016 #103
She was being very disrespectful to her boss Mnpaul May 2016 #108
Yeah, she really looks afraid for her life there. frylock May 2016 #18
Throwing kisses at the Sanders bullies was smart of her. And I am glad she had protection riversedge May 2016 #22
She's a fucking liar. frylock May 2016 #23
I cannot believe she was inciting more violence, I guess retirement looms and she gives no fucks Rex May 2016 #25
There was no violence even though they did everything they could to incite some. haikugal May 2016 #31
This is the first I've looked into NV for myself, wow...just ugly and vile. Rex May 2016 #34
They're special aren't they? Bless their hearts! haikugal May 2016 #36
You were inside my head nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #42
Eventually everyone in our culture will realize if you are a public figure, you lack any privacy. Rex May 2016 #50
It is not just for pols nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #61
Ah look at the still wet behind the ears warmongering pup! Rex May 2016 #64
My error, copy and paste did not work nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #69
Incitement is SMART????? nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #38
She was blowing Kisses which are honey. She did not resort to vile comments like the bullies did. riversedge May 2016 #52
I guess you cannot see it nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #58
I guess you only watched nine seconds of the video. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #60
Kisses were not all she was blowing... leftinportland May 2016 #46
She is a fucking idiot. nt Logical May 2016 #59
She and Harry are hanging it up so that's at least 2 down. floriduck May 2016 #27
Barbara is a pro, she has had to deal with right wingers who hate liberals Actor May 2016 #29
Yeah, she's a pro...and those aren't right wingers...those were democrats. Ignorant. haikugal May 2016 #32
Actually we are finding many Bernie supporters are not democrats at all. Actor May 2016 #39
The people in NV were democrats so trying to move the goalposts Hillary style doesn't work. haikugal May 2016 #44
And most Bernie supporters dont act like that anyway. Some do, not most. Actor May 2016 #45
They were behaving appropriately for the situation. Illegal and dictatorial actions call for loud haikugal May 2016 #51
Who's "we", and which Bernie Sanders supporters have you exposed? You THINK there's a link? cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #62
It was a State Democratic Party Convention. HooptieWagon May 2016 #73
STOP calling liberals who tell the truth liars, i know that is OK on non liberal boards but NOT Actor May 2016 #139
Not since Hillary wiped her ass with the party, no. Not anymore. n/t Jester Messiah May 2016 #157
Weird that you would say that. peace13 May 2016 #35
The scum, your word not mine, are those who wont lose sleep trying to figure out how to Actor May 2016 #41
Best way to do it is keep Hill off the ballot. peace13 May 2016 #53
So the propaganda has been so effective Hillary is now a devil? Actor May 2016 #57
She brought baggage with her... peace13 May 2016 #74
I will add that it is not propaganda but her actions, words and deeds that tell the story. peace13 May 2016 #75
Liberals all over the world are PRAYING you Bernie or Bust people are not regular voters. Actor May 2016 #140
Actual liberals around the world nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #141
Dear god, throw the planet into chaos with Trump but dont dare spend one minute Actor May 2016 #142
I know what is happening around the world nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #143
You are now showing why we have a problem. You are talking to someone who has spent Actor May 2016 #144
Any oher ASSumptions you would like to make about my life nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #145
So you dont agree when I say throwing the whole shooting match to Trump would be stupid? Actor May 2016 #146
Again nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #147
So you are OK with Trump as president. Actor May 2016 #148
I am not the one making that choice nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #149
No, you are the one being asked, and you appear to be saying Trump is OK Actor May 2016 #150
Break those Barriers, little minion! arcane1 May 2016 #154
God help us if this is what people think is liberal now...Be careful, those of us who have Actor May 2016 #155
I used to have such respect for this woman. peace13 May 2016 #33
I feel the same way, peace13. Uncle Joe May 2016 #40
I thought she was progressive too. ozone_man May 2016 #126
Doesn't matter. Boxer comes out of the Tantrumgate Incident as the oasis May 2016 #37
Your nose must not work. Everyone who can smell knows where the stink is coming from and it haikugal May 2016 #47
No was said "Bernie or his people" stink. Bernie's "Mr. Straight Talk" oasis May 2016 #65
More stinky nonsense from another slime merchant. haikugal May 2016 #68
"I'm rubber, your glue" oasis May 2016 #85
that's the level of discussion around here...grade school crap. haikugal May 2016 #89
Your "slime merchant" comment warranted a high level response. oasis May 2016 #102
it's apparent that manufactured consent on the order of the Iraq war is in play..a response is haikugal May 2016 #105
"It's apparent"?..... Not to everyone. nt oasis May 2016 #109
Well you're still in grade school. haikugal May 2016 #112
I remember wasting my time with bushbots nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #114
And gives an instant add to the opositon nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #48
"Instant ad" to what opposition? oasis May 2016 #81
You are that daft? Ok nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #86
That was before video surfaced of her trolling an already angry crowd. Rex May 2016 #54
the video's been around since Sunday at the very least the M$M pretends it doesn't exist azurnoir May 2016 #63
Wow, thanks! That is so sad. Rex May 2016 #70
America has repeatedly seen the Bernie crowd going bonkers. oasis May 2016 #76
Only when manufactured nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #80
Many Dem/Indy voters view these "revolutionaries" as a threat. oasis May 2016 #84
You hope nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #87
Enjoy. nt oasis May 2016 #95
Oh it will be quite the show nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #98
Impressive video. It should have more exposure. Lengthy, oasis May 2016 #120
So can you answer why US Reporters at the top of their game nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #121
Maybe they will in due time. Right now they have to be oasis May 2016 #122
But same folks do say that on CANADIAN and EUROPEAN air? nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #123
So Sanders is now the leader of the DNC? TimPlo May 2016 #107
Bernie didn't do anything wrong. passiveporcupine May 2016 #110
"Bernie didn't do anything wrong". Oh yeah? I guess you think oasis May 2016 #119
He made this statement two days ago passiveporcupine May 2016 #136
I'm sure you're very proud. frylock May 2016 #138
Break those Barriers, little minion! arcane1 May 2016 #152
That looks like a proud bully to me... k8conant May 2016 #66
A speech that was cut short by the rowdy crowd. nt oasis May 2016 #79
A rowdy speech in which she taunted the crowd nt k8conant May 2016 #117
Funny that passiveporcupine May 2016 #137
Then Hillary literally tells BLM protesters to listen to HER, and is praised by those same trolls. arcane1 May 2016 #153
very proud bully....disgusting. haikugal May 2016 #94
She is gesturing to supporters and is clearly relieved to have a police escort Renew Deal May 2016 #78
Were you there? kiva May 2016 #83
Todlers can be dangerous though nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #92
Typhoid Marys they are... kiva May 2016 #97
There you go, and when soembody forgets to change that diaper nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #99
Yeah, that's the ticket....she always flips off her supporters. She's clearly trolling the honest haikugal May 2016 #88
It's a conspiracy Renew Deal May 2016 #91
Don't believe your lying eyes.... haikugal May 2016 #96
Actually there are books on this media behavior nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #101
Interesting book trudyco May 2016 #111
I remember those halcyon days of yesterday myself nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #113
Civility my ass! It look like she was egging them on. NWCorona May 2016 #82
This message was self-deleted by its author passiveporcupine May 2016 #90
Wow...that's fucking arrogant. Full of contempt and mockery. Bread and Circus May 2016 #93
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #100
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #115
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #125
WWF comes to mind GreatGazoo May 2016 #124
She has been a great Senator ronnykmarshall May 2016 #128
Got a mirror for a site that doesn't require personal information? scscholar May 2016 #132
When I'm drunk and in fear for my life, I ALWAYS blow kisses and flip birds. arcane1 May 2016 #151
I'd like to know where all this rude, devil may care behavior was... Carni May 2016 #156

jillan

(39,451 posts)
2. Did she just scream Fuck You at the end? OMG - she is a mess.
Thu May 19, 2016, 04:51 PM
May 2016

I've decided that Barbara Boxer is the poster child of needing term limits.

Here is a Progressive Icon that wiped out her entire legacy in one day.

Alex4Martinez

(2,192 posts)
12. At the very end she appears to be flipping the bird at the crowd...
Thu May 19, 2016, 06:25 PM
May 2016

First was what looked like a lot of "mouaaah" throwing of kisses, then this:

madamesilverspurs

(15,798 posts)
56. At great personal risk
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:05 PM
May 2016

I'm going to suggest that she was pointing. Based on the shadowing on her hand, the hand is palm down. The art on the wall behind her holds the upright elements that could otherwise be mistaken for a raised digit.

Plus, she's been around a long time, she knows what not to do when cameras a running, don't have to like her to acknowledge that.

Alex4Martinez

(2,192 posts)
77. It's hard to tell, she might have pointed a finger straight out at someone in the crowd.
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:23 PM
May 2016

It's hard to tell, it's fuzzy, but at the end of the video it almost looks like her mouth is saying "Fuck"...

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
104. I don't know what people are imagining from this
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:50 PM
May 2016

I sure don't see her flipping anyone off and I don't see her saying Fuck.

Don't let your anger get you carried away folks.

Alex4Martinez

(2,192 posts)
106. Many have suggested that Boxer is in fear of her life there.
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:53 PM
May 2016

It doesn't seem like it to me.

I don't get cable and haven't watched any clips but I'm more concerned about the bullet holes in Sanders' campaign office.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
116. I don't see fear there either, unless it just a bluff
Thu May 19, 2016, 08:06 PM
May 2016

What did she have to be afraid of...a little yelling? Nobody was doing anything but yelling and maybe some raised fists in the air. Oh and one raised chair that was never thrown. And I don't know if that happened when Boxer was there. I think it happened after Lange shut things down.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
129. Real punk move. And then come back the next day straight out of a soap opera.
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:19 PM
May 2016

I've voted for her, liked her in the past.

Tragic behavior on this day in question however.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
17. It looked like she was flipping people off while they said, "Shame on you!"
Thu May 19, 2016, 06:33 PM
May 2016

Other than that, I don't see anything but a woman flanked by a bunch of police and security.

What's to be fearful of? The fact that someone caught her flipping people off and saying, "fuck you"?

Poor theater, if you ask me.

 

CobaltBlue

(1,122 posts)
131. Jillian—‘There’s Something About Hillary’ …
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:27 PM
May 2016

There should be a movie inspired from There’s Something About Mary (1998), that hilarious comedy which stars Cameron Diaz.

Like Mary, people lose themselves over and for Hillary. There isn’t anything they won’t do for her. And they end up really embarrassing themselves.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
3. I have been in some hot city council meetings
Thu May 19, 2016, 04:53 PM
May 2016

where members were taken out by security though the back door

None has ever acted that way. That is not a person who is afraid.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
4. she said she grew up in New York and was not afraid of anything.
Thu May 19, 2016, 05:44 PM
May 2016

Then all of a sudden she's portrayed as a weakling

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
5. Nevada will prove to be the place where
Thu May 19, 2016, 05:45 PM
May 2016

The war was lost. Poor strategy all around. Plus some free talking points. Democrats are weak. Democrats fear their base. Stupid

 

CobaltBlue

(1,122 posts)
133. nadinbrzezinski—I like Hillary. I like Barbara. But there is more to this…
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:35 PM
May 2016

Last edited Thu May 19, 2016, 10:23 PM - Edit history (3)

I want what, and who, is best for this country.

If electing a first female president of the United States was my No. 1 priority—and it should have happened decades ago—I would go for the best: Massachusetts U.S. senator Elizabeth Warren.

Now, I know you’re not arguing for Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders. But, I wanted to, even if not necessary, add this comment expressing where I am coming from.

It is time for many Republican and Democratic Party officeholder to … go. No one lasts forever. And we are in a new period for American politics.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
19. Nadin, I've BEEN threatened by a ex-cop with a gun in his sock during a council meeting...
Thu May 19, 2016, 06:35 PM
May 2016

He never took it out, but was proud it was there and that non of his cop buddies cared to search him before he came in and threatened the majority of council.

This is nothing.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
21. The problem with this narrative
Thu May 19, 2016, 06:39 PM
May 2016

is that her going I was scared, and we have video of her going "fuck you" dispel that narrative, Though it gives a strong meme to the opposition, It is stunning in the level of first grade school council election level this is being done.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
24. That was kinda shocking, I was actually expecting to see her cowering behind the cops.
Thu May 19, 2016, 06:43 PM
May 2016

Not passing out FU kisses...that almost seems like incitement. Could it be she is going to retire and just doesn't give a shit anymore? I am with you on this one, surprised by what I saw.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
26. This whole season has been an exercise in weirdness
Thu May 19, 2016, 06:46 PM
May 2016

the only reason they agreed to let Bernie run was... who the hell expected a crazy old Jewish SOCIALIST from Vermont to actually give her a run for her money? Alas here we are... It was supposed to be batting practice and illusion. Instead it has removed the last scales from the eyes of those who are paying attention.

Her behavior in that tape is unprofessional, and makes me wonder what the hell was she offered?

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
28. Agree, I think he actually has HRC HQ worried.
Thu May 19, 2016, 06:49 PM
May 2016

She should have just walked away. She trolled an angry crowd, that is foolish imo. Even with a huge platoon of cops on hand.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
118. Yes she did,and then threw phony kisses at them on the way out.
Thu May 19, 2016, 08:10 PM
May 2016

I don't know what she was thinking.

That's the kind of snark I'm used to seeing here, but not in public from professionals.

SamKnause

(13,087 posts)
8. She certainly looks terrified and as if she fears for her life.
Thu May 19, 2016, 05:54 PM
May 2016

I always blow kisses with both hands, smile, flip people off, and say f**k you

when I am frightened.

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
11. Sweet, frightened little Barbie.
Thu May 19, 2016, 06:07 PM
May 2016

I now agree, she went there with an agenda to do this. I do believe it was planned.

She is lower than pond scum.

SamKnause

(13,087 posts)
15. Agree
Thu May 19, 2016, 06:30 PM
May 2016

All of this shit stirring has been well orchestrated to destroy

Bernie's and his supporters reputations.

I hope it back fires in a big way.

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
30. They all had an agenda. They wanted a riot...something to use against Bernie supporters and
Thu May 19, 2016, 06:51 PM
May 2016

Bernie himself. They failed, AGAIN, and it's all over them now....what a stink!!

Response to J_J_ (Original post)

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
16. Is she blowing FU kisses to the crowd?
Thu May 19, 2016, 06:32 PM
May 2016

WTH? There is another word for that and it is not the word 'fear'. Wow. I am so sorry I did not sit out this primary season. I cannot now unknow what I have seen these past months...

riversedge

(70,077 posts)
22. Throwing kisses at the Sanders bullies was smart of her. And I am glad she had protection
Thu May 19, 2016, 06:41 PM
May 2016

as she walked from the stage.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
25. I cannot believe she was inciting more violence, I guess retirement looms and she gives no fucks
Thu May 19, 2016, 06:45 PM
May 2016

anymore. Blowing FU kisses to the crowd...wowzers.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
34. This is the first I've looked into NV for myself, wow...just ugly and vile.
Thu May 19, 2016, 06:55 PM
May 2016

I heard someone else say that and at FIRST I didn't believe it...dam it, my lying eyes just said it...yep they were inciting violence. Disgusting. I guess people forget that instant video exists and goes around the world in seconds.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
42. You were inside my head
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:00 PM
May 2016

I just told Tom exactly that, and that next they will forbid people from bringing PHONES to party events.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
50. Eventually everyone in our culture will realize if you are a public figure, you lack any privacy.
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:03 PM
May 2016

And that all your movements in public are being recorded by someone, somewhere. The most Democratic thing we've ever brought with us is our instant video makers.

Yeah watch phones get banned or they just make it all closed door, members only.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
61. It is not just for pols
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:10 PM
May 2016

but yes, the era of privacy is over, I carry with me HD 1080 in my pocket and a good 8 Megapixel camera.

Bad me, when I replaced the phone I was looking at this one...

http://www.electronicsforce.com/nokia-lumia-1020-gsm-unlocked-41-mega-pixel-camera-yellow-p-60091.html#googlebase

41 mexapixels for that baby. Alas Windows phone

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
64. Ah look at the still wet behind the ears warmongering pup!
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:12 PM
May 2016

Oh the mad adventures and mass amount of deaths he would cause, just so Uncle Dick could load up his piggy bank!

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
38. Incitement is SMART?????
Thu May 19, 2016, 06:58 PM
May 2016

also it betrays the story line that I was afraid, That is not the way people who are afraid act.

Oh and courtesy of this stupidity, yup that was a gift to the opposition and would have been even in a normal year... "democrats are weak and are afraid of their base." I can see the adds now.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
58. I guess you cannot see it
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:07 PM
May 2016

I will step away from you, and those rose colored glasses, Back in the real world that add wrote itself.

Actor

(626 posts)
39. Actually we are finding many Bernie supporters are not democrats at all.
Thu May 19, 2016, 06:59 PM
May 2016

There is a link here somewhere from 538 about exactly that.

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
44. The people in NV were democrats so trying to move the goalposts Hillary style doesn't work.
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:00 PM
May 2016

They were democrats not right wingers.

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
51. They were behaving appropriately for the situation. Illegal and dictatorial actions call for loud
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:04 PM
May 2016

disapproval and that's what the people did. That's appropriate.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
73. It was a State Democratic Party Convention.
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:19 PM
May 2016

The delegates were all screened to certify party membership. But don't let the facts get in the way of your lie.

Actor

(626 posts)
139. STOP calling liberals who tell the truth liars, i know that is OK on non liberal boards but NOT
Fri May 20, 2016, 01:03 PM
May 2016

here!


I didnt say anything about people at the convention, i said supporters, period.

Actor

(626 posts)
41. The scum, your word not mine, are those who wont lose sleep trying to figure out how to
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:00 PM
May 2016

get more people to vote for whoever the democrat is so Trump doesnt win.

Well, not scum maybe, but you know what I mean, surely NOT liberals.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
53. Best way to do it is keep Hill off the ballot.
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:04 PM
May 2016

Barring that we ask everyone to sell their souls to one devil or the other!

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
74. She brought baggage with her...
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:20 PM
May 2016

..and it got worse from there. I am old enough to have seen in real time the video used today to show that she is not honest...at a minimum. Sorry if devil is too strong but nothing good will come of this. Her reign as SOS has made more enemies than not. Bottom line for me is she does not respect life! dead troops, dead children, dead leaders that could have been tried instead of assassinated. We do not need this

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
75. I will add that it is not propaganda but her actions, words and deeds that tell the story.
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:23 PM
May 2016

Also, welcome to DU. I admire your productivity! Awesome!

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
141. Actual liberals around the world
Fri May 20, 2016, 01:07 PM
May 2016

laugh at what some Americans think is the meaning of the word. Got a passport? Use it

Actor

(626 posts)
142. Dear god, throw the planet into chaos with Trump but dont dare spend one minute
Fri May 20, 2016, 01:22 PM
May 2016

pretending the Bernie or Bust idea isnt a HORROR story around the world.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/trump-terrifies-world-leaders-222233



President Barack Obama is trying but failing to reassure foreign leaders convinced that Donald Trump will be the next president of the United States. They're in full-boil panic.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
143. I know what is happening around the world
Fri May 20, 2016, 01:24 PM
May 2016

unlike you I travel. I know that Trump is to the level of the equivalent of the NSC for the Mexican President... for example.

but in an age of deceit, my vote will be decided by the central tabulator, not me. So spare me.

And you still do not know what the word liberal is, or why Faux liberals like you, are truly a joke abroad.

Actor

(626 posts)
144. You are now showing why we have a problem. You are talking to someone who has spent
Fri May 20, 2016, 01:29 PM
May 2016

much of my life committed to liberal causes, not someone who is NEW to this.

As to travel, sorry, you are wrong there too, but you dont care that you are wrong.

You have an idea that Hillary is the devil and Bernie is perfect and nobody is going to convince you otherwise.

Even when you are talking to a BERNIE SUPPORTER, you expose your newness, for lack of a better word.

You HAVE to be new if you dont understand what I am saying.

When you can make the following statement, you will be progressing:

"Sure, I know Hillary Clinton is part of the problem, part of the establishment that is screwing over the average person, but the answer isnt to hand the whole shooting match over to someone as deadly as Trump, that would be stupid"

When you can say that, you will be on your way to understanding why you vote.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
145. Any oher ASSumptions you would like to make about my life
Fri May 20, 2016, 01:31 PM
May 2016

and what I am committed to? Or have been committed to since the age of 14? The problem we are having is bellow... you can't stand it. And I do not think you really know what the word means,. Take heart. Most Americans don't... partly due to our wonderful informative school system.

"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act”

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
147. Again
Fri May 20, 2016, 01:39 PM
May 2016

"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act”

And one of those truths is that elections in the US are not transparent, or clean and would not pass muster to the standards we require from others, Stalin said it best. It does not matter who you vote for, it matters who counts the votes. So when you reach that state of mind two things happen.

1.- The system, the whole system is not legitimate

2.- You realize it is charade.. so like Mexican elections we had a dedazo, and we will have the modern version of ballot stuffing... central tabulators. We have had this issue since 2000, and both parties give two shits about it.

By the way, in oligarchies, we are one, elections are carefully manipulated and both sides in this case, benefit.

Take heart. as bad as Trump is... I will count on the famous dysfunction and hyper partisanship of the house to stop a lot of it. For the record, they will stop HRC too.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
149. I am not the one making that choice
Fri May 20, 2016, 01:56 PM
May 2016

they won't ask me.

And that is what you still are missing

In an age of deceit, one truth is that your vote does not count, for shit or squat.

Actor

(626 posts)
155. God help us if this is what people think is liberal now...Be careful, those of us who have
Fri May 20, 2016, 02:36 PM
May 2016

pulled the heavy weight for decades, contributed more than you can imagine to liberal causes, might get tired of being called names and liars.

i know I am

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
33. I used to have such respect for this woman.
Thu May 19, 2016, 06:55 PM
May 2016

To watch this tells it all. They say the people want entitlements but that right there is one entitled B&7@9! And yes she is a woman but she is a thief, a liar and void of integrity! How can Clinton supporters not see what happened there. It was not only an attack on Sanders but an attack on all Americans and the system that they are dismantling!

ozone_man

(4,825 posts)
126. I thought she was progressive too.
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:08 PM
May 2016

Then again, I voted for Bill Clinton twice, until I understood his corporate trade policy and banking agenda. Lessons learned.

oasis

(49,326 posts)
37. Doesn't matter. Boxer comes out of the Tantrumgate Incident as the
Thu May 19, 2016, 06:57 PM
May 2016

victim. She leaves smelling like a rose, on the other hand, Bernie's image was damaged for his mishandling of the situation.

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
47. Your nose must not work. Everyone who can smell knows where the stink is coming from and it
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:01 PM
May 2016

isn't Bernie or his people.

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
105. it's apparent that manufactured consent on the order of the Iraq war is in play..a response is
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:50 PM
May 2016

required by honest people everywhere who care about our country, it's people and the world. I think that's appropriate. This is being manufactured the same way as the Iraq war was. Wasn't true then, not true now.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
114. I remember wasting my time with bushbots
Thu May 19, 2016, 08:04 PM
May 2016

one of them dared to tell me back then that I was not a good american becuase I questioned what was on CNN (chuckle) and that I was a traitor, All the while my husband was on the front lines.

These days I feel the same way about you guys when you go BUT TRUMP and my favorite PRIVIILEDGE,

IF you ever get out of the US Media bubble I recommend you watch CNN-I. I did this year, and it was amazing. YOU see same exact fucking reporter from actually a Sanders rally, gave the INTERNATIONAL audience a balanced report, explained the system and as asked by DWS, did not add the fucking super delegates. Mind you, ten minutes later he gave a report to Atlanta that was extremely obvious.

You know what else? While our wonderful heroic media fawned over Trump (and continues to do so), the same reporters called Trump a fascist when talking to international audiences and questioned the sanity of American voters.

Yes, you are getting propagandized. So when are we going to war with Oceania?

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
48. And gives an instant add to the opositon
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:02 PM
May 2016

by the way, victims don't act that way, nor do they incite people

But I agree with you, she gave a hell of an add to the opposition, It writes itself.

Not that I care to be honest, but damn this is the kind of stupidity that will be fun to watch.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
86. You are that daft? Ok
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:36 PM
May 2016

lemme see, who is Clinton going to run against? Oh yeah the man on the moon PHEW! Last reports the man on the moon is truly a novice in US Politics and would never, ever run a negative add or portray democrats as weak. It is not like it has ever been done before, like EVER.

Oh wait...

http://www.livingroomcandidate.org/commercials/1988/tank-ride



 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
70. Wow, thanks! That is so sad.
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:13 PM
May 2016

I guess the M$M received their Barking orders and the clip was not part of their show...you know how risky it can be to show angry voters!

oasis

(49,326 posts)
76. America has repeatedly seen the Bernie crowd going bonkers.
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:23 PM
May 2016

A large percentage of voters have been brought up to believe there is no excuse for such disrespectful behavior towards longtime elected officials.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
80. Only when manufactured
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:25 PM
May 2016

You are getting propagandized and explains why "Mushroom clouds over American cities" was so effective, And it is to the same level

It is called manufacturing consent

oasis

(49,326 posts)
84. Many Dem/Indy voters view these "revolutionaries" as a threat.
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:32 PM
May 2016

They will now look to Hillary for deliverance.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
98. Oh it will be quite the show
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:43 PM
May 2016

Am afraid the CBC fictional story will be the actual story.



Now is your very relevant question, why are our fearless press people NOT FUCKING SAYING THIS ON US MEDIA!!!!!
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
123. But same folks do say that on CANADIAN and EUROPEAN air?
Thu May 19, 2016, 08:54 PM
May 2016

we call that vetting. Nah, they wanted their horse race and they got it.

We have an old fashioned fiction now. Oligarchies depend on the fiction, But now that you have been exposed to news outside the bubble you might want to look for more of that.

 

TimPlo

(443 posts)
107. So Sanders is now the leader of the DNC?
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:54 PM
May 2016

Am I not mistaken but wasn't it a DNC state convention in NV and not a Rally for Sanders that he was attending? How was he suppose to control this shit when he was in CA? Seriously is your bias so bad that you are this insane to think Sanders can magically control a state convention just so you can post a stupid insane mouth breather smear?

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
110. Bernie didn't do anything wrong.
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:56 PM
May 2016

And there was NO violence at the convention.

There were some hateful messages sent after the convention because people were pissed at how unfair the chairman was. That is a pretty natural reaction, and it was caused by the handling of the convention. Very poorly done and it was done by people in favor of Hillary, not Bernie. They are responsible.

Barbara Boxer is also responsible for not caring how she came across to the crowd. All she did was piss people off and she knew what she was doing. It surprised me. I thought she was more "polished" than that.

oasis

(49,326 posts)
119. "Bernie didn't do anything wrong". Oh yeah? I guess you think
Thu May 19, 2016, 08:43 PM
May 2016

brushing off news reporters when he was asked about his supporters' rowdy behavior was the right thing to do.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
136. He made this statement two days ago
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:40 PM
May 2016
FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. – U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders on Tuesday issued the following statement:

“It is imperative that the Democratic leadership, both nationally and in the states, understand that the political world is changing and that millions of Americans are outraged at establishment politics and establishment economics. The people of this country want a government which represents all of us, not just the 1 percent, super PACs and wealthy campaign contributors.

“The Democratic Party has a choice. It can open its doors and welcome into the party people who are prepared to fight for real economic and social change – people who are willing to take on Wall Street, corporate greed and a fossil fuel industry which is destroying this planet. Or the party can choose to maintain its status quo structure, remain dependent on big-money campaign contributions and be a party with limited participation and limited energy.

“Within the last few days there have been a number of criticisms made against my campaign organization. Party leaders in Nevada, for example, claim that the Sanders campaign has a ‘penchant for violence.’ That is nonsense. Our campaign has held giant rallies all across this country, including in high-crime areas, and there have been zero reports of violence. Our campaign of course believes in non-violent change and it goes without saying that I condemn any and all forms of violence, including the personal harassment of individuals. But, when we speak of violence, I should add here that months ago, during the Nevada campaign, shots were fired into my campaign office in Nevada and apartment housing complex my campaign staff lived in was broken into and ransacked.

“If the Democratic Party is to be successful in November, it is imperative that all state parties treat our campaign supporters with fairness and the respect that they have earned. I am happy to say that has been the case at state conventions in Maine, Alaska, Colorado and Hawaii where good discussions were held and democratic decisions were reached. Unfortunately, that was not the case at the Nevada convention. At that convention the Democratic leadership used its power to prevent a fair and transparent process from taking place. Among other things:

The chair of the convention announced that the convention rules passed on voice vote, when the vote was a clear no-vote. At the very least, the Chair should have allowed for a headcount.
The chair allowed its Credentials Committee to en mass rule that 64 delegates were ineligible without offering an opportunity for 58 of them to be heard. That decision enabled the Clinton campaign to end up with a 30-vote majority.
The chair refused to acknowledge any motions made from the floor or allow votes on them.
The chair refused to accept any petitions for amendments to the rules that were properly submitted.

“These are on top of failures at the precinct and county conventions including trying to depose and then threaten with arrest the Clark County convention credentials chair because she was operating too fairly.”


https://berniesanders.com/press-release/statement-nevada/

And in regard to his "walking away from reporters", he was walking away from the same lies about what happened at the convention that all the media have been spreading. It never happened. No violence at the convention. No chairs thrown. No rushing the dias. No threats. Just angry shouting people (who had a right to be angry). And even the threats made to Lange later by social media and phone, where not done by Nevada convention goers, so no truth to any of the fucking lies about Sander's people being violent at the convention.

OF course he walked away from that. He doesn't get into shit like that.

The chairwoman of the Nevada State Democratic Party said Wednesday that Sen. Bernard Sanders still hasn’t done enough to respond to the actions of his supporters at a chaotic party convention in Las Vegas on Saturday and that she wants Mr. Sanders to acknowledge that there were death threats made to her and her family.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/18/nevada-dems-chair-sanders-statement-threats-weak/

See...everyone is repeating this as if it happened at the convention. IT DID NOT. It was a lie started by Ralston and then picked up by all the media.

This isn't about Bernie, or his campaign...although they are trying to turn it into that. It's about a few people who got pissed at what they saw happen in Nevada who did stupid crap. It does not represent Sanders, his campaign, or most of his supporters.

Now, do you want to talk about some of the violence perpetrated against him and some of his supporters by (gee...who might have done it?)...like the gun shot into the campaign office he was in? Like the trashed apartments?

Why is this all onesided? Why is it only Bernie supporters actions that are called on the carpet and blamed on him...but never anyone getting called from Hillary's side?

Gee, I wonder why.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
137. Funny that
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:45 PM
May 2016

Black Lives Matter interrupted a couple of Bernie's speeches early in the campaign and the Hillary camp blamed Bernie and his supporters for not "listening" to the protestors.

All so one-sided, isn't it?

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
153. Then Hillary literally tells BLM protesters to listen to HER, and is praised by those same trolls.
Fri May 20, 2016, 02:19 PM
May 2016

Funny how that works.

Renew Deal

(81,844 posts)
78. She is gesturing to supporters and is clearly relieved to have a police escort
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:24 PM
May 2016

That's a terrifying situation. People deal with fear in various ways.

kiva

(4,373 posts)
83. Were you there?
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:27 PM
May 2016

Did you see those hundreds of threatening senior citizens? And the children...oh my god, those threatening toddlers. Thank goodness she made it out of there with her middle finger held high.

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
88. Yeah, that's the ticket....she always flips off her supporters. She's clearly trolling the honest
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:38 PM
May 2016

people. How nice.

They tried everything and still couldn't get the Bernie supporters to riot or do anything untoward so they manufacture an angry, violent crowd out of whole cloth and because they have the MSM in their pocket (they all being establishment) it's repeated endlessly, even here, even with evidence it isn't true. Way to go...what does underground mean around here?

trudyco

(1,258 posts)
111. Interesting book
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:57 PM
May 2016

I'll have to get it. I wish there was a billionaire willing to pay the salaries of dozens of investigative reporters and just let them do their job.

And maybe an Anonymous or two. It would be nice to know the Delaware/Nevada version of the Panama Papers.

I kind of miss my ignorant bliss of 2008 where I thought I was choosing between two wonderful candidates in a pretty darn good party in one of the best countries in the world.

The Republicans were supposed to be the bad guys. Sigh.

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ronnykmarshall

(35,356 posts)
128. She has been a great Senator
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:16 PM
May 2016

I worked as an intern in her San Francisco office in 1994 and had to deal with vile right wingers on the phone.

The vile bile spewed in here from right wing assholes is equal to shit being thrown around here.

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
132. Got a mirror for a site that doesn't require personal information?
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:32 PM
May 2016

Or, are you trying to hide something?

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
151. When I'm drunk and in fear for my life, I ALWAYS blow kisses and flip birds.
Fri May 20, 2016, 02:07 PM
May 2016

These phony progressives sure are outing themselves in record numbers lately. We won't forget.

Carni

(7,280 posts)
156. I'd like to know where all this rude, devil may care behavior was...
Fri May 20, 2016, 02:46 PM
May 2016

When Bush was in office from these party notables, such civility displayed towards him then by these same now "outraged at Bernie" people.

I guess they have found their spines at long last, but against the more left leaning option (funny how that works)

She clearly was not in fear for her safety.

I have zero respect for this process at this point, it is a joke.

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