why would Sanders be the nominee if Hillary is forced to withdraw

[Txbluedog]

He has done nothing to support the Democratic Party, in one of his recent campaign events he even led his listeners in booing the party. What makes anyone think that the Democratic Party establishment would want him as their nominee---

[beachbumbob]

1. The convention would become an open convention and

Joe Biden would step in....sanders never will be the nominee under any scenario

[Stallion]

10. Exactly-Biden Wins an Open convention on 2nd Ballot

nm

[beachbumbob]

14. If it happens after the convention...the DNC would draft biden

Again no sanders... Not now...not ever

[yodermon]

2. fuck the voters, full stop

message received

[cloudbase]

15. Indeed.

Party uber alles.

[Baobab]

30. who needs votes when you have Hilldozer

nt

[flor-de-jasmim]

3. He has done more to support democratic IDEALS

Party names are labels - what has DWS done for the PARTY?

[Txbluedog]

11. And yet according you and and other Sanders supporters

The democratic establishment does not care about your "ideals" so I ask again: why would they give him the nomination

[Buns_of_Fire]

49. IDEALS? We don't need no stinkin' IDEALS! We have MONEY!!! nt

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. Because he'd be the runner-up in the primaries, duh.

And a hell of a lot of people have voted, and will vote for him. If it's true that the corrupt, Wall Street-owned Democratic Party "establishment" doesn't want him, that's all the more reason to support him, IMO. Of course, the party could just pull some other candidate out of its collective ass and call that person the nominee - just like in 1968, when the PTB decided Humphrey, who had never even run in any primary election, should be their guy. And we all saw how that turned out.

[NCTraveler]

5. If Clinton were to withdrawal we should go to an open first ballot.

If not, I would hope Pledhed and Supers would hold out. We would no longer be able to honor the will of the voters. The delegates should consider the number of votes Sanders has gotten.

[Ash_F]

6. It would be a tactical decision at that point.

Who is more likely to win against Trump. Biden or Sanders? The delegates would have to decide.

At least there is an option if it happens before convention time. Nobody seems to know what to do if it happens just before the GE.

[Baobab]

19. Biden laughed at the nation's need for affordable health care

on a hot mike with Obama

[Ash_F]

22. Yah I would not go with him either.

[Howler]

7. If the party leaders put Biden up

SANDERS should run independent. He would owe nothing to the democratic establishment then or now.

[frylock]

50. Fuckin-a!

[Hell Hath No Fury]

8. Oh lookie!

[Thinkingabout]

9. Hillary still has her delegates and as we see Cruz and Kasich is still

Getting votes because they are on the ballots. Hillary will have more than the required delegates in June so maybe you meant to say Hillary would be forced to withdraw, looks like Sanders will be forced to withdraw.

[Txbluedog]

13. I meant forced to withdraw

[Thinkingabout]

23. Her chances of being forced to withdraw is the same as Sanders forced to withdraw, in fact Sanders

More than Hillary because of his campaign funding of more than $2700 from one donor.

[scscholar]

36. The decision to illegally take money is disturbing

Out of all of the recent Sanders scandals, that one is the most disturbing.

[frylock]

52. Were you as disturbed when Obama did it?

[procon]

12. Not another fan fiction story?

So what do you have our heroine getting "forced to withdraw" for this time? Is about that silly plot with the alien lizard overlords living under the White House, or that One World Order cabal? Its all lies and conspiracies, I tells ya!

[SheenaR]

16. Maybe the Party is not for everyone

He has done nothing to support the Democratic Party?

Fine...

He has done everything to push an agenda that represents the very best of what the Democratic Party once advocated for and stood for.

So I quite frankly don't care what letter you place next to his name, his ideals are very much in step with ours

[guillaumeb]

17. So the establishment counts for more than the will of the voters?

Interesting philosophy.

[Cal33]

25. This is so typically Republican and Corporatist: The Party is everything, and the American people

are nothing more than tools to be used and discarded when it is no longer profitable to keep them.

[guillaumeb]

27. Right on target.

The voters should leave politics to the professionals......

And the result is a stagnant economy, dropping levels of unionization, increasing wealth concentration. And the Democrats ask why voters are apathetic.

[Gothmog]

18. Agreed

[Todays_Illusion]

20. Berie Sanders has been more loyal with his vote than some Democratic and while you make that claim

others want to discredit his position by providing the record where he has helped with Democratic fundraising.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/05/politics/sanders-democratic-fundraisers/index.html

[winter is coming]

21. Because parachuting in anyone else is a surefire way to lose the GE.

If Bernie were out in Kasich-land in terms of popularity, the DNC could get away with replacing Hillary with someone other than Bernie, but that's not the case. It would be the height of folly to bring in someone else.

[Thinkingabout]

24. Sanders does not have the delegates plain and simple.

[SusanCalvin]

29. In this hypothetical situation,

He'd have the most after the hypothetical withdrawn candidate.

I'd hate to see the party commit suicide (in this hypothetical situation), but that would be on their heads.

[Thinkingabout]

35. How do you get that, Hillary will still have her delegates, Sanders will not have the required

Delegates, if Hillary with draws the delegates are still pledged, she could release them to Biden or O'Malley. There will not be enough delegates left for Sanders to even get half of the pledged delegates.

[SusanCalvin]

37. So she and only she would get to pick the nominee. Nice.

It may have worked that way in the past, but should it work that way at any point in the future, I'm out.

[Thinkingabout]

40. Maybe you did not notice but there have been primaries, Hillary got over three

Million more voted than Sanders, she has more delegates than Sanders, why should Sanders get the nomination when it is clear he did not get the votes or delegates, one of his issues is oligarchy, then allowing him the nomination is oligarchy.

[SusanCalvin]

47. Sigh....

The discussion here is of a hypothetical situation where she withdraws. That should mean the nomination goes to second place, not that she gets to pick all by herself. In a rational world. If it were not so close you might possibly have a point. But it is.

Ideal thing, should she get the nomination, is she's not forced to withdraw. I don't think she will be, at least before the convention. If there's any there there, I think it's being saved for maximum disruption.

[Chan790]

57. Actually she wouldn't.

"Released delegates" can be encouraged to vote the way they are being "released"...but they can't be compelled to do so. "Release" makes them technically unpledged. On average, they tend to vote about 80-85% the way they've been encouraged to.

Unfortunately for Clintonites like ThinkingAbout, Sanders would probably only need to peel about 4% of them to take the nomination on the 1st ballot. If Hillary drops, the nomination is almost certainly Sanders. A replacement candidate like Biden would have a nearly-impossible path to the nomination...and for that reason, it's unlikely that they will actually even find someone to stand for the race.

[SusanCalvin]

58. Hope you're right, in that eventuality. nt

[Cal33]

33. Sanders has only the people. He is the only presidential candidate with a positive favorability

rating, there is simply no one else. The majority of the American people want him.
To the Republicans and Corporatists, of course, the American people mean nothing at all.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html

[Thinkingabout]

41. Once the people gets to know him that would change.

[frylock]

53. That's Hillary you're thinking of.

Her numbers never go up.

[grasswire]

26. You lie.

Unless you can provide video of Bernie LEADING HIS LISTENERS IN BOOING THE PARTY. Can you?

[HassleCat]

28. I think you're right.

Our party would not choose him if he were the last human being alive. He has caused them so much trouble, rocked the boat so violently, revealed the special interests that dominate our party, and, worst of all, given people a genuine alternative to Republican and not quite Republican, that they will never forgive him. I predict they will not allow him to caucus with them in the Senate. They hate him.

[SusanCalvin]

31. You may well be right.

In that case it wouldn't be MY party anymore.

[Cal33]

34. Many politicians may hate him, but the majority of the American people love him. Please

click the link in Post #33 above.

[MariaThinks]

32. I agree. Any of the other Democratic candidates before bernie.

[SusanCalvin]

39. Oooookaaaay...

I personally think that if the party went with anyone except the (very close) second-place finisher, it would be political suicide for the party. I know it would be as far as I'm concerned.

[MariaThinks]

43. I just watched Trump's spokesman on CNN. He attacked hillary by using Bernie's attacks

I'm done with Bernie Sanders. He's the Nader of the day and is trying to become Joe Lieberman.

[Karma13612]

45. +100 eom

[MariaThinks]

46. actually if Bernie ran against Trump

the only way I could tell them apart is that Trump has better clothes and has more money.

[frylock]

54. Well, you don't seem too bright, so I'm certain that's a factor.

[mikehiggins]

55. Heh, heh, heh. Maria Thinks? I think not. eom

[Karma13612]

42. I guess I don't understand how

Biden would be selected.

If all the Clinton supporters are so against Bernie "angry old white guy" Sanders, why would they simply substitute Joe (old white guy) Biden?

And I thought Biden didn't want to be President. He decided not to run.

I am very confused.

But, open to clarification.

Just to be clear, I like Joe Biden, and , I don't think Bernie is an angry old white guy. I love him dearly and am supporting him 150%. I just know that this is a very common description for him which I personally find very offensive.

Hillary will be the nominee, as long as the FBI investigation doesn't unearth anything bad.

[gollygee]

44. A) because he got the next most votes. B) Hillary is not going to be forced to withdraw

This is a silly thread. But there are a lot of silly threads in GDP.

[TheKentuckian]

48. Because the Whigs would be a much more viable party after the epic pooch screwing such

a batshit crazy move would be.

[frylock]

51. Go ahead and shit on millions of voters if it makes you feel good.

That would be the death knell of your precious Party.

[jillan]

56. Oh - is someone worried that Hillary might be forced to withdraw?

Why else would you post this shit.