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bigtree

(85,996 posts)
Thu May 19, 2016, 05:31 PM May 2016

WaPo: 的t is past time for Mr. Sanders to be honest with his supporters"

Allan Brauer ?@allanbrauer 4h4 hours ago
WaPo Edit Board Roasts Sanders: Stop Lying To Your Supporters! @TPM http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/bernie-sanders-washington-post-editorial-nevada


After a tense state Democratic convention in Nevada escalated to reported violence over the weekend, the Washington Post’s editorial board slammed Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) for his response after the state party chair received death threats.

In an editorial published online Wednesday evening, the board said Sanders responded to the Nevada upheaval “with self-righteousness and hypocrisy” by releasing a statement that did not accept responsibility for the chaos but highlighted procedural issues with the convention.

“Mr. Sanders’s irresponsibility is sadly unsurprising,” the editorial board wrote. “He has indulged and encouraged hyperbolic feelings that the country is badly adrift, that most of the nation agrees with a left-wing agenda but is trapped in a corrupt system, and that nothing but a political revolution will do.”

“Mr. Sanders denies reality when he tells supporters he still has a plausible pathway to the Democratic presidential nomination,” the editorial continued. “It is past time for Mr. Sanders to be honest with his supporters, before they take the campaign’s irresponsible ethos to greater extremes and thereby help ensure the election of Donald Trump.”


The editorial also suggested Sanders has fostered a “toxic mix of unreason, revolutionary fervor, and perceived grievance” by questioning the legitimacy of the electoral process while lagging behind Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton in votes...


read: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/bernie-sanders-washington-post-editorial-nevada

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WaPo: 的t is past time for Mr. Sanders to be honest with his supporters" (Original Post) bigtree May 2016 OP
kick. bettyellen May 2016 #1
Direct and to-the-point. NurseJackie May 2016 #2
Boy they are really scared now. LOL ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #3
WTF does the WaPo know about honesty? Zen Democrat May 2016 #4
What's the best Bernie can hope for? To effect the platform, to give a speech at the convention? upaloopa May 2016 #5
Add this to the astonishingly long list of publications handing Sanders his behind this week Number23 May 2016 #6
the entitlement is breathtaking. nt msanthrope May 2016 #9
They quote Jon Ralston who gave us the lie about chair throwing. NT Eric J in MN May 2016 #18
slim thread bigtree May 2016 #20
kick and rec... for truth. nt msanthrope May 2016 #7
The Capehart Daily Liar Gazette says what? DisgustipatedinCA May 2016 #8
Wow wow wow Voice for Peace May 2016 #10
or bigtree May 2016 #11
There are facts, and evidence. That's Bernie's way. Voice for Peace May 2016 #14
it's like arguing with a parishioner bigtree May 2016 #15
Gosh Voice for Peace May 2016 #16
DU rec...nt SidDithers May 2016 #12
Escalated to "reported" violence. LMAO. And you post this shit? Bread and Circus May 2016 #13
A different standard for Sanders than any other candidate. Eric J in MN May 2016 #17
I don't know about the WaPo bigtree May 2016 #19
k&r Starry Messenger May 2016 #21
Here is some info on the new owner of the Washington Post Samantha May 2016 #22

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
5. What's the best Bernie can hope for? To effect the platform, to give a speech at the convention?
Thu May 19, 2016, 05:54 PM
May 2016

What I think he should be doing is to stop attacking Hillary and Dems. He needs to ease into the post primary world. He needs to attack Trump and the right.

He has between now and the convention to land his campaign in a positive way or crash and burn it.

If he is to remain a Democrat in the Senate he needs to begin to build bridges. He can help himself by helping to elect Hillary as President and to help win back the Senate and hopefully the House.

His revolution does not have to end. His drive for single payer and free education does not have to end. But you get more support with honey than you do with vinegar.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
6. Add this to the astonishingly long list of publications handing Sanders his behind this week
Thu May 19, 2016, 06:10 PM
May 2016

He's had easily the worst week in politics I've seen in years.

What is particularly galling about the Sanders camp’s complaints of disenfranchisement is that Mr. Sanders has benefited or tried to benefit from a variety of sketchy quirks of the nominating process. He has claimed support for his cause in caucuses, which are quite exclusive, but he complains about closed primary elections, which are more inclusive. In Nevada, his supporters were trying to game the rules to get more delegates and got upset when they did not succeed. As veteran Nevada politics reporter Jon Ralston put it, “Despite their social media frothing and self-righteous screeds, the facts reveal that the Sanders folks disregarded rules, then when shown the truth, attacked organizers and party officials as tools of a conspiracy to defraud the senator of what was never rightfully his in the first place.”


Kicked and rec'd

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
20. slim thread
Fri May 20, 2016, 01:09 AM
May 2016

...and an obvious deflection from the Sanders attempt to steal Clinton pledged delegates by manipulating and disrupting the convention.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
14. There are facts, and evidence. That's Bernie's way.
Fri May 20, 2016, 12:05 AM
May 2016

The other way is Workers United for the God of Fear, Lies, Cheat & Deceit. Like another final great battle -- between the forces of conscience and the forces of voter manipulation.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
17. A different standard for Sanders than any other candidate.
Fri May 20, 2016, 12:57 AM
May 2016

The WaPo didn't demand of HRC in 2008 that she tell her supporters she couldn't win when she was trailing by more Pledged Delegates than there were remaining Pledged Delegates.

This year, tbey didn't demand that Ted Cruz and John Kasich announce they couldn't win near the end of their runs.


bigtree

(85,996 posts)
19. I don't know about the WaPo
Fri May 20, 2016, 01:06 AM
May 2016

...but Sanders is getting a fraction of the outrage cast against Hillary in 2008 for daring to stay in the race.

Talk about a different standard, if her campaign had behaved as Sanders' has in the last month, there would have been calls for her arrest from Obama supporters.

You're misrepresenting the widespread opposition and outcry in response to her continued campaign, and neglecting to note her gracious and supportive concession 4 days after suspending her campaign in June.

Contrast that with Sanders' insistence that there will be a 'contested convention.'

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
22. Here is some info on the new owner of the Washington Post
Fri May 20, 2016, 03:36 AM
May 2016
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/08/the-politics-of-new-i-washington-post-i-owner-jeff-bezos/278385/

But Bezos could potentially use the Post's editorial page to push his political views Indeed, it's hard to imagine what would induce a fabulously wealthy businessman like Bezos, who's not in the newspaper business, to jump in besides vanity and the chance to influence debate. As Hiatt explained several years ago, "In a sense we speak for the publisher, for the owner--but they don't review most editorials. Instead, they hire someone (me) who they think generally will share their world view."


It is not the outstanding paper it was at one time.

Sam
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