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Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
Thu May 19, 2016, 10:56 PM May 2016

Do you really think Republicans aren't going to unite behind Trump?

Trump will give them something Republican voters have longed for - he will demolish the Clintons and a good portion of the Democratic Party along with them.

The more Trump hammers Clinton, the more they will unite.


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Do you really think Republicans aren't going to unite behind Trump? (Original Post) Skwmom May 2016 OP
They absolutely will. TDale313 May 2016 #1
The fact that they think Republican women will end up flocking to her is mind boggling. Skwmom May 2016 #2
Trump's a bit of a chauvinist pig AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #6
It is more than just that that will cause her a problem with women. Skwmom May 2016 #23
And the more he attacks Hillary, he more democrats unite Renew Deal May 2016 #3
I wouldn't get carried away with that belief. Exilednight May 2016 #29
I think that will effect the "middle" Cosmocat May 2016 #35
Clinton unites the republicans. Trump simply benefits from it. morningfog May 2016 #4
Yep, Hillary energizes the GOP base. One Black Sheep May 2016 #13
They absolutely will. HooptieWagon May 2016 #5
Have Sanders supporters done anything to insult, mock, and antagonize Hillary supporters? Renew Deal May 2016 #7
Following up your ? with an insult proves my point. QED. Nt HooptieWagon May 2016 #12
I'm sorry, I did not intend to insult you. Renew Deal May 2016 #14
Yes, they will. Republicans always put their party before their country. nt 2cannan May 2016 #8
Always... LenaBaby61 May 2016 #9
It's already happening. frylock May 2016 #10
They'll unite, and they'll lose. Same problem as the last two GOP nominees faced Recursion May 2016 #11
You really don't understand what is going on in this country if you think Trump is not going to be Skwmom May 2016 #20
"Minority"? Sure, he'll probably do fairly well among south Asians Recursion May 2016 #21
Prepare yourself. Skwmom May 2016 #22
I know a few black legal immigrants and they are like "build the wall" Fumesucker May 2016 #27
His polling Cosmocat May 2016 #36
yep, not to mention the many many problems Trump himself has Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #33
of course they will ibegurpard May 2016 #15
do yu really think democrats arent going to unite behind hillary (except the extreme berninistas)? msongs May 2016 #16
Aren't enough Democrats and a decent percentage ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #19
as opposed to the endless war and disastrous trade policies Trump will bring Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #34
Polls say most know little about Trump. He is going to be destroyed because no one can bettyellen May 2016 #17
How quickly we forget Fumesucker May 2016 #25
hows that smug posting of memes working out for you? bettyellen May 2016 #38
I'm not campaigning Fumesucker May 2016 #39
Idiot, I agree. Sexist and racist piece of shit, nope. Women and POC vote in greater numbers.... bettyellen May 2016 #40
We know what your beloved Democrats did in 2000, left the Congressional Black Caucus hanging Fumesucker May 2016 #41
It'll be more than Republicans if Camp WV and the DNC ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #18
He'll gain the Indepedents too. frustrated_lefty May 2016 #24
They absolutely will. Hopefully Democratic Party Leaders will finally realize it is better to work highprincipleswork May 2016 #26
There's unity for ya! 6chars May 2016 #28
will unite? .... They've already started. some of them are just Exilednight May 2016 #30
They will. The real question for them is "Is that enough?" pampango May 2016 #31
Sadly, they will. Playwright Tony Kushner said it in 2003. . . DinahMoeHum May 2016 #32
Hillary will wipe the floor with him. JRLeft May 2016 #37

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
1. They absolutely will.
Thu May 19, 2016, 10:59 PM
May 2016

Our base will be demoralized and fractured and theirs will walk over broken glass for the chance to vote against Hillary.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
2. The fact that they think Republican women will end up flocking to her is mind boggling.
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:04 PM
May 2016

Republican women will be a lot easier to turn away from Clinton than the Democrats because they have no party loyalty to the Dems and are more likely to believe what is said.

When I look at Trumps problem with women vs Hillary, I think she has a MUCH larger problem.
 

AgerolanAmerican

(1,000 posts)
6. Trump's a bit of a chauvinist pig
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:11 PM
May 2016

but what he isn't is an enabler for a lifelong sexual predator.

It really just blows my mind that people want to relive this:

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
29. I wouldn't get carried away with that belief.
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:56 AM
May 2016

If they attack Bill, yes we will. Everyone likes Bill.

If they attack Hillary, maybe not so much.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
35. I think that will effect the "middle"
Fri May 20, 2016, 08:23 AM
May 2016

and that is what this election will be about.

Just have to clear the conventions and let the dust settle a bit on our side.

But, I am pretty sure that he won't be able to help himself from acting like a complete jackass toward Hillary while she acts like an adult.

Most likely, that pushes that 15% or so uncommitted now more to her than him.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
5. They absolutely will.
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:06 PM
May 2016

Trump may not be many Republicans favored candidate, but they'll crawl over broken glass and red-hot coals to vote against Clinton. In the meantime, Clinton and her surrogates have gone out of their way to insult, mock, and antagonize Democratic and Independent Ssnders supporters. Naturally, many now refuse to vote for Clinton under any circumstances...who can blame them? What the Clinton fan club is in complete and utter denial about is that most Sanders supporters see little difference between her and Trump. There's no bridging that gap.

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
7. Have Sanders supporters done anything to insult, mock, and antagonize Hillary supporters?
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:28 PM
May 2016

The people that see little difference between Clinton and Trump are morons.

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
14. I'm sorry, I did not intend to insult you.
Fri May 20, 2016, 12:00 AM
May 2016

You said: "most Sanders supporters see little difference between her and Trump."

Are you talking about yourself?

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
9. Always...
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:53 PM
May 2016

KNEW the GOP would unite behind Trump. ALWAYS.

As for Sanders supporters not voting for Hillary Clinton, they must do what their conscience tells them to and if NOT voting for Clinton is what they feel, then don't vote for her. Simple as that.


Recursion

(56,582 posts)
11. They'll unite, and they'll lose. Same problem as the last two GOP nominees faced
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:55 PM
May 2016

There just aren't enough white people left to win a national election.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
20. You really don't understand what is going on in this country if you think Trump is not going to be
Fri May 20, 2016, 03:40 AM
May 2016

able to get a certain percentage of minority votes.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
21. "Minority"? Sure, he'll probably do fairly well among south Asians
Fri May 20, 2016, 03:45 AM
May 2016

At least compared to Republicans generally. But "fairly well" means 18% or so, and that's a small demographic to begin with. That won't get him there, though. He'll be in single digits among African Americans, east Asians, and Latinos, and he can't overcome that.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
27. I know a few black legal immigrants and they are like "build the wall"
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:24 AM
May 2016

They are very resentful of people "sneaking in" where they had to go through the fairly onerous immigration process.

It often seems there is no one more right wing than a recent immigrant, they feel that it is "American" to be a winger and culturally they usually lean quite conservative.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
36. His polling
Fri May 20, 2016, 08:25 AM
May 2016

with black americans is marginally higher than the past three R POTUS candidates ...

A few points at best.

msongs

(67,405 posts)
16. do yu really think democrats arent going to unite behind hillary (except the extreme berninistas)?
Fri May 20, 2016, 12:33 AM
May 2016
 

ThePhilosopher04

(1,732 posts)
19. Aren't enough Democrats and a decent percentage
Fri May 20, 2016, 01:57 AM
May 2016

would rather sit naked on a frozen pond in Siberia than ever step foot in a voting booth and pull a lever or push a touchscreen for Hillary Clinton. We've had disaster Republicans in office before, we don't need another one in Hillary Clinton. We can't afford more endless war and disastrous trade policies she's so eager to set forth on the nation.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
34. as opposed to the endless war and disastrous trade policies Trump will bring
Fri May 20, 2016, 07:22 AM
May 2016

not to mention the racism, and the massive financial uncertainty and complete lack of knowledge of world affairs. Anyone who think Trump wouldn't be a complete disaster and take this country down as POTUS is delusional. Hillary would at least be status quo.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
17. Polls say most know little about Trump. He is going to be destroyed because no one can
Fri May 20, 2016, 12:39 AM
May 2016

take him seriously, no one will want that angry buffoon's finger on the button.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
38. hows that smug posting of memes working out for you?
Fri May 20, 2016, 11:43 AM
May 2016

I have to wonder do some of you know how campaigning (or talking to people) s actually done? It's not Snapchat.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
39. I'm not campaigning
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:49 PM
May 2016

I never expected Sanders to win in the first place, I gave him 25% odds at the best.

I am however pointing out that being an idiot is only a very minor impediment at worst to holding high office in America.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
40. Idiot, I agree. Sexist and racist piece of shit, nope. Women and POC vote in greater numbers....
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:16 PM
May 2016

because our lives actually do depend on it. Have for a long time. We are the Dem base, and will not allow Trump to happen.
Why would idiocy - a common GOP affliction - be what stands out for you to describe this hateful bigot? Myopic at best.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
41. We know what your beloved Democrats did in 2000, left the Congressional Black Caucus hanging
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:51 PM
May 2016

Not even Al Gore would stand up for them in the Senate and it was his own damn campaign that got screwed.


frustrated_lefty

(2,774 posts)
24. He'll gain the Indepedents too.
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:04 AM
May 2016

Dems are what, 30% of the electorate? A Trump presidency is going to be so embarrassing.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
26. They absolutely will. Hopefully Democratic Party Leaders will finally realize it is better to work
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:18 AM
May 2016

together with people who identify as Progressives than against them, especially in a year when being Progressive-minded has been a winning selling point the whole campaign.

But maybe not, in which case the chips will fall where they may.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
30. will unite? .... They've already started. some of them are just
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:58 AM
May 2016

Taking a bit longer to walk back all those statements.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
31. They will. The real question for them is "Is that enough?"
Fri May 20, 2016, 06:04 AM
May 2016

Their own post-mortem on 2012 was that they could not win the presidency with essentially a 'whites-only' campaign strategy - that they had to appeal more to women and minorities who are not part of the natural republican base.

Donald is trying to prove that post-mortem was wrong and that a 'whites-only' (largely, not totally, of course) will work at least on last time before demographics consume their party. I don't see how it works for Donald so I think our chances are good. But we have to take him very seriously because demagogues are great campaigners even when their actual policies - to the extent he has any - really suck and they would make horrible presidents.

DinahMoeHum

(21,784 posts)
32. Sadly, they will. Playwright Tony Kushner said it in 2003. . .
Fri May 20, 2016, 07:19 AM
May 2016
http://www.motherjones.com/media/2003/11/tony-kushner-radical-pragmatist

(snip)
". . .here's the thing about politics: It's not an expression of your moral purity and your ethics and your probity and your fond dreams of some utopian future. Progressive people constantly fail to get this.

The GOP has developed a genius for falling into lockstep. . . They line up behind their candidate, grit their teeth, and help him win, no matter who he is. . ."

(snip)
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