Clinton to Californians: Your Votes Will Not Affect the Democratic Primary Whatsoever

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/clinton-to-californians-y_b_10053848.html

You heard her Clinton supporters in California... She is the nominee no reason to get off your butts and mail in your vote or go to the polling places and vote.

[ucrdem]

1. As a California voter I'm happy to assure you that she is correct.

This race has been over for weeks. However, it will be deeply satisfying to help put her over the threshold on June 7.

[anotherproletariat]

6. I'm in CA too, and couldn't be happier that our presidential votes don't matter! nt

[CorporatistNation]

7. After the Revelations That Will be coming Out In The Next Two weeks She Will Be Down For The Count!

Read the NY Times.... It Is Coming... As is the rest of IT!

[brush]

8. You keep talking about something coming but never say what it is.

Chicken Little, anyone?

[YouDig]

12. This time it really is the rapture. No, really it's this time. Ok, next time. Next time!

[ucrdem]

17. Revelation

I think that's the one where the angel slays the dragon

[frylock]

26. ..

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35. You're persistent at lease, and hopeful. Not that grounded in reality though.

[frylock]

39. Oh, it's happening.

It's denial like yours that is going to make watching the emotional breakdowns here quite entertaining.

[brush]

43. Yeah, yeah. Keep praying.

You actually think they are going to negate two years of a hard-fought primary race by indicting the winner of a major party's race when there is no evidence of criminal intent, and thereby give the election over to the opposition party?

Intent being the operative word.

Comey is a fair, sensible guy. He's the one who rushed to Ashcroft's hospital bed in the middle of the night to stop Gonzalez from getting getting Ashcroft to sign off on the NSA overreach.

He's not going to flip-flop history by gifting the election to Trump. BTW, Sanders, being from the tainted party. would be soundly defeated if such an event happened.

But not to worry.

It ain't gonna happen so stop dreaming.

[frylock]

44. I'm atheist.

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46. Stop praying then. It still ain't gonna happen. No criminal intent, no indictment.

[frylock]

47. No clue ^^

[Ned_Devine]

52. Frylock, thank you for your existence here

And no, your name is not lost on me.

[leveymg]

54. But, Officer, I didn't intend to go over 1.0 when I had that last drink before I drove

You can't arrest me. Just let me go. It's all about intent.

To which the officer said, "Now I know you're drunk. Just get out of the car and put your hands on the roof."

[brush]

59. You again, the resident Sanders pusher of the "coming Clinton indictment". You should . . .

know by now since it hasn't happened, it's not going to happen.

Comey himself has said there is no time table for any conclusion to the inquiry (which means the cavalry is not riding to Sanders' rescue).

Multiple legal experts have said there will be no indictment.

What's Gertrude Stein's famous quote — "there is no there, there", so you can stop praying.

It ain't gonna happen.

[leveymg]

60. I agree that an indictment is unlikely. However, FBI will find she violated her security agreement,

and will detail many such violations, but given the extraordinary circumstances that it is more properly the role of the Attorney General to decide whether to prosecute. As the closest historical precedent is the case of John Deutch, Bill Clinton's CIA Director, the most likely outcome will be that the AG runs out the clock without convening a Grand Jury, and the President will pardon Hillary at the end of his term.

However, I think it would be unlikely that she is actually nominated as the Democratic Candidate for President. They have had plenty of time to prepare and implement succession planning. We will see that almost immediately after the FBI report is released. She isn't going to be exonerated, and the party cannot run an unindicted co-conspirator.

[brush]

61. You should be wishing that doesn't happen either as Sanders will then lose in that scenario . . .

being a member of the tainted party.

Trump would win in a landslide.

[leveymg]

62. I'm thinking there's a Biden-Warren "Unity Ticket" ready and waiting in the wings.

If they handle the roll-out with some style and subtlety, maybe Humpty-Dumpty can be put back together again.

But, I am an optimist.

If I'm wrong, this whole thing is just going to go to shit in the GE.

[Flighty McFlight]

67. nonoo..

"I know you're drunk. Just get off the roof with the blow-up doll and put your hands on the roof"

[Flighty McFlight]

66. The minimum she could get is still a felony.

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68. There will be no cavalry riding to Sanders' rescue.

Forget it. It's not happening.

And even if it did, Sanders, a candidate from the tainted party, would lose in a landslide, so you need to stop a wishin' and a hopin' for an indictment to happen.

It won't help Sanders or the party at all.

It would catapult the repugs into the presidency, the House, the Senate and the next 3 SCOTUS justice appointments.

[moriah]

50. In my case it won't be a breakdown, too old and too many times disappointed by pols for that.

It's going to be "Okay, where do we go from here to keep the tangerine troll out of office?" And start doing it.

I already had my vote, though. I don't like anyone feeling like theirs doesn't count for anything -- even if she is the nominee, Bernie supporters in California can still let their votes speak for the desired changes in the party. That's worth a lot.

[Starry Messenger]

51. Samesies!

And as I just posted, HRC's folks are still phone-banking here like crazy. I finally got my ballot in the mail so the calls would cease.

[brooklynite]

2. She's right...Clinton will have enough Delegates from what she gets in New Jersey.

...I don't think we've had a Primary that went down to the last possible State in decades.

[morningfog]

28. No she won't. She needs 255 pledged delegates to clinch.

She will not get that from PR, VI and NJ, even if she won each 100%.

[brooklynite]

34. No, she needs 2,383 Delegate to win...

...between her elected delegates and her Superdelegates, she'll have enough by NJ. You're welcome to imagine that the support she has from Superdelegates won't last, but dreaming doesn't make it so.

[morningfog]

36. You agree that the pledged delegate winner will be and should ne

The nominee, don't you?

[brooklynite]

37. Yes...and unless you imagine that Sanders will win California by 70%, it'll be Clinton.

[morningfog]

42. Then it's a race to secure 2,026 pledged delegates.

I don't doubt it will be Hillary at this point. But she won't clinch it until CA.

[silvershadow]

71. ^^Thank you! You are 100% correct. nt

[onecaliberal]

3. We will fucking see about that.

[grossproffit]

27. Meaning what?

[pinskinny]

4. The world will be watching California, could be quite a embarrasment for Clinton.

[anotherproletariat]

9. The great thing about being so far in the lead is that all she has to do is wait until a couple

of days before the election (remember 80% of Californians vote by mail). Then put out the word through all of her surrogates on every network and cable news show that her internal numbers show that she has a 40 point deficit. Then anything better than that will be cause for celebration...and she will certainly get the 100 delegates she needs to clinch the nomination (from all 7 states voting that day), so the celebration can turn to a victory for getting the nomination. Embarrassment avoided.

It's all about politics.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

11. She needs more than 100 delegates to secure the nomination...

She cannot secure the nomination with pledge delegates alone; that is a fact.

[anotherproletariat]

14. I was waiting for that. Hillary need less than 100 more total delegates.

Everyone will know that she has the nomination when that happens. Why? Because there is no way that Sanders will get many super delegates. They are all party people. They are dedicated to, and dependent on the party for their very political lives. Even if Sanders hadn't spent the last few months disparaging them (and his supporters intimidating them), they would still support Hillary. The nail in Sanders' coffin was calling out the DNC and saying that he would continue to attack Hillary.

Yes, it may seem rigged to you, but it is actually what happens in a Party. People make commitments and know that in politics, their word means being able to continue to receive party support. It means funds for their next election. It means respect from the future president. They will not support Sanders. Sorry.

[pinskinny]

21. Super delegates do not count till the convention, so you will have to deal with what

is gonna happen before the convention and during.

[anotherproletariat]

22. Let see how the MSM handles that. Of course she won't officially be the nominee, but they will call

her the presumptive nominee after June 7. That will mean she's clinched it.

[ucrdem]

23. Yep.

I heard Weaver say today in his NPR interview that "Superdelegates don't vote until the convention." Well, neither do the primary delegates. Another #BernieMeme goes poof.

[onenote]

24. and they didn't count until the convention in 2008

but there wasn't a human being alive who didn't acknowledge that Obama was the nominee before the convention began.

[grossproffit]

29. I know. Bernie is going to win California by 158%!

[morningfog]

30. It's possible she clinches with a 4 lose night.

It's not impossible that she loses MT, SD, ND and CA but still get enough PDs to clinch.

It would be an awkward finish.

[Renew Deal]

41. Obama lost CA in 2008

Didn't work out so bad for him.

[BootinUp]

5. Born and raised in CA, I appreciate her giving the straight facts. nt

[grossproffit]

31. Who knew that math would be such a touchy subject?

[libdem4life]

10. Some of are waiting for the FBI Lady to Sing.

Should be in a couple of weeks. Both Feinstein and the DC Judge are giving out hints that it may not be the cakewalk she's come to expect.

[The Second Stone]

13. I'm going to vote for her in the California primary

there are a lot of the Broletariate out here, so Sanders will do fine, but Hillary will pick up a lot of delegates.

I love how the best Sanders supporters don't think that any of the primaries that have already sealed the deal matter.

[oldandhappy]

15. wow I am a double loser

My vote as a Bernie supporter does not matter to her and my vote in California does not matter to her.

[Doctor_J]

16. Almost a million NEW voters registered in California. She would like it if they stay home

Same old same old

[NanceGreggs]

32. And they're all voting for Bernie? n/t

[JudyM]

38. Hopefully half of them wont find themselves mysteriously registered republicans on primary day.

[jaceaf]

18. Californians understand how this works

As a Californian, we accept that as the greatest state in the nation, there are some downsides. We get all the nice weather, the great diversity and in return I grew up not getting anything live. NO Grease live for us. No, Super Bowl in prime time. And in the presidential election, there's no suspense by the time our polls close. It doesn't mean our vote doesn't matter. It doesn't keep us from voting. We have tons of senate and congress people to send.

And 3 votes for Hillary are in the mail from my household!

[-none]

19. Whenever I hear anyone saying anything like that, it's like they know, or think the fix is in place.

And with the election frauds, exit polls not matching the vote counts and the voter disenfranchisement and funny voter rolls, they are probably right.

[bettyellen]

20. Umm, do you expect people to find the part that concerns you in a 25 minute video?

It is over for SBS. Was she a bit blunt about it? I like that she can be blunt.

[frylock]

25. She's just trying to downplay her inevitable loss in Cali.

That is going to make for some terrible optics, and Trump is going to run hard with that.

[auntpurl]

57. Yeah, it sure sunk Obama in 08

Oh wait.

[frylock]

58. Hillary is no Obama.

[amborin]

33. another anti-democracy move by the annointed one

[Renew Deal]

40. Hillary will have won the nomination before California stops voting.

She could lose the state 100-0 and still win it.

[k8conant]

49. Wrong: she needs 670 of the 781 remaining PDs to reach 2383

and 313 to reach 2026.

If she got none of California's 475, she could only get 306 if she won all of the remaining delegates.

#berniemath is real math. (Heck, this is simple arithmetic)

[pmorlan1]

45. Ugh

I shouldn't have watched that because it just reinforced why I am not a Hillary supporter. I finally shut it off when she used love and kindness on the question about her mother. All I could see were those Love & Kindness ads. In my eyes she is so fake. There were a lot of parts in this video that riled me up but I'm not even going to bother listing them here. UGH!

[msongs]

48. more BS from the BS crowd - its ok when bernie says he is going win but bad when she says it

[barrow-wight]

55. At least when she says it it's true. LOL

[barrow-wight]

56. Where does she say that in that way to California?

If she were ahead by 1,000 delegates, or even 2,000, would you say that she was saying California votes don't matter? If she were to bow out and concede to Bernie now, as so many have asked her to do, would you still accuse her of saying that California votes don't matter because she was bowing out before they got a chance to vote? She is saying she will be the nominee because she will be. Ever race Sanders competes in, he is falling short of the necessary percentage required to win, which in turn drives the require percentage up higher. I believe it's currently at 67% that he needs of the remaining pledged delegates simply to tie with Clinton and, unless he is significantly higher than she, I doubt very much that the superdelegates will switch, not with the increasingly horrific behavior going on towards Supers and other members of the party. If I were a super and saw how Bernie barely criticized the kind of behavior such as calling Roberta Lange's non-political place of work to demand she be fired only to add justification after his critique, I'd never, ever switch and I cannot believe that my perspective on that behavior is so unreasonable as to not be shared by any of those party stalwarts.

[JSup]

69. She doesn't...

...it's the Huffpost style of thread titles; post it like it is a quote but don't put quotation marks and people will think it is a quote.

A lot of them are like so: "Politician To <group>: Drop Dead"

[barrow-wight]

70. hehehehe

[Mz Pip]

63. When was the last time CA mattered?

Unless the primary schedule gets changed CA will continue to be irrelevant.

Until that time, this is how it works.

We're used to it.

[Waiting For Everyman]

64. Omg! She is painfully, mindnumbingly boring!

Ten minutes of listening to her feels like an hour! And she never says anything. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[felix_numinous]

65. Acting like she won already

nothing about California, nothing about the multiple contested states, and nothing specific about what she 'saw' in NV--all of this doublespeak says nothing yet implies we the people are not even on her radar.