Washington Times? "Sanders supporters readying protests for DNC convention"

[TomCADem]

I just do not get why right wing outlets seem so eager to support Bernie when poll after poll shows that he is the better candidate against Trump. Bernie would be their worst nightmare.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/19/sanders-supporters-ready-protests-dnc-convention/

Liberals love their protests and creating mayhem in order to get their point of view across. That’s why the Democratic National Convention in July is going to be so much fun.

According to The Wall Street Journal, at least five of the nine permit applications to hold demonstrations during the Philadelphia Democratic Convention have been filed by supporters of Vermont Sen. Bernard Sanders. The groups planning the protests are The Berners, Black Men for Bernie, Movement for Bernie and Bernie or Bust, according to the Journal.

I guess you reap what you sow.

Not one Republican candidate’s supporters have filed protest applications with the Cleveland city government, where the Republican National Convention will be held, though six permit applications have been received, according to the Journal. Most likely they’re from the same professional, liberal agitators that have been following Donald Trump around.

[SidDithers]

1. Here, let me 'splain...

Right wing media props up Bernie because doing so is a way for them to attack Hillary "from the left". They, like everyone else in the world, know that Hillary will be the Democratic nominee, so they're trying to bleed support from her in advance of the General Election.

And some on the fringe left are only too eager to lap up their spin.

Sid

[HooptieWagon]

2. Trump can already attack her from the left on several issues.

And there's such a large number of voters to Clinton's left, it's logical that Trump would try to pick a few up. It's certainly a lot easier than fighting over the minuscule number of voters between them.

[BootinUp]

39. You really didn't address issue, but you since you brought up Trump and his "positions"

I suppose you might have noticed he makes them up as he goes. The fact that you lend him any credence at all for attacking from a "position" indicates to me that you are all too eager to twist an argument to defend Sanders.

[larkrake]

3. Liberals are democrats and deserve just as loud a voice. Would you silence half the populace?

Of course DNC hates him he is a fly in their corporate ointment and his movement has exposed the queen

Protests are democracy. 3rd way is oppression

[barrow-wight]

4. I am very worried for the people of Philadelphia.

I can't help feeling like there is going to be extreme violence there on the part of a certain candidate's supporters.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

5. How much is Brock paying you? nt

[Art_from_Ark]

6. 30 pieces of silver would be my guess

[barrow-wight]

9. I don't think a day goes by when I don't see Bernie compared in some way to Jesus.

I think that is what scares me more than anything else about this candidate—that people treat him like his a religious figure deserving of worship, devotion, and blind action. He reminds me of the High Sparrow from Game of Thrones and I worry we'll be seeing something along the lines of the Faith Militant before long.

[pinebox]

11. I'd rather have my candidate be Jesus than David Koresh, but hey!

[barrow-wight]

13. Just because you compare him to Jesus, doesn't mean he's actually Jesus.

Frankly, after his refusal to seriously reel in the darker contingents of his supporters, I think much less like Jesus and much more like the other person you compared him to.

[Art_from_Ark]

12. LOL

"30 pieces of silver" has come into secular use to refer to someone who is willing to do something of questionable repute for very little money.

Nice try at smearing Bernie's supporters, though.

[barrow-wight]

14. Strange.

I see daily religious comparisons across my Facebook newsfeed comparing Bernie in some way to Christ.

It truly frightens me because I remember others who were compared thus in decades past.

[Art_from_Ark]

19. Oh, for crying out loud

My reference was strictly secular, for the reason I have already given.

[barrow-wight]

21. One never can tell, can one?

When religious references abound, it's sorta hard to know when someone is just using a manner of expression. Hillary's misguided "Off there Reservation" comment comes to mind.

[bunnies]

52. You must have a ton of links to post then.

Please post them. I'm interested in reading all the Bernie as Jesus pieces.

[JRLeft]

53. David Brock would be so proud.

[barrow-wight]

58. You may be right.

I'm sure he shares my opinion. Alas, it remains my opinion.

[JustinL]

29. I'm a "person of Philadelphia". You can keep your worry.

I don't want an oppressive military occupation of my city.

[barrow-wight]

36. I don't blame you.

[Samantha]

30. If I had joined this website May 17, I would think twice about weighing in discussing violence

One might make the wrong impression opening up discussing violence and suggesting a strong military presence is desirable at the convention. Why the military and not just the usual local police representation? Bernie Sanders' supporters are peaceful people who do request permits to exercise their second amendment privileges. It is the ones who show up without permits one has to worry about.

As far as Nevada is concerned, that state should be disqualified from the count. We will never know who truly won the state to begin with since the Harry Reid influence arrived in town the week of the vote when Hillary was tanking in the polling. He contacted his friends who ran businesses there and asked them to allow their workers time off to vote. Many of them did. Scores of those workers arrived en masse to cast their vote, and even though many of them were not even registered, the poll workers allowed them to vote, gave them registration papers and told them to complete them later and turn them in. So this was just the start of the Nevada voting process, and it was all downhill from there.

David Brock has the reputation he has earned over the years, and most people here are very familiar with his "work" as well as that of Mark Penn. Both of them are experts in political dirty work and tricks. People who perform the very specific type of work these two are historically known for deserve the criticism they receive.

Welcome to DU ....

Sam

[barrow-wight]

34. So you think it is wrong that Harry Reid convinced businesses to allow workers time to vote?

And what does that mean you're suggesting about Bernie supporters there? Were they not also working and thus now allowed to vote as a result of Senator Reid's actions?

As for my joining on May 17th, what does that have to do with anything? Do my decades of opinions have no value because I haven't spent all that time sharing them here?

[Samantha]

37. The point was many were not registered voters so they were not eligible to vote (eom)

[barrow-wight]

38. I find it hard to believe they were able to.

Where's your proof on this?

[Samantha]

41. I found it hard to believe as well but it was reported here

Do a site-search if you would like proof.

Sam

[barrow-wight]

42. The onus is on you, not me.

So until you provide it, I'll assume you made it up.

[Samantha]

46. Go right ahead

and since my initial impression of you seems to be on target, I will just go ahead and put you on Ignore.

Sam

[barrow-wight]

47. Whatever.

[bobbobbins01]

8. Agreed.

I'll be there protesting and I fully expect to get pepper sprayed at the very least, but I wouldn't put billy clubs and rubber bullets past them either. The establishment candidates goons will be out in full force.

[barrow-wight]

10. If you are protesting non-violently, then nothing should happen.

I am far more worried about the violent contingent such as the types who threaten to cut tongues out of superdelegate mouths.

[Art_from_Ark]

15. And just who is making those kinds of threats?

Got any proof of actual people, or are you just spreading yet another lie?

[barrow-wight]

17. Well there was that guy who threatened to cut out a super delegate's tongue.

And I've seen several calls for violent revolution on my Facebook newsfeed and not just a few veiled inferences to it from people on here trucking around JFK's quote about the necessity of violent revolution. And I've seen numerous threats towards superdelegates. And then of course there were those people calling Roberta Lange's place of work and then bragging about it. But you're just going to pretend that all away aren't you?

[Art_from_Ark]

20. What guy? Who made the threat?

Provide the proof. Otherwise you're just blowing wind.

[barrow-wight]

22. Here is the proof.

"King County prosecutors claim Jasper K. Bell made the threat because he was upset that McDermott, D-Seattle, was supporting Hilary Clinton for president. Currently jailed, Bell, 27, has been charged with intimidating a public servant and telephone harassment."

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/crime/article/Threatened-Rep-Jim-McDermott-armed-himself-7381914.php

No thanks are necessary. The truth is all I need to satisfy.

[barrow-wight]

24. I'm hoping they keep Mr. Bell jailed until after the Philadelphia convention.

Otherwise, I am concerned his actions might define the day.

[Art_from_Ark]

26. So one guy goes off the deep end

But not as deep as this Hillary supporter, who actually assaulted a Bernie supporter

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/05/16/wendell-pierce-actor-and-social-activist-arrested-for-allegedly-attacking-bernie-sanders-supporter/

[barrow-wight]

32. So now you're going to change the goalpost?

You asked me for proof. I gave you proof. The perpetrator I linked to was also arrested, dear. Try to keep up.

[bobbobbins01]

16. Yeah, tell that to these folks.

I'm much more frightened of the establishments capacity for violence than some cooked up boogeymen.

[barrow-wight]

18. We all have our boogeymen.

[Art_from_Ark]

23. Your boogeymen are Sanders supporters

Because people who want peace, who want economic and social justice for everyone, who want a better world, are soooo scary.

[Art_from_Ark]

27. You admitted you have boogeymen

"Those Sanders supporters scare me"

Maybe you should just hide under the bed, dear.

[barrow-wight]

31. Nah. They scare me because they're real.

[Art_from_Ark]

33. LOL

You're just blowing wind out your posterior.

[barrow-wight]

35. Except that I gave you the proof you asked for and you moved the goalpost.

[Major Nikon]

44. Results...

On Thu May 19, 2016, 11:28 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

LOL
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2011862

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Is it really necessary for posters to be this ad hominem?

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu May 19, 2016, 11:45 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Rude but not hide worthy
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: While the post in question is in poor taste and the poster sounds like a total jerk, this doesn't rise to the level of hide-worthy.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Personal attack, over the top.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No, but it is hilarious.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Annoying complaint, boilerplate chutzbah
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Pretty mild I think.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Oh, please.

[Cobalt Violet]

40. you should seek professional help for your paranoia

Life is so much fuller when you aren't help back by irrational fears. Maybe you watch too much propaganda on TV.

[barrow-wight]

43. What is worse, paranoia or delusion?

It definitely requires a healthy dose of the latter to continue to believe Bernie has any chance of becoming the nominee for the party.

[John Poet]

48. 'Extreme violence'? Such as picking up a chair, waving it around,

and then placing it back on the ground
without even smacking any fascists with it?

Yeah. Could happen. Roll out the fainting couches.

[barrow-wight]

56. Fascists?

No, that's not over the top.

[HooptieWagon]

55. Your 'concern' is noted.

Tell Brock we said hi.

[barrow-wight]

57. When you can't address a point, do you always attempt to undermine the poster personally?

There are people who actually have opinions other than yours who aren't paid to have them.

[NanceGreggs]

28. If Bernie is the GOP's "worst nightmare" ...

... how do you explain why they have continued to attack HRC - which could only strengthen Bernie's position, rather than weakening it?

How do you explain why the Republicans have laid off Bernie for an entire year, if they are so terrified of running against him?

I guess it's not unlike BernieMath - one has to suspend all connection with reality and common sense in order to "get" it.

[John Poet]

49. Sort of like the way one has to suspend all connection with reality

and common sense in order to accept Hillary as "a progressive" ?

[NanceGreggs]

59. Care to answer the question?

If the GOP is "terrified" of running against Bernie, as many BSers have been saying here since the campaigns began, why are they laying off Bernie and attacking HRC - a move that only serves to weaken the candidate they're allegedly NOT afraid of?

[BootinUp]

45. Tool: n. A person used to carry out the designs of another; a dupe.

[MrMickeysMom]

50. Moony South Korean Newspaper Jaggoff headlines...

Here's my headline -


The DEMOCRATIC PARTY'S Super-Delegates, who previously did not exist, should be created to curb the people the party represents, should the people's numbers become too big to push their ideas to those who represent them!

[surrealAmerican]

51. If only these people had some sort of confidence that ...

... they would be heard inside the convention, they would be less inclined to take this route to be heard.

[brooklynite]

54. What exactly will you be protesting at that point?

A last minute change of heart on the nominee by Superdelegates?

Platform planks that the Committee will already have voted on?

Free Mumia?