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NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
Fri May 20, 2016, 08:36 AM May 2016

The Supreme Court is going to drastically change in the next eight years.

The importance of this is monumental. It cannot be ignored.

Trump:

Mr. Trump’s selections consisted of six federal appeals court judges appointed by President George W. Bush and five state supreme court justices appointed by Republican governors. All are white, and eight of the 11 are men.

Several of the judges on Mr. Trump’s list have questioned abortion rights. They included Raymond W. Gruender, a judge on the Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit who led a majority that permitted South Dakota to enforce a law requiring doctors to tell women that abortions “terminate the life of a whole, separate, unique living human being.”

They also included William H. Pryor Jr. of the 11th Circuit, whose appointment Senate Democrats had tried to block in part because, in his previous role as Alabama attorney general, he denounced Roe v. Wade, the 1973 ruling that established a constitutional right to abortion, as having manufactured “a constitutional right to murder an unborn child.”

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/05/19/us/politics/donald-trump-supreme-court-nominees.html?referer=

To those claiming you won't show up, you are my opposition. To those working against Democrats, you are my opposition. I know some of our new friends like to act as if some of these items are wedge issues. You could be no more wrong. We could have our rights rolled back in a major way. That is not hyperbole.

Equality for women is a human right. Equality for minorities is a human right. Equality for LGBQT is a human right.





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The Supreme Court is going to drastically change in the next eight years. (Original Post) NCTraveler May 2016 OP
It won't if corporate dems keep nominating the Merrick Garland's JRLeft May 2016 #1
If we win the White House and Senate and hold on to them there will be no need to nominate upaloopa May 2016 #3
If the democratic party wins the election Garland will be confirmed in December. JRLeft May 2016 #6
even if he is dsc May 2016 #23
If my aunt had nads she'd be my uncle. frylock May 2016 #26
There was no need to nominate him in the first place. ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #29
Millennials will be the ones most affected time wise by a Trump Supreme court. upaloopa May 2016 #2
It will be horrible for them, spending most of their lives under a right-wing SCOTUS. RKP5637 May 2016 #5
Merrick Garland makes the court 5-4 in the GOP's favor. JRLeft May 2016 #7
There will be several vacancies in the coming years to fill. upaloopa May 2016 #9
We hope so. It's also possible that Thomas and Kennedy live 8 more years. JRLeft May 2016 #11
The "new" democratic party has left me, so I changed to unaffiliated. n/t RKP5637 May 2016 #10
that is complete bullshit dsc May 2016 #24
Democrats want to make cuts to social security and Medicare. JRLeft May 2016 #13
Yep, often D=R. So sad and pathetic. n/t RKP5637 May 2016 #16
If you ask Hillary supporters those democrats are progressives. JRLeft May 2016 #17
It's a split party under one tent with seams breaking. n/t RKP5637 May 2016 #19
The neoliberal control over the party is in its last throws or the democratic party will split. JRLeft May 2016 #20
Yep, many have had it with fake democrats. n/t RKP5637 May 2016 #21
I expect Hillary you be the next president and I expect a ground war. JRLeft May 2016 #22
What I was wondering the other day was NewJeffCT May 2016 #8
Yes 4-3 Sets Precedent Stallion May 2016 #25
THIS is my issue leftynyc May 2016 #4
Koch's list > Heritage Foundation list > Trump's list. Hortensis May 2016 #12
Only if a Democratic candidate wins the White House. samsingh May 2016 #14
? Hortensis May 2016 #15
I can't believe people think Garland and one of these picks would be the same MattP May 2016 #18
The blackmail argument is hard to make when those that allow hard right candidates mmonk May 2016 #27
It is a fact that SC appointments are nominated by the President. NCTraveler May 2016 #31
It's amazing you even have the guts to reply to anything I say. mmonk May 2016 #34
Better get your ass in gear and vote for Bernie Sanders if the Supreme Court is your issue. ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #28
I voted for Clinton in Florida. NCTraveler May 2016 #30
Yes! Idea? Let's nominate more moderate and lite republicans! YEAH nc4bo May 2016 #32
Until we have full rights in all fifty states, no liberal can call our issues a wedge. bettyellen May 2016 #33

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
3. If we win the White House and Senate and hold on to them there will be no need to nominate
Fri May 20, 2016, 08:44 AM
May 2016

Merrick Garlands.

We need to vote come November and in off year elections. It is in our hands if were are willing to take the responsibility

dsc

(52,162 posts)
23. even if he is
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:21 AM
May 2016

and frankly I think Obama would withdraw him if we won the Senate and the White House, that is one seat. We would likely get at least 2 and more probably up to 4 appointees in those 8 years (all but Obama's 3 counting Garland plus Bush's 2 being replaced in the 8 years).

 

ThePhilosopher04

(1,732 posts)
29. There was no need to nominate him in the first place.
Fri May 20, 2016, 01:01 PM
May 2016

Settling is what's wrong with the Democratic party. They have a glass jaw when it comes to fighting and just rollover and cave at every turn. Kinda like the Washington Generals to the Harlem Globetrotters. Makes one wonder ...

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
2. Millennials will be the ones most affected time wise by a Trump Supreme court.
Fri May 20, 2016, 08:41 AM
May 2016

I am 70 and will be gone while these right wing judges will still be on the bench. Millennials will live the rest of their lives under the rule of law authored by conservatives.

Their future is in their hands come November.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
5. It will be horrible for them, spending most of their lives under a right-wing SCOTUS.
Fri May 20, 2016, 08:45 AM
May 2016

I hope people are really paying attention. I want to see a democrat in the WH 2016. And, under a Trump presidency, it will open the door to all types of right-wing shenanigans.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
11. We hope so. It's also possible that Thomas and Kennedy live 8 more years.
Fri May 20, 2016, 08:54 AM
May 2016

If we have an economic collapse, it's a chance we get a GOP president after 4.

dsc

(52,162 posts)
24. that is complete bullshit
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:22 AM
May 2016

Garland wouldn't be my top pick but on the issues the OP raised Garland would be a reliable liberal vote by all indications.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
13. Democrats want to make cuts to social security and Medicare.
Fri May 20, 2016, 08:55 AM
May 2016

Mrs. Payday loans wants to stick it to them even more.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
20. The neoliberal control over the party is in its last throws or the democratic party will split.
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:12 AM
May 2016

Not this election cycle but likely the next one.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
8. What I was wondering the other day was
Fri May 20, 2016, 08:49 AM
May 2016

Scalia passed away a few months ago... Clarence Thomas almost always voted in unison with Scalia - they were buddy-buddy. Sometimes, if one partner in an elderly married couple passes away, the other spouse will sometimes die soon afterwards. I wonder if something like that happened with Thomas, Democrats would have a 4-3 edge on the Court, would Republicans suddenly change their minds about Garland?

Also, when the court is deadlocked at 4-4, the lower court decision stands, but it does not set precedent. Does a 4-3 SCotUS decision set precedent? Does it take a full court to set precedent?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
4. THIS is my issue
Fri May 20, 2016, 08:45 AM
May 2016

Nothing else even comes close. And I agree, those not voting because they didn't get the candidate of their choice are my opposition.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. Koch's list > Heritage Foundation list > Trump's list.
Fri May 20, 2016, 08:55 AM
May 2016

Their extremist conservative/libertarian intent is to reduce the federal government to military and police functions and to allow a dog-eat-dog socioeconomic hierarchy to take over by packing the court with people from that list who will reinterpret the Constitution out of all recognition. Almost all state government functions would eventually also be eliminated, also, such as public education and publicly funded hospitals.

Conservatives who support this never seem to notice how exactly this system would replicate those of impoverished, underdeveloped nations ruled by a small group of families supporting the current dictator. They think it'd be different here because we're supposedly a white and Protestant Christian nation, and therefore a totally superior breed of humankind.

There is also the very real possibility that in the process the religious and social right would join with business to accelerate the move to outright fascism. The Kochs claim to be libertarian, which has so profitably justified unbridled greed and excused all criminal activity in their minds, but it's very likely they are at base fascistic authoritarian conservatives like their John Bircher, Nazi-admiring father.

MattP

(3,304 posts)
18. I can't believe people think Garland and one of these picks would be the same
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:08 AM
May 2016

That's like saying Kagan and Thomas are the same

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
27. The blackmail argument is hard to make when those that allow hard right candidates
Fri May 20, 2016, 12:49 PM
May 2016

to be seated on the courts when the opposition doesn't allow Democratic candidates to take a seat on the courts. You become nothing less than the boy that cried wolf.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
31. It is a fact that SC appointments are nominated by the President.
Fri May 20, 2016, 01:25 PM
May 2016

There is simply no blackmail here. This is reality and I have no interest in blackmailing you nor do I have the dirt that would be necessary to blackmail you. I really have no clue who you are outside of a poster on a message board promoting the thought that they are being blackmailed.

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
34. It's amazing you even have the guts to reply to anything I say.
Fri May 20, 2016, 02:44 PM
May 2016

And you know why. I've never even been cross with you.

 

ThePhilosopher04

(1,732 posts)
28. Better get your ass in gear and vote for Bernie Sanders if the Supreme Court is your issue.
Fri May 20, 2016, 12:58 PM
May 2016

He's the only chance we have to beat Trump.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
33. Until we have full rights in all fifty states, no liberal can call our issues a wedge.
Fri May 20, 2016, 01:26 PM
May 2016

Anyone who does is a self centered libertarian nut job in my book.

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