I'm a Bernie supporter but a realist, not only will Bernie back Hillary. He will campaign for her.

[JRLeft]

She will lie about implementing a few of his ideas and half-heartedly campaign on them.

[VulgarPoet]

1. I don't even think she'll go that far.

I'll vote for her, but I won't support or campaign for her. Far as I'm concerned, both her and Trump are the electoral version of shit sandwiches, Trump is just worse.

[JRLeft]

4. I agreed to vote for her months ago. I was going to max out. I won't give her a dime.

I'm voting against Trump. I'm switching to Independent after June 7th.

[VulgarPoet]

10. And I'm staying Independent-- I half considered switching to Dem, but Texas was a semi-open.

I have no real reason to change my affiliation, especially with the DLC's fuckery.

[JRLeft]

12. I feel it. I'm switching on June 8th.

[RKP5637]

32. I'm gone, went unaffiliated when I finally realized what the "new" democratic party

is all about. So have many others. The DNC/DLC/3rd-Way/DWS showed me the door out. I'll vote democratic by the candidate.

[JRLeft]

38. That makes 2 of us, all though she has my vote in November. That will be my last corporatist vote.

[Maedhros]

65. Voted for Bernie on Tuesday, switched registration on Wednesday.[n/t]

[RKP5637]

7. Both Hillary and Trump, highest unfavorably in decades sure tells a lot! n/t

[Hiraeth]

26. what happened that I don't know about? Has Bernie resigned from his campaign?

[djean111]

2. I am a Bernie supporter, I know that Hillary would be lying if she said she would change

anything for Bernie. If Hillary is the nominee, I will not be having a damned thing to do with the GE. Won't read about it, won't watch it, won't even be registered as Democrat after the Florida primary in August. Bernie will do what he feels he must do, and I respect that. But I will not be supporting a Third War warmonger.

[JRLeft]

6. I understand.

[Merryland]

3. If Bernie doesn't want to lead the revolution he helped spur

someone else will.

[uponit7771]

8. We agree on this, the revolution will wait on a leader and do nothing in between...

... revolutions don't wait on leaders, they start at the ground without them.

No one waited on MLK

[JRLeft]

11. The DNC must be gutted or disregarded.

[uponit7771]

13. Yeap, burn the village down to save it.. where have people heard that before?!

[JRLeft]

16. No, it means replace the leadership.

We must take it over. Remove the lobbyists, neoliberals, and neoconservatives from power.

[uponit7771]

22. That would take mobilizing people and getting them to polls and not just anger. I haven't seen this

... revolution do anything like that including in this primary.

Seems more focused on being angry and doing little, including voting in this primary...

A real leader of a revolution would focus people to a change, no just whining about a rigged system that the long shot black guy won with in 08.

[JRLeft]

30. It's called getting on party boards and changing rules. That is how you get real progressives on

the ballot.

[uponit7771]

33. Very true, we'll see... Sanders continues and we win congress and Clinton cedes power to the...

... speaker of the house like FDR had to seeing the FDR congress had veto proof numbers.

We'll see

[JRLeft]

36. Sanders supporters are already raising money for the midterm elections.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

55. Yes!

[JRLeft]

56. People believe we're uninformed but we're already focused on 2018.

[RKP5637]

35. Exactly!!! Millions and millions are fed up, it's not going away. n/t

[pinskinny]

5. He may just do that, but I think we are way past the point where he can just say

lets all support Hillary Clinton. I think half the people that support the anti establishment have other plans and in no way shape or form will hop on board.

Can she win losing about 6 million voters that Obama had? Not sure, we will have to wait and see.


These people are not Puma's, their anti establishment people that dislike everything about the candidate and the elites that run the part..

[JRLeft]

9. There may be 30% of his voters who won't vote for her I think that number shrinks by August.

[Florencenj2point0]

14. she won't lie

but he did, he won't back her. he lied about raising money for down ticket races. He lied about running a clean campaign. She never attacked him. She has been nothing but gracious and he has been an angry finger wagging scold.

[JRLeft]

18. He will, if he didn't I would be surprised.

[liberalnarb]

20. "She never attacked him"

Talk about LYING.

[winter is coming]

27. I got a big laugh out of "gracious".

Gracious people don't use David Brock.

[liberalnarb]

29. No kidding.

We need to find a cure for MSM addiction. Good god.

[VulgarPoet]

31. Gracious?

What universe are you from that that's a valid descriptor for her? Last I remember, hiring David Brock to ratfuck your opponent is the direct opposite of "gracious".

[SamKnause]

15. I respect what ever choice Bernie makes.

I am sure he will respect my choice as well.

[Sheepshank]

17. I don't think he will support her in any real and robust way

I think his ego is way to fragile to look past the Primary campaign losses.

[JRLeft]

21. Wrong, he will campaign like hell for her. If he doesn't she's in trouble.

[liberalnarb]

24. Clinton's entire political career has been an ego trip.

[JonLeibowitz]

25. bookmarking.

[JRLeft]

34. Please do, kick it when he does exactly what I just said.

[Ron Green]

19. Hillary is the plan, always has been.

The fact that Bernie will probably support her and that she'll do jack shit in return, and that enough Dems will go along with all this, shows us how lost we are in the 21st Century.

[Maedhros]

66. That's the real tragedy. Rank-and-file Democrats have set the bar so low for their candidates

that empty rhetoric is all they expect.

[Ron Green]

67. And the awfulness of Trump makes Hillary's awfulness

go down somewhat easier. People forget the big picture: Both parties are beholden to a system that's got to be replaced, one that only Bernie, of all the presidential candidates in recent history, has spoken of.

[Hiraeth]

23. How do you KNOW all this? How is this factual and not pure conjecture on your part?

[lapfog_1]

28. pretty much

I think Hillary will do OK on social issues...

Despite her previous flip flops on gay rights and marriage equality and abortion (she is now apparently, open to more abortion restrictions).

I think on the environment... and the biggest issue facing humanity (global warming and energy)... she would be only slightly better than Trump... her corporate backers will lobby for no change in regulations (and maybe for even further relaxation of regulations). So we "kick the can down the road" on global warming. Only problem is that there may not be that much more road left.

As for economic policies... they will not benefit the working class... outsourcing will continue and move more aggressively into the white collar sector (all those information economy jobs will be going overseas too).

And on foreign policy...

there is this statement from Robert Kagan (a co-founder of PNAC... for those who don't know what PNAC is, better start reading up on it):

In 2014, Kagan foreshadowed his endorsement of Hillary Clinton during an interview with the New York Times. “I feel comfortable with her on foreign policy,” he said. “If she pursues a policy which we think she will pursue, it’s something that might have been called neocon, but clearly her supporters are not going to call it that; they are going to call it something else."

[amborin]

37. I hope Bernie does NOT support her, and I don't think he will

[JRLeft]

39. He will.

[Triana]

40. No doubt. AFTER the primaries are over. N/t

[LibDemAlways]

41. I think Bernie will give her the most half-hearted

"endorsement" ever, suggest that his supporters make up their own minds, and then return to Vermont for a nice long vacation...before continuing to speak out, just as he always has, on issues of inequality, climate change, and the general ratfucking of the USA that will continue unabated under either Team Hillary or Team Trump.

[JRLeft]

42. If he does it hurts her and there will be a price to pay after the election aka no power in the

Senate.

[JRLeft]

49. The party elite won't care.

[jeff47]

51. Of course they will care. His donor list can provide far more money than theirs. (nt)

[JRLeft]

52. I donate a penny to her or t he DNC.

[jeff47]

53. Which makes his donor list even more important.

The money won't be going to the DNC or Clinton. But there are lots and lots of other Democratic races, and they could really, really, really use that grassroots money and support.

That's why Pelosi was defending Sanders yesterday. She knows that donor list could win a lot of House races.

[Robbins]

43. Doen't matter

I still won't vote for her.she is enemy of what bernie and his supporters believe in.I won't vote trump that isn't an option for me.

all the voter fraud and suppession plus truth about where she is on issues is non-starter for me.and i am not alone.

Bernie endorsing her won't get me to vote for her.

[JRLeft]

44. I understand your sentiment.

[Robbins]

45. Listen

If this had been a fair primary without all the bias by DNC and without voter fraud and suppression which they never tried to hide
and it's not just nevada and arizona and she won fair and square i may have held my noise and voted for her but it didn't happen
that way.add to that how i have been personally attacked as white male liberal by clintons,their surrgotes,and their supporters.

Clinton isn't even trying to fool progressives.She is going full tilt to right by courting bush donors and saying i repserente your values more than Trump.She is proving every liberal or progressive who over years never bought the she is liberal claim right.

I won't bash any fellow bernie supporter who holds noise to vote for her against trump but as disabled guy on SSI,medicaid,and
food stamps I am screwed eather way.She makes vague promises but she has ruled out fighting to raise cap for SS,SSI,medicare,and medicaid.There is no gurantee she would fight republicans from gutting food stamps and medicaid.and clinton
is loved by neocon.and more war can cause cuts to social programs because she and GOP certinly won't raise taxes on the rich to
pay for more war.I don't vote against my self intrests.and I oppose war in middle east no matter if it's dem or GOP pushing for it.

I may be white but i oppose militazion of police too,and get furious when we hear about execution of young black men like we had
here in Missouri In ferguson.Missouri shows when it comes to race dems can be useless.even here In Missouri the dems elected statewide wouldn't gotten there without black vote.So while clinton supporters and her surrogates On MSM may want to call every
white male who supports Bernie a racist people should remember this.but,then again when bernie was swiftboated on race by clintons with support of black dems i shouldn't be surprised with this attitude.

[JRLeft]

46. She's a neoliberal/neocon.

[JPnoodleman]

47. Bernie may do what he does, I will never vote for a Clinton.

Down ticket I will cast votes based on who supports my issues, but Clinton means war and TPP which is tantamount to treason in my eyes. I will never back someone with that sort of bloody greedy policy.

[eissa]

54. Of course he will

He has a legacy to think of, and wouldn't want to be known as another Nader-type spoiler. Unlike Nader, who pops up every four years to provide comments no one asked for, Bernie has a Senate career and colleagues to return to.

Bernie has said repeatedly that this campaign is "not me, us." That even if he won the Presidency, the people would fuel the change. Well, that shouldn't change. Revolutions don't start from the top down. It means we continue to push for candidates to run not only in national elections, but in city councils and school boards. Make changes at the local level, where people will feel it. That's what the revolution is about.

[andym]

57. IF Hillary really wins, still a big IF, then Bernie will endorse Hillary

But that doesn't mean he would be endorsing everything she stands for or did in the past. It doesn't mean he buys into her positions 100%. It means that he believes that Hillary in total represents enough of what he does believe to support: increased child care, civil rights for LGBT etc.

[JRLeft]

58. She won't do none of those things.

[andym]

62. Real question is does she want to do "any of those things" child care etc

Why is that the real question? Because I think the gerrymandering means the House will remain GOP the entire term of the next President. So neither Hillary nor Bernie will be able to get any progressive program passed.

The answer to my question is that I think so, she has long advocated increasing child care and has been supportive (but not as much as Bernie) of LGBT. The thing with Hillary is that she never gets ahead of the trend, she follows it. Bernie is trying to make the trend.

[Orsino]

59. Yep. Neither is stupid or weak enough for any other outcome. n/t

[Joob]

60. I'm a Bernie supporter, determined to campaign against corruption. No matter what.

[nadinbrzezinski]

61. And I am a realist

This election fully opened my eyes to how crooked US elections are. Who I vote does not matter. It is the central tabulator.

We are in a new nasty age. And yes, he will campaign for her and endorse her. We will dutifully cover it. But I will watch the show and nothing more.

[pdsimdars]

63. I don't agree. You are stating that without any other conditions

If Hillary does not convince Bernie that she will pursue a progressive agenda, I don't think he will.
I think he will only campaign for issues he believes in and not just for party or candidate. That seems to be a major difference between them. Bernie has REAL CONVICTIONS. Hillary has talking points of convenience to suite the occassion. That's why she doesn't understand him.

[Attorney in Texas]

64. Tthis is beyond debate. Sanders will OF COURSE back and campaign for Hillary. The question's whether

the Sanders-led movement will follow Sanders' lead in whole, for the most part, or in a negligibly small way.

How things are worked out with respect to the convention, the platform, the party rules reform, the running mate, and the bad blood accrued in the interim are factors that will effect whether the Sanders-led movement will follow Sanders' lead in whole, in large part, or in a small way.

Anyone who doubts that Sanders will back and campaign for Hillary is not a student of the Sanders campaign.