NYT: Front Page Top Center: Record High Unfavorables of Hillary

[amborin]

http://www.nytimes.com/images/2016/05/20/nytfrontpage/scan.pdf

[uponit7771]

1. Yeap, she's doing pretty good seeing she has two people attack her from both sides as unqualified...

... but of course Sanders should stay in and fight (unless its the "southern states&quot

[Skwmom]

3. Bernie is not driving her unfavorables. Clinton is driving her unfavorables.

[uponit7771]

4. Back on planet Earth two people attacking one person consummately is a bad thing

[kaleckim]

15. Oh poor her

Sanders, and most every other politician on Earth for that matter, hasn't had to answer to critiques from more than one source. Pity her, poor thing. She's done NOTHING to earn her horrific polling numbers. You know, you all got here by sticking your damn heads in the sand and not being honest with yourselves. Might help to reluctantly join the reality based community and start being honest with yourselves. Ain't doing any damn favors by sticking your fingers in your ears and going, "la la la, can't hear you."

[uponit7771]

19. She has faults, but being attacked by two people consummately raises them more than her positives

... which I think she has more of

[kaleckim]

30. Sanders

has treated her with kid gloves and what you want, whether you realize it or not, is for the right wing to have a monopoly on pushing her. It would be possible for people like yourself to push her from the left but you won't, everyone knows it and I doubt most of you are even on the left any damn way. Some of you are obviously paid to lie on her behalf. So, if/or when Sanders leaves the race, she will only have to respond to critiques from the right, which will make you all so happy. That's telling, and you're naive if you think that Trump is going to be as kind as Sanders has been to this point. Sanders could have been much more critical than he has been, he could have brought up a lot of things he didn't, and that will not be a problem for Trump.

The new RNC ad, the freaking RNC, features Clinton getting a check from big banks and being corrupt. THAT is the person you support, a person the RNC can run against on corruption and being too deferential to banks. Bravo sir! Yeah, her horrible polling is everyone else's fault. Head back in the sand with ya.

[polio2]

35. that's bs, hillary didn't hurt obama's numbers at all in 2008

Hillary is suffering due to her own weaknesses.

[amborin]

43. she created her assailable record by her own choices

[nadinbrzezinski]

45. I cannot wait for her to only face trump

Ahhhh...will get a cold one on the porch...tea though, I don't do beer

I can't wait for the excuses then

[imagine2015]

46. For Example: Like Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Hillary Clinton attacking Bernie.

And virtually the entire bureaucratic Democratic Party establishment ganging up on Bernie along with the big corporate media!

And I'm suppose to think .... Oh poor, poor Hillary being picked on by big bad Bernie.

[Baobab]

42. She is dishonest- Can you see this, Skwmom?

http://www.iatp.org/files/Wrong_Model_GATS_Trade_Liberalisation_and_Chil.htm

http://www.iatp.org/files/GATS_and_Public_Service_Systems.htm

GATS is what is what she has been hiding since 1994-95

[kaleckim]

10. Yeah

we need, like now, for the right to have a total monopoly on pushing and critiquing her. She will become a much better candidate when she no longer has to answer to critiques of the left. Brilliant logic, sure to be a winner. Sanders has dragged her to positions that are popular with the general public, not just people in her own party, and we can't have that. Can't wait for the "pivot towards the center (of what?)".

Please Bernie, give a fascist the monopoly on pushing Clinton, her supporters can't handle her having to actually be in the center of left wing and right wing critiques, they just want the right wing ones and to find common ground with them.

[uponit7771]

12. I don't see Sanders drag her to anything... his consummate whining about losing in the same system

... the long shot black guy won with in 08 is a total turn off.

[kaleckim]

17. Oh yeah

she hasn't copied his position and platform at all. What a bunch of nonsense you type. Doesn't move anyone outside your bubble, hope you know that.

[uponit7771]

18. She copied his gumper platform?! REALLY?! ... sigh

[tex-wyo-dem]

32. What the hell is "gumper"?

And yes, she copied his positions on several issues.

[kaleckim]

33. You're arguing against objective reality

but that's possible because of the deluded bubble you live in. Do you get paid by the lie, or the poorly thought out points? Either way, you've got to be rolling in the dough.

[Lodestar]

38. Did you notice that Bernie was NOT included in the poll questions about

shared values, leadership, trustworthiness? Only Hillary and Trump. Is that fair?
Wanna guess why he wasn't included?'
Because Bernie Sanders would be most favorable in those categories as well and if Hillary
isn't aligned with the values of Americans then she should step aside.

So you won't see those questions asked in a poll by the MSM because they can't handle the
truth or afford for it to be so blatantly displayed in public.

[2banon]

44. she's got more than 2 people "attacking" her.

She has a significant part of the population decrying the prospect of the return of the Clinton's to the white house.

Very different reasons but just the same, apparently enough people who didn't do so well economically during the 90's which they know led to the crash of 2008 are not keen on seeing the very people responsible return to power.

I appreciate one thing Bill did, and that was his selection of Ruth Ginsberg to SCOTUS. Don't think the Clinton's will appoint another Ruth Ginsberg though. No we'll see more Wall Street Cronies and Corporatist like the appointment Obama has just recently named as a concession to the repukes.

Before anyone would suggest HRC isn't Bill, everyone else knows they're joined at the hip and up to their necks together in very murky stuff, let's just say.

[Sheepshank]

2. Yet she is getting the most votes. Likability does not necessarily translate to leadership. n/t

[chascarrillo]

11. Why on earth would you choose a leader for yourself who you don't like?

[Sheepshank]

13. I don't want my best buddy leading the country either.

I don't know her personally, so likability doesn't come into it.

[chascarrillo]

20. Well then I have to say that you have a very appropriate username.

[pinebox]

5. Screen cap

More proof we need Bernie.

[madokie]

29. Personally

I think the voting and vote counting machines are being hacked by more than likely the hill gang as she is the recipient of this

In every poll I read I see that Sanders is the most trusted, more liked and honest, to a fault, of the bunch. Draws crowds of unbelievable size on a moments notice, in some cases, but yet the votes aren't there. BULLSHIT!!! Thats what I call it, pure smelly ass BULLSHIT

[leveymg]

6. Neck n neck with The Donald for least popular candidate to run ever

And we're expected to be enthusiastic and willing to give her our time and money from now until November. And, then, shut up afterwards, no matter what.

This is not America. They have something else coming.

[antigop]

8. leveymg, you may be right, but...

I really do think they are THAT CLUELESS.

She/they really think they can pull it off.

eta: because IT'S HER TURN!

[JRLeft]

21. Most people hate liars shocking!

[antigop]

22. interesting remark by Colbert last night...

During his opening monologue he said (not an exact quote, but close):

He was talking about Joe Biden:
"I really wish that guy was running for president."

[FlatBaroque]

26. After decades of being manipulated outside of our awareness

I can tell you that it feels as though this entire process is one giant contrived theater. My instinct tells me that what happens in November will be far different that anything we are expecting today. The only thing I can be absolutely sure of is that Hillary Clinton will never serve as President of the United States, and I thank God for that.

[kaleckim]

7. How many

pro-Clinton, head in the sand posts will follow? What's the over-under?

[FlatBaroque]

28. Hillary up by 65% in California!!

is the headline I expect from some Democrat in Cali_, momentarily.

[BernieforPres2016]

9. She's in a dead heat with Trump on "honest and trustworthy"

One is 31-64, the other 32-64. That is something to be proud of. I can't wait to see what their scores are after a summer and early fall of attack ads against each other.

[corkhead]

24. If she gets the nomination I expect the general election campaign to be like being in the front row

at a Gallagher show.

[Frenchye]

14. Is that the poll where she leads Trump by 6%?

Looks like the unfavorable statistics don't get in the way of her winning the Presidency.

[cali]

16. Her negatives are hard baked in. Trump's are not. At least not now.

[JRLeft]

23. His negatives will only go up.

[chascarrillo]

25. No no no no. Hillary used to have pretty great favorable ratings when she was SoS.

They've eroded so quickly that I have no idea how anyone could say that they're "baked in." Here's a graph.

[bunnies]

40. Same thing happened in 2007/08.

The more exposure she gets, the less people like her.

[Doctor_J]

27. She's gone out of her way to antagonize liberals, young people, and working people

Combine that with the baked-in antipathy from the hate radio addicts, and voila.

[Frenchye]

31. And as a result, she leads Trump by 6%

That's some "antipathy".

[kaleckim]

34. Very sad

According to one poll, one, she leads Trump by six points. According to others, she is essentially tied nationally, and in key swing states (in many ways more important than national polls). She is polling that horribly versus the most unpopular nominee in polling history, is not trusted and is the second most unpopular nominee in polling history. At some point, you people are going to have to join the reality based community and see this for what it is. You all have ignored this obvious reality for too long, and you are in a very bad position now as a result. Might help to just stop doing that.

[Doctor_J]

36. Yippee. She might scrape by against the least popular candidate in history in an election in

which half of the voters show up. And what would you call someone of whom 55% of the electorate has a negative view?

[stillwaiting]

41. Easy as this. nt

[Lodestar]

37. And yet Bernie's name is not included in the poll's questions about

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leadership, trustworthiness, shared values, etc. Only Trump and Hillary.

He would lead in that as well...perhaps by a wide margin....so of course they couldn't
include him. Most Americans' values are in alignment with Bernie Sanders and that is
one Truth they simply cannot swallow or reveal.

What we need is a reliable independent
polling company to ask those questions again and include Bernie. We don't need a poll
to know how that would turn out, but it would be nice to have a very public validation.
US VALUES|= BERNIE SANDERS

[MisterP]

39. the complete picture from HuffPo

[pdsimdars]

47. Here's a good one too.

This should mean something if your mind is awake.