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List of conventions where superdelegates switched to the pledge-delegate loser (Original Post) Frenchye May 2016 OP
List of conventions where someone under an FBI investigation was nominated pinebox May 2016 #1
Indeed. GreenPartyVoter May 2016 #4
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Number of candidates who lied about taking Sniper Fire? pinebox May 2016 #11
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Number of candidates who ran racist 3am ads? pinebox May 2016 #14
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It wasn't a racist ad? And number of people running who voted for Iraq? pinebox May 2016 #17
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Again, Obama is running? pinebox May 2016 #19
Not only is Obama not running, but he hasn't endorsed anyone in this primary. (nt) w4rma May 2016 #25
this bot is stuck on repeat TheSarcastinator May 2016 #27
Member since: Thu May 19, 2016, 07:00 PM Hmmm...... n/t JesterCS May 2016 #29
sniper fire 3hummingbirds May 2016 #28
And there it is. Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #9
Partial list of candidates that have garnered the most superdelegates in the past... cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #2
The superdelegates, boogeyman or savior, depending on which way the Bernievane blows... Tarc May 2016 #3
Is there anything about my post that was incorrect? cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #7
Mondale was a good choice. His downfall was that he told the truth tonyt53 May 2016 #26
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Sure. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #10
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Untrue- he had an early lead. So did SBS in NH, LOL. bettyellen May 2016 #20
Wow. Way to miss the point of the post. Both of you. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #21
You don't seem to know how the SDs work. They move away from the losers..... bettyellen May 2016 #22
Talk about who doesn't know what... cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #23
Were we talking about the why? Nope. But they aren't there to sideline the more popular candidate-- bettyellen May 2016 #24
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number of Presidents who, as a candidate, made a deal with his opponent to prevent islandmkl May 2016 #15

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pinebox

(5,761 posts)
14. Number of candidates who ran racist 3am ads?
Fri May 20, 2016, 11:06 AM
May 2016

1. Hillary Clinton.

I like it how you keep citing Obama though, I wasn't aware he was a candidate this election.

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pinebox

(5,761 posts)
17. It wasn't a racist ad? And number of people running who voted for Iraq?
Fri May 20, 2016, 11:19 AM
May 2016

Funny thing that racism.....
Again, is Obama running? May I vote for him?

http://theweek.com/articles/567774/hillary-clinton-needs-address-racist-undertones-2008-campaign


Number of candidates on both sides who voted for Iraq?

1. Hillary Clinton.

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pinebox

(5,761 posts)
19. Again, Obama is running?
Fri May 20, 2016, 12:01 PM
May 2016

Is there a ballot someplace I can vote for him?

I'm sorry I was under the impression we were talking about candidates who are running in the 2016 race.

Meanwhile......today on the NYT's front page. Hmmm I don't see Obama listed.





 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
2. Partial list of candidates that have garnered the most superdelegates in the past...
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:16 AM
May 2016

Walter Mondale
Howard Dean

Did the superdelegates choose wisely?

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
26. Mondale was a good choice. His downfall was that he told the truth
Fri May 20, 2016, 03:43 PM
May 2016

He said during the last debate that he would raise taxes. Reagan said he wouldn't, but he did raise taxes several times. But all anybody heard from Mondale was that he would raise their taxes.

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cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
10. Sure.
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:55 AM
May 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdelegate#Election_of_1988

"The superdelegates have not always prevailed, however. In the Democratic primary phase of the 2004 election, Howard Dean acquired an early lead in delegate counts by obtaining the support of a number of superdelegates before even the first primaries were held."

Are there any other demands you'd like to make?

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cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
21. Wow. Way to miss the point of the post. Both of you.
Fri May 20, 2016, 01:54 PM
May 2016

The point is that in the past, superdelegates almost unanimously supported Walter Mondale. Not good judgment.

Before the primaries even started, superdelegates were lining up behind Howard Dean. Good judgment? Your call.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
23. Talk about who doesn't know what...
Fri May 20, 2016, 02:36 PM
May 2016

The superdelegates were created to protect the party elite from the Proles (by way of an insurgent candidacy supported by a majority of voters).

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
24. Were we talking about the why? Nope. But they aren't there to sideline the more popular candidate--
Fri May 20, 2016, 03:37 PM
May 2016

just because of early polls. I am sorry, but that whole idea is fucking stupid, and smacks of desperation. I am sorry you are buying the fairy tales that something like that could or even should happen..... but the path for SBS to win has closed.

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islandmkl

(5,275 posts)
15. number of Presidents who, as a candidate, made a deal with his opponent to prevent
Fri May 20, 2016, 11:07 AM
May 2016

convention mayhem by awarding the opponent a plum cabinet position, even though said opponent could not have won the nomination without swaying the super-delegates to her side (which was attempted but unsuccessful right up to the convention):

1) Barack Obama


this game is fun as hell...thanks

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