Trump said "big percentages of the Bernie people are going to vote for Trump"

[redstateblues]

Sounds like he's been hanging out on DU!

[Jitter65]

1. True...in those states where they were going to vote for Trump in the GE anyway. nt

[bonemachine]

2. Trump is trolling you

...and you are taking the bait.

[FarPoint]

15. I think you are off base....

Many Sanders supporters who are Independent and just dislike Democrats and Hillary period. So, they either stay home and not vote at all or feel compelled to protest vote for Trump as either/ or a way to be able to shut down Hillary.

[bonemachine]

26. You are one hell of a cynic...

The amount of daylight between the two of them is blinding. I will give you that here may be a significant number of Bernie supporters who stay home, or vote for a third party, especially in blue states.

But to suggest the folks who are die hard Bernie supporters would completely abandon the values that Bernie embodies and vote for Trump... Like I said, Trump is trolling you, and you are taking the bait.

[creeksneakers2]

82. New poll find 20% Sanders supporter betrayal

The continued Democratic primary race appears to be sapping some of Clinton’s strength. She’s losing 20 percent of Bernie Sanders’ supporters to Trump, while winning only 11 percent of leaned Republicans who backed someone other than Trump for their party’s nomination.

http://www.langerresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/1177a1ClintonTrump.pdf

[morningfog]

33. And another one takes the bait! lol.

[cali]

62. Sorry, polls show that the vast majority of his supporters will vote for her

[Kelvin Mace]

3. Highly doubtful

and the only people I have seen say they would support Trump on this board had low post counts and got tombstoned as trolls.

Could you provide a link to people on this board saying they were voting for Trump?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. There are Sanders supporters who hate Hillary with a passion...

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There are some Sanders supporters who hate Hillary with a passion. That is their right... Let me repeat it, that is their right...But it has to chafe their asses that a racist, sexist, homophobic, misogynistic, anti-semitic, anti-Muslim, xenophobic, and ultra-nationalist candidate like Trump is depending on them to beat her.

I know it would chafe my ass.

[Demsrule86]

12. Hey if they vote for Trump

then they are shite. Sorry if you are progressive you vote for a racist...they might be something but progressive is not it.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. Let's say I lived in West Virginia And Joe Manchin was running against a Klansman.

I would vote for Joe Manchin. the ConservaDem.

[Kelvin Mace]

24. For the record, I don't hate anyone,

even Trump. Hating people is a bad habit and never solves anything. There is a tendency of people on both sides of this issue to equate "disagree with" as "hate".

Trump may think he can get Sanders' voters, but it is unlikely he will. If he wins it wil be thanks to heavy right-wing turnout by people who do hate all things Clinton (the racist, xenophobic, etc types you mention), independents who don't like HRC and non-votes from liberals who HRC is doing everything she can to alienate.

[Duckhunter935]

34. Good thing I will not vote for him

But I am safe so I can not vote for her either.

[morningfog]

36. Trump is just spewing shit. There is no basis for his claims.

[Warren DeMontague]

56. And there are some Hill Folk who are so wedded to these bullshit imaginary narratives in their heads

That I fear for their stabilty when they finally go outside and discover the sky isn't purple with red polka dots.

[Henhouse]

87. K&R

[Renew Deal]

10. Most are smart enough not to admit it

But they are happy to say others will.

[Kelvin Mace]

23. That is your standard of evidence?

Ok, I'll bite. So far the only people I have seen claiming Sanders voters will vote for Trump are HRC supporters and poorly sourced news outlets quoting HRC surrogates, or "knowledgeable" anonymous officials.

How about some links to Sanders supporters saying other Sanders supporters will vote Trump?

[bettyellen]

50. Susan Sarandon did the coy "some Sanders supporters" want to "burn it down" and was lauded here for

that. So, yeah. There are more than a few here too.

[Kelvin Mace]

57. Ok,

so you are relying on wilful distortion of other people's words then pointing to the your insinuations as evidence.

Got it.

[bettyellen]

59. I saw her on TV laughing about how Trump would fuck the country really badly.

I know exactly what she said and how gleeful she was over the idea.

[Kelvin Mace]

60. Right, so you cite a SINGLE instance from memory

that you have no link to, of a celebrity on national television "laughing about how Trump would fuck the country really badly."

Gee, if only people recorded such things and posted them to some video web site where other people could see them. If only TV news programs maintained an archive of theirs shows with transcripts of what various guests said on their programs.

But, I'll take your word for it. So, that's ONE instance. Have any more? Perhaps, you have people on this site saying they will vote for Trump?

[bettyellen]

61. Kevin, I know you could google Sarandon's interview if you wanted to.... instead you pretend I'm

Making shit up. We both have heard the BOB chants at rallies and so has Sanders. Let's not pretend otherwise.

[Kelvin Mace]

65. Hey, I said I would take your word for Sarandon

"Bernie or Bust" has two meaning: One ascribed by Bernie Supporters, "Bernie or nothing"; and the other ascribed by HRC supporters and their ilk, "Bernie or we vote for Trump".

I'll stick with how I, and other Bernie supporters, have defined the issue.

And before you chime in, refusing to vote for HRC is NOT a vote for Trump. Voting for Trump is a vote for Trump. If Trump wins it will be because the Democratic Party picked a weak candidate.

[creeksneakers2]

83. New poll

http://www.langerresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/1177a1ClintonTrump.pdf

The continued Democratic primary race appears to be sapping some of Clinton’s strength. She’s losing 20 percent of Bernie Sanders’ supporters to Trump, while winning only 11 percent of leaned Republicans who backed someone other than Trump for their party’s nomination.

[The_Casual_Observer]

4. Trump has this weird pawing in the air with his right hand

thing he does when he is trying to emphasize a his point.

He is a real piece of shit.

[Demsrule86]

13. They hint at it

they could after all get tossed out of here...they say that trump is better than Hillary too...same thing.

[BillZBubb]

16. You Hillary fans just can't keep from piling on the lies.

"They hint at it"! That's classic. You should be ashamed.

No they don't. It is consistently stated that Hillary is a terrible candidate and why. It is pointed out that trump can and might beat her. Many go so far as to say he will beat her. That doesn't mean they support trump or will vote for him. It means Hillary is a lousy candidate. There is no hinting about anything.

[redstateblues]

66. Bernie is a worse candidate and many BSS are Trump enablers

[Fawke Em]

81. Hillary supporters are the Trump enablers.

Polls have consistently showed Hillary tying or losing to Trump, while Bernie beats him handily. We support the candidate most likely to beat Trump. You don't.

[Demsrule86]

78. It is pointed out that they can no bring themselves to vote for Hillary

aww...and she is just as bad as Trump...and they rejoice if he is ahead...I have seen it over and over.

[Demsrule86]

79. New post

The question is now: Which is WORSE for America - Hillary or Trump? just posted...what perfect timing...yeah you see what I mean?

[redstateblues]

35. They are gleeful when Trump has good numbers

[Duckhunter935]

39. Not gleeful

Just pointing out as we always have that Bernie does better.

[Demsrule86]

75. So true

if Hillary wins then their guy is a loser...but if Trump wins then if only Bernie....of course Bernie would be destroyed.

[Duckhunter935]

38. Post some links

[redstateblues]

67. Puhleez-Just go to GD-P

They are everywhere. It's what the sore losers latest meme is

[Duckhunter935]

69. I go there quite often

I see quite a few that will not support Hillary or vote f or her. I see several that will write in, vote third party or leave blank I have seen none that say they will vote for Trump.

[Demsrule86]

74. you want me to search the whole site?

Give me a break...how about the 'I fear Clinton more than Trump meme...you have seen it come on.

[redstateblues]

32. Lots of Susan Sarandons on this site

[Duckhunter935]

37. So true, I have never seen one of Bernie

supporters say they would vote for him that is a DU member.

[WhiteTara]

6. Since 99% of his words are lies

I feel sure this is another.

[forest444]

7. Do you make this up as you go along?

Name someone who, as a regular contributor here on DU, has advocated that Bernie's supporters migrate to Trump.

I've seen one or two who've advocated voting for Dr. Jill Stein or even Gary Johnson, and a few who support a write-in campaign for Bernie. But Trump? Sounds like a narrative being spun by the Hillistines.

[redstateblues]

11. Not voting for the Democratic nominee might as well be a vote for Trump

[JRLeft]

14. She makes it easy to vote 3rd party.

[SFnomad]

20. And if you're "progressive" and vote 3rd party, especially in a battleground state .. tRump thanks

you for your support.

[redstateblues]

31. Many Susan Sarandans on this site. Trump enablers

[onenote]

64. Trump should make it easier to vote for her.

There are two groups of people whose actions, in combination, could lead to a Trump victory.

Those who vote for Trump.
And those who don't vote for the Democratic Party candidate.

Simply stating a fact.

[BillZBubb]

19. Ignorant bullshit.

If you live in a solid Blue state or a solid Red state it doesn't matter who you vote for in the presidential contest. That's most of the voters in the country.

Not voting for the Democratic nominee in that case is a great way to send a message the Democratic party--a message it needs to hear.

[redstateblues]

27. Yeah I'm sure the Naderites in FL thought FL was safely blue

How did that work out for you?

[Duckhunter935]

41. When is the last time Oklahoma went blue?

Don't be so condescending to some of us Bernie supporters please.

[winter is coming]

71. No one in their right mind thought Florida was safely blue,

including all of the Dems who voted for W. Funny how they never get blamed.

[Duckhunter935]

40. I know my state

So what you said is not true for me

[TheCowsCameHome]

8. Yuk! Yuk!

Good one.

[lumberjack_jeff]

18. And they are. There are two ways Clinton fans should interpret this fact.

1) as a call to action to recruit, appeal and hold these voters, or...
2) as a measure of their own purity and virtue. Those icky Sanders supporters are probably just jealous white guys anyway.

[SidDithers]

21. Wouldn't surprise me...

The Right hates Hillary and the Fringe Left hates Hillary.

Sometimes, it's really hard to tell them apart.

Sid

[Turin_C3PO]

72. I doubt it.

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There's probably a contingent of Paulite's who will vote Trump (no more than 20% of Bernie vote). But I don't know any leftwingers voting Trump.

[SamKnause]

22. I would never vote for Trump.

I don't know anyone who supports Bernie who would vote for Trump.

[WDIM]

25. Sanders supporters will never vote for Trump

And probably won't vote for Hillary either.

I would never support a billionaire or multimillionaire criminal exploiter embezzler or anybody connected to money from dictators for president. That excludes both Clinton and Trump.

[redstateblues]

29. Equivocating Trump and Hillary is a foolish uninformed stance

Criminal embezzler? Has someone been convicted of that? That makes you the judge and jury. You sound like a dictator in a banana republic.

[Duckhunter935]

44. Some are much more equal than others

Hundreds of millions brings a lot of safety from indictments

[redstateblues]

51. It's easy to throw shit against the wall

and see if anything sticks when you have no proof of anything. It is pitiful to see some of you "revolutionaries" clinging to the indictment fairy. It's hard to accept the fact that the people have not chosen Bernie to be the nominee. He will endorse Hillary before the convention

[Duckhunter935]

54. I deal with classified and sensitive information

I have had the brief and signed the agreements

[WDIM]

45. Both Trump and Hillary represent the corrupt system

They are two sides of the same coin driven by greed and power and are every thing Sanders and his supporters are against.

Pay for play, special favors for rich friends, protectionism of the wealthy, corporate favortism, exploitation of workers and American citizens.

Trump and Clinton have both profited from war and death. Trump and Clinton have both taken money from and have close relationships with murderous totalitarian dictators.

Neither one of them care about the people of this country. They are both narcissitic and nihilistic and only care about money and power and destroying anyone and anything and use any means to justify their ends.

[redstateblues]

49. There are huge differences-Hillary is way closer to Bernie-they agree 93% of the time

Hillary is a solid liberal-she may not be as pure as the Purity Party demands but to say she and Trump are the same is just not true. It may be your opinion that Hillary doesn't care about this country but I believe she cares deeply for this country and has served it. To call Hillary a narcissist is ridiculous and unfounded. You have virtually no proof for most of your opinions. When Bernie was asked in the last debate to name one instance of corruption he could not name one after railing for a year about it. No proof of quid pro quo.

[treestar]

52. So you would not be affected

negatively in any way if Trump won? What are your interests? They are such that it would not matter if Trump won? So the ACA can be repealed and that has no negative affect on your or anyone.

With a Republican Congress, they could repeal social programs for gut them in some way. And that wouldn't bother you? Not personally or not bother you that poor people would suffer from that?

[Orsino]

28. Therefore they won't.

That was easy.

[Duckhunter935]

30. I will not

[whatthehey]

42. Well, yes and no

People who supported Sanders for his policies and priorities? Too few Trump folks there to consider. Nothing's zero in such matters but you havce to imagine either a spectacularly confused dumbass or some weird David Icke clone driven by an unreasoning and overwhelming case of CDS.

Ratfuckers like the WV crossover voters who never planned on voting for any D in any meaningful election? Tons of them.

[demmiblue]

43. Why are you doing this? No one here is going to vote for Trump. n/t

[redstateblues]

68. I'm sick of the Trump enabling and BSS gleefully gloating and celebrating

Trumps ascendance and his bump in the polls

[nadinbrzezinski]

46. Dynamics, they are not for hard core political partisans anymore

Why would he even say that (And for the record less than he believes will vote for him)

There is anger in the country, at the political establishment. He is running a classic outsider campaign at this point. Hell he has from the beginning. Why do you think he got that nomination? (Mind you, people here did not take him seriously, and still don't)

But while I expect the number of Bernie supporters to be lower than he expects, (much lower actually) you know which group I expect to cross in large numbers? After all they did it for Bush and Reagan... conservadems History is indeed prologue

What I do expect is more than a few Bernie supporter to sit it out. I also expect them to leave politics in large swaths, especially the young ones. Myself I could care less at this point, The way the system has revealed itself. I am back at home, in Mexico, where who I vote for is determined by who counts the votes.

Congrats, because I am not alone, The system is increasingly seen as not legitimate.

Oh and as to those conservadems, I know a few. They will vote for Clinton in June to stop the commie, realize average age is 65 in that crowd, and they will vote for Trump in November, They make no bones about it. They cannot stand her. They remember the 1990s... and for at least one, it is a morality thing.

[broiles]

47. Like hell we are!

[KingFlorez]

48. Sanders would make a great running mate for Trump

They both hate Hillary Clinton and trade, so it's a match made in heaven!

[oldandhappy]

53. Well, he said it!!!

No way Mr. Trump. We will be fine without you. Lots of choices on the ballot. Bernie people are about issues and building a wall is not one of them.

[Warren DeMontague]

55. Trump says he gives all his girfriends the best orgasms of their lives, too.

I know, ewwwwwww.


But that's the sort of thing "trump says"

[baldguy]

58. 40%

He's just been looking at the polls.

[TheSarcastinator]

63. LOL: So Now Hillarians Trust Trump?

Clowns are funny.

[restorefreedom]

70. too bad....

we could actually nominate someone who people can get excited about, who will draw votes FROM the gop and can actually beat trump.

but the dnc elite will go with hillary anyway.

something about horses and water and drinking goes here.......

[quaker bill]

73. Yeah, and "big percentages of Hillary people were going to vote McCain/Palin in 2008"

I think Trump should run with that assumption and put it in all of this turnout models.

[tonyt53]

76. If they do not show up to vote on elections day, they are voting for Trump by their actions

it really is as simple as that.

[w4rma]

77. "Remarkably, Clinton is only running evenly with Trump among 18- to 29-year-olds"

Remarkably, Clinton is only running evenly with Trump among 18- to 29-year-olds –- a key Sanders support group that’s looking ever-more resistant to her nomination. In March, Clinton led Trump among under-30s by 39 percentage points, 64-25 percent. Today they split 45-42 percent. It’s a group Barack Obama won by 23 points in 2012, and one that Clinton needs back.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/post-primary-rally-boosts-trump-albeit-challenges-aplenty/story?id=39265102

[LWolf]

80. Do you have a link, or some evidence,

to suggest that big percentages of Sanders supporters are going to vote for Trump, or that big percentages of Sanders supporters on DU have said they would vote for Trump?

If not, then you are promoting false propaganda. Be proud.

[creeksneakers2]

84. New poll

The continued Democratic primary race appears to be sapping some of Clinton’s strength. She’s losing 20 percent of Bernie Sanders’ supporters to Trump, while winning only 11 percent of leaned Republicans who backed someone other than Trump for their party’s nomination.

http://www.langerresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/1177a1ClintonTrump.pdf

[LWolf]

86. Or maybe it's just her high unfavorables, and

that she's never been a strong candidate for the GE to begin with, as some of us have said all along.

Sapping "her" strength.

We've always known that Sanders has stronger crossover support, including support from outside the party that Clinton won't get. It isn't just beginning to happen, lol.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

85. No they won't vote for Trump