2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBarbara Boxer BLOWING KISSES To Bernie Sanders Supporters As She Walks Off Stage in NV
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Segami
(14,923 posts)Full of sh*t
Alex4Martinez
(3,332 posts)It's closer-up, looks like she's kind of pissed and then she points at someone or the crowd and says something that I can't make out.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Segami
(14,923 posts)AgerolanAmerican
(1,000 posts)I would be grossly offended if a Senator from another state came into my state to do that, no matter who they were.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)After taking a dump on democracy and a roomful of DELEGATES.
yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)Dawgs
(14,755 posts)And did anyone ever find out if that's a middle finger she's sticking out at the end of the video?
senz
(11,945 posts)which she would use when she ran to the media the next day.
We sure have put some remarkably ugly, unworthy people in office. We really should be more careful.
But, as others have noted, she'll probably "retire" to a nice high-paying lobbyist gig like Barney Frank and Howard Dean.
I am reminded of a line from a G.B. Shaw play, "What price salvation now?"
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)While repeatedly saying "shame on you" in between sarcastic thrown kisses. In other words, she was being a dick. And she was not afraid. She had a whole posse of Sheriff's surrounding her.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)The video is dark, but it sure looks like Boxer gave-the-finger to the crowd on the way out.
apnu
(8,790 posts)She probably was shocked, then scared, then fight-or-flight kicked in and she choose "fight" and that resulted in a sarcastic display of "kiss my ass"
Its all very human thing to do because Boxer is, big shocker, a fucking human being.
Segami
(14,923 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)That doesn't give her license to lie about what happened.
apnu
(8,790 posts)Who started that spat? Were Bernie supporters being roudy assholes to her and calling her a bitch from the start or did she come out telling them to to fuck themselves?
And what lie are we talking about? That she felt scared and threatened. You have proof she didn't feel fear on that podium? You were in her head? Really, tell me all about your mind meld powers.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Surrounded by multiple armed security team members and she was afraid of people yelling things at her? Yeah, I think she's lying. No, I can't read her mind...just drawing the utterly obvious conclusion. Tough shit.
apnu
(8,790 posts)Security was at the side and by the door. They had to be called in later. Barbara Boxer was not surrounded by security when she stood at that podium.
If I'm wrong, show me a full video of her entire speech. Not the parts where she's reacting negatively to the crowd and throwing gasoline on a fire and not when she's walking away. The whole video of her time on that stage.
Assumptions are bad, I choose to work with the facts as I know them and keep open to the possibility that new information might come in and change the facts. You have no data that she's lying about her emotional feelings while up on that podium. But you want to draw conclusions based on no real data and assume things, be my guest.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Golly, she was all on her own up there...probably had to dodge sniper fire to get there, too!
You're assuming, too: that she's telling the truth about her feelings. I don't choose to trust her to that degree. YMMV...
gopiscrap
(24,733 posts)these are socialists, they're not going to hurt anyone!!
arcane1
(38,613 posts)kaleckim
(651 posts)The damn state party, obviously. What exactly were the Sanders supporters pissed at? How do you miss that? She then went on stage and antagonized them.
I don't remember any of you people showing this type of concern at Trump protests. I was at the one in Chicago, it was a wee bit more confrontational, and I seem to remember all of you cheering that.
apnu
(8,790 posts)The "spat" I'm talking about is the floor vs Barbra Boxer. You're expanding the scope of the conversation to the whole shit-show of a day. Tensions were hot when it was Boxer's time to speak, she is not a Nevada State Democrat, she was there to give a speech supporting Hillary, she didn't have anything to do with what the Nevada State Dems did or the rules of the party in that state. She was there to give a speech about Hillary Clinton and nothing more.
You are staying Barbra Boxer got up on the stage and told the Sanders people to STFU. That should be easy to verify, do you have the video of her whole time at the podium? Maybe a transcript of her remarks? That's a pretty big accusation you have there, what convinced you that Barbra Boxer got up on the podium to take a piss on Sanders delegates?
So I'll ask again, who started the spat between Sanders floor delegates and Barbra Boxer? Was it Sanders people or Boxer?
Also are you talking to me specifically or railing at DU in general? Its hard to tell.
kaleckim
(651 posts)How do you isolate what happened on stage to the days and hours leading into her going onstage? That is kind of the damn point. She went on after a bunch of undemocratic things happened that were indefensible (and caught on tape), then antagonized the crowd, then acted like a fool exiting the stage. She certainly didn't handle herself well, and her timing was freaking horrible. You wanted to know who started the spat, that isn't an open and shut case and depends on how you look at it.
It's absurd to claim she truly felt in danger. Look at the damn video as she was exiting the stage. If you were close to a crowd you were "scared" of, would you blow kisses and flick people off? Give me a break, just digging the hole deeper, as if you all lying on this site and in the national media about what happened wasn't bad enough.
senz
(11,945 posts)And how dare you call the protesters "dicks" as if they were all men?
We women also condemn and protest the hideous, unAmerican actions of the DNC/Hill camp.
frylock
(34,825 posts)As does the phalanx of armed Deputies.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)snort
(2,334 posts)They come out of my ass.
QC
(26,371 posts)I know I always do that when I think I'm about to be ripped to pieces by an angry mob.
HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)there's reality and then there's her political expediency when on MSM...
And HRC supporters even question why Bernie supporters would hesitate to vote for HRC in GE... it's due to this craptastic reality and facts when caught on camera being an ass and when she's on MSM spotlight stating she 'feared for her life'...
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Fear is not something everyone 'wears' the same.
Your premise is ridiculous.
frylock
(34,825 posts)anotherproletariat
(1,446 posts)Autumn
(48,962 posts)madamesilverspurs
(16,512 posts)instead of responding in kind.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Tarc
(10,601 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Built on liars and lies.
Despicable and disgusting.
dana_b
(11,546 posts)Don't we all blow kisses when we are terrified for our lives?
vintx
(1,748 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)Bobbie Jo
(14,344 posts)tabasco
(22,974 posts)Typical entitled beltway insider who hates to wander out of her "safe zone."
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Progressive dog
(7,603 posts)Headlines don't always agree with what is in the story.
vintx
(1,748 posts)She is full of shit. Lying to demonize Sanders supporters.
Progressive dog
(7,603 posts)she didn't need to lie to demonize them.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)..because she was frightened?
Does not compute.
Watch the video, and then come to a rational conclusion...if you are capable of that.
Progressive dog
(7,603 posts)You blame the victim for not being as afraid as you'd like. Even Bernie might say that behavior was unacceptable.
Rex
(65,616 posts)I think she was being sarcastic and is so close to retiring that she doesn't give two shits anymore.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)but I guess Barbara is human, after all, and susceptible to the temptation to mock. It wasn't very nice, though, given the apparent shenanigans that were going on there.
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Purveyor
(29,876 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)to despicable Hillarian corporatist Third-Wayer.
And now she's a drunkard, too?
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)How are we to know other than observation and speculation?
AzDar
(14,023 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)would need to have all of those security guards around her to ensure her physical safety?
Chilling stuff.