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bigtree

(85,984 posts)
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:18 PM May 2016

"There were death threats to me, death threats to my husband, death threats to my 5-year old son"

Democratic official slams Sanders’ response to convention threats as ‘pretty weak


“His statement was pretty weak that came out yesterday, and you can say you condemn the violence but until you say you’re sorry, until you say what happened in Nevada should not have happened and it was wrong and it was fueled by your senior campaign staff people, then that’s an apology and then I think that there’s some responsibility is taken,” Nevada State Democratic Party Chairwoman Roberta Lange said on CNN.

Ms. Lange said the situation has nothing to do with Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who chairs the Democratic National Committee, and everything to do with what happened in Nevada “and what has continued to happen to me in the days following the convention.”

“Actually, the phone calls have escalated,” Ms. Lange said. “The longer this goes on and the Sanders campaign doesn’t take responsibility for what happened in Nevada, I think it’s going to continue.

“I think he should acknowledge that there were death threats to me, that there [were] death threats to my husband, that there [were] death threats to my 5-year-old grandson, that they called my work and tried to ruin … like I said, this is my volunteer job being chair,” she said.

“I have a full-time job where single mothers and people trying to pay off their school loans work, and it hurt our business,” she said. “People were calling our business so much that they had to unplug the phone.

“I think they owe an apology to me and then I can give it to the owner of the business,” she said. “I mean, I think those kinds of apologies need to happen and I think they need to recognize that this is not laughable — these are threats to people’s lives that are very serious.”



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"There were death threats to me, death threats to my husband, death threats to my 5-year old son" (Original Post) bigtree May 2016 OP
So have they been contacted by authorities? ibegurpard May 2016 #1
That is the question no one seems to want to touch. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #16
No, we are gonna hear day in and out about this outrage- which is also a crime Warren DeMontague May 2016 #63
So simple a question results in crickets bvf May 2016 #72
If in fact people made threats they should be prosecuted if its appropriate. Baobab May 2016 #110
Agreed. bvf May 2016 #120
Good questions. The type of harassment she is describing is AGAINST THE LAW. mhatrw May 2016 #101
Bernie needs to drop out. trueblue2007 May 2016 #2
Or at least start trying to control his people... scscholar May 2016 #95
Why? Because a Clinton surrogate claims she is receiving death threats, but will not call the police mhatrw May 2016 #102
What if there was a lot of fraud - for HRC? Baobab May 2016 #124
Republican Black Ops Scientific May 2016 #3
I wish that was true. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #6
I wish that was true. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #6
Quite likely. Or it was DWS calling her. Just for the same reason, and to cause Bernie trouble. nt silvershadow May 2016 #26
There's always a conspiracy. Metric System May 2016 #39
Or satire, to illustrate how we honestly have no way to pin this on Bernie's folks. But I see silvershadow May 2016 #43
So Ms. lange should file charges. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #46
There should be charges filed against Lange. (eom) liberalnarb May 2016 #48
Threats are a crime, no matter what else is involved. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #50
**Cough*CorrecttheRecord*coughcough** liberalnarb May 2016 #51
I know I have my suspicions. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #53
Exactly. The pretend it's a conspiracy theory instead of an actual conspiracy. nt silvershadow May 2016 #91
Salon: There’s too much denial, conjecture and nonsense being passed among Sanders supporters Renew Deal May 2016 #75
Yes,that is a great article and so tru. riversedge May 2016 #79
That's he best part of it Renew Deal May 2016 #82
I think someones cookies got double frosted last Tuesday - after the anti-Bernie media blitz azurnoir May 2016 #90
If he had the money for a recount I doubt she won KY either, but he likely doesn't and won't. silvershadow May 2016 #92
Nope...it was bros. workinclasszero May 2016 #38
Yeah, Rolling Stone, vaunted pillar of journalistic integrity. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #47
And the bus gets jacked up a little higher nt WhiteTara May 2016 #56
What bus? I say prosecute whoever made the threats. Dont you agree? Warren DeMontague May 2016 #59
There is proof all over the place that it was Bernie supporters. barrow-wight May 2016 #58
What proof? choie May 2016 #61
Many gleefully admitted to doing it. Renew Deal May 2016 #71
More complete bullshit. They interviewed THREE Sanders supporters. mhatrw May 2016 #108
I suggest getting the authorities involved NWCorona May 2016 #4
Ya think? mhatrw May 2016 #111
Reichstag fire 2.0 elehhhhna May 2016 #5
because Democrats are Nazis? bigtree May 2016 #64
Sanders supporters have insinuated Dems are Nazis for weeks, now. baldguy May 2016 #73
fake sneaky selfvictimization is a thing. elehhhhna May 2016 #88
so is opportunistic, political self-interest bigtree May 2016 #104
She is. elehhhhna May 2016 #105
speaking of the Sanders anti-Hillary campaign bigtree May 2016 #116
And proven to be Bernie supporters? trudyco May 2016 #8
Yes, proven to be Bernie supporters Nonhlanhla May 2016 #17
Bullshit. Only smears no proof Berners were responsible. snagglepuss May 2016 #30
You have the right to your own opinion Nonhlanhla May 2016 #55
You guys are ones concocting bullshit stories. snagglepuss May 2016 #60
It has been proven Nonhlanhla May 2016 #66
Did RS print names? Since RS had no problem finding these people, the police should have found them snagglepuss May 2016 #69
Here is a link Nonhlanhla May 2016 #77
The numbers were released apparently. moriah May 2016 #78
So why haven't they been apprenhended and charged? snagglepuss May 2016 #83
I don't know. The first person says they're getting nasty calls too. moriah May 2016 #93
Cops wade through bullshit all the time. These are serious accusations and the perps snagglepuss May 2016 #94
Prosecute them all Renew Deal May 2016 #80
Tell Her To Stop Whining IF She Knows AND They Know And Have ChiciB1 May 2016 #121
Sanders supporters admitted to it Renew Deal May 2016 #76
So 10s of thousands admitted to it? angrychair May 2016 #131
Don't you get tired of making excuses Renew Deal May 2016 #132
Which proven Sanders supporters made death threats? mhatrw May 2016 #112
No. It wasn't. There is no way to prove how they voted, and just saying you are a supporter silvershadow May 2016 #27
I agree Andy823 May 2016 #117
I know exactly what you mean. ;) silvershadow May 2016 #118
The ones the media contacted admitted to being Sanders supporters. TwilightZone May 2016 #32
What about the ones that law enforcement have contacted? frylock May 2016 #37
I don't know. What has the Secret Service and the FBI told you? TwilightZone May 2016 #42
Terroristic threatening has been the name for death threats in law for ages. moriah May 2016 #74
Doesn't matter; Sanders doesn't need proof to issue a clear condemnation anigbrowl May 2016 #125
I heard on the late news last night that the FBI was looking into the threatening phone calls. anotherproletariat May 2016 #9
She's right that the people who made those calls kiva May 2016 #10
If it really happened they belong in jail, or at least ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #12
What I don't believe is her unmitagated gall in thinking kiva May 2016 #13
Right? They are conflating everything about what happened about the dissent and silvershadow May 2016 #28
Of course he should have apologised, just like any other leader would have. procon May 2016 #44
So did I miss Clinton's apology kiva May 2016 #65
Well, of course, that naturally cancels out Sanders behaving like a low class jerk. procon May 2016 #67
Just like when Obama was supposed to apologize because a preacher said something people didn't like elehhhhna May 2016 #89
That's genius. procon May 2016 #130
She should turn off her text messaging and only accept voice votes. mhatrw May 2016 #115
What is there to condemn? RichVRichV May 2016 #11
Those who made such death threats need to be taken in by authorities. Xyzse May 2016 #14
Smells like bullshit berni_mccoy May 2016 #15
Yeah, she's making it up taught_me_patience May 2016 #18
Get a grip. I'm talking about the bullshit in calling Sanders statement weak. berni_mccoy May 2016 #20
You need more tinfoil Blue_Adept May 2016 #40
If Bernie apologizes Dem2 May 2016 #19
Oh dear, I do hope she notified the police. But reading the article for some reason I doubt it. Autumn May 2016 #21
the FBI is investigating bigtree May 2016 #22
You are so very, very welcome. I'm sure the FBI is all up on that, RW agency that it is. Autumn May 2016 #23
Except when they are investigating Clinton's e-mail server Generic Brad May 2016 #68
Riiiight Obviously you haven't read any threads about her email issue. Autumn May 2016 #70
Nailed it. The conspiracies have now become every bit as incoherent as they are boring and idiotic Number23 May 2016 #98
What? Like a security review? hellofromreddit May 2016 #24
Exactly so!!! A security review Autumn May 2016 #25
Snicker!! jillan May 2016 #34
Kind of like how they're investigating Hill right now. Thatll screw us in the GE. Thanks a lot. liberalnarb May 2016 #49
Good. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #54
But nobody threw a chair, so the rest of that is irrelevant and can be summarily dismissed. TwilightZone May 2016 #29
Who are you calling a misogynistic dope? jillan May 2016 #33
The people who called/texted threats to Democratic women and called them cunts and bitches TwilightZone May 2016 #35
When people lie, it calls into question their credibility. frylock May 2016 #41
To you maybe "When people lie, it calls into question their credibility." TimPlo May 2016 #85
I assume she has contacted the authorities. Just like Bernie's staff did when his Nevada Hdqtrs were jillan May 2016 #31
She's already been caught in a string of lies. HooptieWagon May 2016 #36
I got death threats over the placement of my garbage can Aerows May 2016 #45
Here's sound advice that should be universally accepted as true.... Sheepshank May 2016 #62
"Plonck worthy doo doo." bvf May 2016 #84
I wasn't even trying to outdo myself Aerows May 2016 #114
Sounds like the primaries reflect DU anymore. A lot of hate, anger, and petty ass people whining The Straight Story May 2016 #52
Well, this settles the problem, if it was not Bernie supporters then all the post here on DU Thinkingabout May 2016 #57
K&R mcar May 2016 #81
Tsk. Fresh out of tissues, too. bvf May 2016 #87
The Washington Times????? n/t That Guy 888 May 2016 #86
it's not rw opinion like so many supporters use here to attack Hillary bigtree May 2016 #99
"...these are quotes from a DEMOCRAT." Doesn't mean they aren't right wing. That Guy 888 May 2016 #129
Are police reports available? hootinholler May 2016 #96
I am so glad that she is continuing to speak out about this. The Bern'd outs keep trying to spin Number23 May 2016 #97
of course it's not however we saw how much effect it had on voters this past Tuesday azurnoir May 2016 #103
I NEVER know what you're talking about and never understand why you find my posts so interesting Number23 May 2016 #106
actually I rarely look at whom I am responding to but I'm hardly singling you out azurnoir May 2016 #107
Bernie lost Kentucky and got a 12 point win in Oregon when he needed a MINIMUM 30+ blowout Number23 May 2016 #109
Bernie lost Kentucky by 0.5% and his campaign is hardly unhinged azurnoir May 2016 #113
LOL, your BOLD overuse is funny. nt Logical May 2016 #100
Thom Hartmann Said On His Show That She Has The Phone Numbers Of ChiciB1 May 2016 #119
At this point bvf May 2016 #122
To Which I AGREE... I Know I'm Completely Turned Off! n/t ChiciB1 May 2016 #123
Aggressive crybabies BeyondGeography May 2016 #126
Did CNN ask why she ruled the yeas won on the voice votes when it was obvious the nays actually won? Akicita May 2016 #127
it's fantasy imagining that the nays would win bigtree May 2016 #128
Because she could easily tell leftynyc May 2016 #133
There have not been any charges filed or any investigation brought forth timmymoff May 2016 #134
 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
16. That is the question no one seems to want to touch.
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:36 PM
May 2016

If this happened as claimed; laws were broken. I should think people who make criminal threats (I believe the term is "terroristic threats&quot would be tracked down and prosecuted.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
63. No, we are gonna hear day in and out about this outrage- which is also a crime
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:57 PM
May 2016

But Im going to suspect that no actual charges will be filed, for some unfathomable reason.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
72. So simple a question results in crickets
Fri May 20, 2016, 07:00 PM
May 2016

while someone here and there will duplicate a post that was empty to begin with.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
110. If in fact people made threats they should be prosecuted if its appropriate.
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:40 PM
May 2016

However, until then, I think its unwise to assume that just because somebody claimed to be a bernie Sanders supporter that they were in fact, by my extremely conservative calculations I figured out that there is a minimum of half a million dollars per American difference in profit to one particular industry difference between two candidates- with the so called leading candidate being so much more profitable the sum just boggles the imagination. Hundreds of trillions of dollars is riding on this election. So, i think dirty tricks are not surprising, even if its nuts to think that profit will materialize, they are trying to lock it in, which is likely to force some kind of catastrophe at some point. Thats what this election is really about, not four years of policy, an allegedly forever set of changes in policy, exceedingly bad policy changes, all for the biggest corporations, that all have a sort of rushed quaity to them like "lets make the worst possible decisions fast and then nail them down through our own feet, because we think we still can"..

Its idiocy.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
120. Agreed.
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:18 PM
May 2016

The kind of money being talked about here will buy all sorts of dirty tricks.

Bargain-basement (i.e., what you might call pro bono, initiative-driven) versions have even appeared right here on DU, I'd bet.

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
101. Good questions. The type of harassment she is describing is AGAINST THE LAW.
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:22 PM
May 2016

Why does she need Bernie Sanders to protect her? Aren't the police more appropriate?

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
102. Why? Because a Clinton surrogate claims she is receiving death threats, but will not call the police
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:23 PM
May 2016

to protect her own family?

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
124. What if there was a lot of fraud - for HRC?
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:36 PM
May 2016

It certainly seems as if when polled, many people want Bernie's policies a lot more than HRCs.



Should Bernie still drop out then?
 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
26. Quite likely. Or it was DWS calling her. Just for the same reason, and to cause Bernie trouble. nt
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:57 PM
May 2016
 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
43. Or satire, to illustrate how we honestly have no way to pin this on Bernie's folks. But I see
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:22 PM
May 2016

you worked that conspiracy nut meme into just one more thread. Kudos.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
50. Threats are a crime, no matter what else is involved.
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:39 PM
May 2016

And I fully support prosecuting the people who made the threats.

In the process, we will learn who they are and who they are actually affiliated with, wont we.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
53. I know I have my suspicions.
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:45 PM
May 2016

And i certainly take this seriously. So yes, Ms. Lange should press charges. In the 21st century it should be relatively easy to figure out who sent those texts and left those messages- if Rolling Stone is to be believed, they found the perps in about all of five minutes.

The Florida marijuana laws that DWS spends so much time defending has their taxpayer money going to full-time monitoring and surveillance of the habits of little old ladies to make sure they dont have a pot plant growing in their basement, so I have to believe we have the law enforcement resources and know-how to track these threat-makers down!

Renew Deal

(81,851 posts)
75. Salon: There’s too much denial, conjecture and nonsense being passed among Sanders supporters
Fri May 20, 2016, 07:03 PM
May 2016

Salon: There’s too much denial, conjecture and nonsense being passed among Sanders supporters.

<snip>
There’s too much denial, conjecture and nonsense being passed among Sanders supporters. I thought liberals were the voice of evidence and reason? My own, 22-year-old, Bernie-loving son regurgitated conservative talking points to me the other day. “Hillary and Trump are no different,” he said. This is the wet dream of the Trump campaign, to conflate Clinton with an orange buffoon. Hillary has run a good campaign. She is a respected politician with a passionate following—and more votes than my guy. I didn’t escape the Fox News echo chamber just to embrace an equally angry liberal version.

I one wrote that the Sanders revolution reminded me of the Ron Paul campaign, a “revolution” in which I was also deeply enmeshed. Sadly, some Bernie supports would feel right at home at a Paul rally.

Paul is a libertarian-leaning Republican and his supporters were rabid to the point of blindness. They held onto kooky conspiracy theories and an unquenchable rage. Their insistence on purity tore at the foundations of their own ideology. In the end, they hurt no one but themselves. I see too many uncomfortable comparisons between Paul and Sanders supporters. It has become almost a personality cult. Sanders supporters are also in danger of overplaying this moment and doing themselves lasting harm. The Paul movement thought itself invincible, yet whatever happened to that Rand fellow?

The desperation and rage has led to harassment of some super delegates. One supporter was even charged with a felony count of threatening a public servant. We Sanders supporters face a choice about how we will behave. I don’t want to look back in ten years and be ashamed of what we did. The behavior of the losing side means something, and there is still a lot of good that can be done if we seize the moment.
<snip>

http://www.salon.com/2016/05/18/sorry_bernie_i_love_you_but_this_is_over_and_getting_embarrassing

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
90. I think someones cookies got double frosted last Tuesday - after the anti-Bernie media blitz
Fri May 20, 2016, 07:30 PM
May 2016

Bernie won quite resoundingly in one primary and Hillary squeaked out out of the other with a 0.5% win - so now it's pour it on extra thick-notice how the claims are revving up exponentially as the days go by?

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
92. If he had the money for a recount I doubt she won KY either, but he likely doesn't and won't.
Fri May 20, 2016, 07:32 PM
May 2016

Oregon however, is still coming in, and looking better and better with each hour. nt

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
47. Yeah, Rolling Stone, vaunted pillar of journalistic integrity.
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:35 PM
May 2016

It was Berniebro "Haven Monahan", fraternity member, wearing a fedora and a purple gingham shirt. He admitted it in Rolling Stone!

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
59. What bus? I say prosecute whoever made the threats. Dont you agree?
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:52 PM
May 2016

And then we'll find out if they're the same people quoted in the RS story, or if Rolling Stone is just publishing shit someone made up.

Again.

barrow-wight

(744 posts)
58. There is proof all over the place that it was Bernie supporters.
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:50 PM
May 2016

They just can't face the truth that this would have grown from the seeds of their own hatred and vitriol. This campaign is no less aggressive than Trump's. I am glad that Bernie lost for I cannot even imagine the levels of violence we would reach if it were Trump versus Sanders.

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
108. More complete bullshit. They interviewed THREE Sanders supporters.
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:39 PM
May 2016

One was totally apologetic.

The other was totally apologetic for the only part of the his text that could be interpreted as a threat (knowledge of her address).

The third was an idiot but was also issued the standard non-apology apology.

Nobody was "gleeful" about his actions, just as nobody was violent at the Nevada convention.

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
111. Ya think?
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:40 PM
May 2016

Of course, that would not have the desired effect of casting Sanders as a bully and Clinton as a perpetual victim.

bigtree

(85,984 posts)
64. because Democrats are Nazis?
Fri May 20, 2016, 06:17 PM
May 2016

...anything goes, even in response to death threats against a 5 year-old.

This isn't progressive.

trudyco

(1,258 posts)
8. And proven to be Bernie supporters?
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:25 PM
May 2016

She expected no fall out from subverting the convention rules?

I'd like to prosecute anybody calling and threatening people, anybody shooting the Sanders campaign HQ and especially anybody who broke into a Sanders employees home and ransacked it (if I got the story right).

But I suspect most of this is just BullSh*t. More of the lets Slander Sanders campaign.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
17. Yes, proven to be Bernie supporters
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:39 PM
May 2016

Plus there was no fraud at the NV convention: http://www.politifact.com/nevada/statements/2016/may/18/jeff-weaver/allegations-fraud-and-misconduct-nevada-democratic/

The shooting at Sanders campaign HQ is indeed lamentable, but it was not perpetrated by Hillary's people, so I don't see the equivalence. To my knowledge it happened months ago and there is an ongoing police investigation.

And no way is any threat to this woman and her family justifiable.

Even if there had been fraud, and even if it could not be proven that these were Bernie supporters, then it would still be Bernie's responsibility to address the issue - more forcefully than he has.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
60. You guys are ones concocting bullshit stories.
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:52 PM
May 2016

You all are making the accusations, you produce the proof.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
66. It has been proven
Fri May 20, 2016, 06:41 PM
May 2016

Rolling Stone had an interview with some of the guys who had been harassing the NV Dem caucus chair. They are proven Bernie supporters. I showed you the Politifact link that documents that there was no voter fraud at the NV caucus.

And in fact you guys are making the accusations, without any evidence.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
69. Did RS print names? Since RS had no problem finding these people, the police should have found them
Fri May 20, 2016, 06:51 PM
May 2016

by now and charged them. Where are these culprits?

moriah

(8,311 posts)
93. I don't know. The first person says they're getting nasty calls too.
Fri May 20, 2016, 07:34 PM
May 2016

Maybe the whole juvenile bs is just too much for the cops to sort through.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
94. Cops wade through bullshit all the time. These are serious accusations and the perps
Fri May 20, 2016, 07:46 PM
May 2016

are easy to find. The reason they aren't being charged is that this is all concocted. The fact that this concoction is so blatant but so many people believe it should worry you.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
121. Tell Her To Stop Whining IF She Knows AND They Know And Have
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:19 PM
May 2016

law enforcement take care of it. If she knows so much, which I don't honestly think there's any evidence of they have the phone numbers. Check them out and have them rounded by the PO-LICE!

It's NOT THAT HARD!!!

angrychair

(8,685 posts)
131. So 10s of thousands admitted to it?
Mon May 23, 2016, 04:00 PM
May 2016

So, even if a very small group did some loud bitching, doesn't mean Sanders or any other supporters of Sanders, have any connection to this issue.

All of this is nothing compared to PUMA but I never saw any HRC supporters jumping up and down to condemn them in 2008, here or anywhere else.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
27. No. It wasn't. There is no way to prove how they voted, and just saying you are a supporter
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:59 PM
May 2016

doesn't make it so. All else to the contrary is just someones sphincter flapping instead of their brain synapses.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
117. I agree
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:00 PM
May 2016
"...just saying you are a supporter doesn't make it so."

I have been saying this for months. We have a hell of a lot of "fake" supporter's here on both sides who only come here to cause problems and divide the board. The problem is as long as the trolls dislike the same candidate, many here are gullible enough to accept them and and go along with their hateful posts. It needs to stop, but it won't till people open their eyes and see the trolls for what they really are, and call them out on their BS.

DU used to be that way, I just wish it would go back to that.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
37. What about the ones that law enforcement have contacted?
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:08 PM
May 2016

Has law enforcement contacted any of them? Has a complaint even been filed?

TwilightZone

(25,451 posts)
42. I don't know. What has the Secret Service and the FBI told you?
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:15 PM
May 2016

They haven't contacted me yet to fill me in.

Nor do I really expect them to or to make public the conversations they might have. That doesn't really seem their style.

Pretty sure they investigate threats all the time. Pretty sure we hear about maybe 1% of them, if that. Probably not even that.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
74. Terroristic threatening has been the name for death threats in law for ages.
Fri May 20, 2016, 07:02 PM
May 2016

And so flack is one thing, harassment and threats are crossing a line, and so is calling her day job.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/pro-bernie-trolls-on-why-they-harassed-nevadas-democratic-chair-20160518

 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
125. Doesn't matter; Sanders doesn't need proof to issue a clear condemnation
Fri May 20, 2016, 11:10 PM
May 2016

He could have denounced such behavior at no political cost to himself; I wonder why he didn't.

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
9. I heard on the late news last night that the FBI was looking into the threatening phone calls.
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:25 PM
May 2016

I hope those bastards go down.

 

ThePhilosopher04

(1,732 posts)
12. If it really happened they belong in jail, or at least
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:27 PM
May 2016

brought to justice. I tend not to believe her though.

kiva

(4,373 posts)
13. What I don't believe is her unmitagated gall in thinking
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:31 PM
May 2016

that Bernie owes her an apology. Now that is a temper tantrum.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
28. Right? They are conflating everything about what happened about the dissent and
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:00 PM
May 2016

minimizing everything they did to cause said dissent.

procon

(15,805 posts)
44. Of course he should have apologised, just like any other leader would have.
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:29 PM
May 2016

Even when it's truly unwarranted, a good leader recognises the optics of appearing contrite and remorseful, rather than going belligerent and defiant and just tossing out a few meaningless shut-the hell-up words, but that's Sanders MO.

It would have cost him nothing to at least pretend to appear presidential, all magnanimous and concerned, but he took the low road. And incredibility, you lot wanted him acted like a bitter old coot, even at the high price he's had to pay in fighting the continuing blowback that has dogged him ever since, and killing his chances at achieving anything more than a sour grapes notoriety.

procon

(15,805 posts)
67. Well, of course, that naturally cancels out Sanders behaving like a low class jerk.
Fri May 20, 2016, 06:44 PM
May 2016

Look here, what you omit, either through intent or ignorance, is that Sanders people were attending an official function, party function, a closed politial event where they were authorized and credentialed to attend in their official capacity as his delegates. Does any of that even remotely sound similar to what a drunken individual, who just happened to be a fan of Hillary, did on his own volition as a private citizen who had no association with her campaign whatsoever?


And don't think I missed what you did here. It was a cheap dodge.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
89. Just like when Obama was supposed to apologize because a preacher said something people didn't like
Fri May 20, 2016, 07:29 PM
May 2016

Same old same old Hillary.

procon

(15,805 posts)
130. That's genius.
Mon May 23, 2016, 02:02 PM
May 2016

Do you understand what delegates are? Sanders delegates were there as his credentialed representatives, not private individuals, who were authorized by his campaign to act in his behalf and support him and his candidacy.

In what way did Rev Wright ever hold a similar position in representing Obama's campaign?

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
115. She should turn off her text messaging and only accept voice votes.
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:45 PM
May 2016

She has shown that she can handle those no matter how strongly they are aligned against her.

RichVRichV

(885 posts)
11. What is there to condemn?
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:26 PM
May 2016

The vast vast majority of Sander's supporters are peaceful and nice. Don't believe me? Go to a Sander's rally sometime. Even go wearing a pro-Hillary or pro-Trump shirt. I very much doubt you would be attacked or threatened. Maybe a little heckling is all.


If any individuals did in fact threaten Ms. Lange or her family, they should be identified, arrested, and prosecuted. It's as simple as that. Once that happens, we can publicly identify who they are and who they actually support. But to blanket condemn Bernie supporters or Bernie himself is nonsense. He has never once come out and condoned or promoted violence against any candidate or their supporters.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
14. Those who made such death threats need to be taken in by authorities.
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:31 PM
May 2016

You're right, it is not laughable at all. I don't think any one is laughing about this.

Those who issue threats needs to be taken seriously.

They need to get the authorities, and I am curious to see the developments in apprehending them.

This type of harassment needs to stop as it is ineffective, idiotic, and just plain wrong.

I know that her actions has provoked anger, however death threats just makes things worse.

 

taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
18. Yeah, she's making it up
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:40 PM
May 2016

and the voicemails that have been published are fake. The rolling stone article that tracked down the callers (Bernie supporters) is bullshit. Jezebel also tracked down callers... it's all fake. It's all a conspiracy perpetuated by Brock.

Pathetic. Get a life.

Blue_Adept

(6,397 posts)
40. You need more tinfoil
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:12 PM
May 2016

Everything that might in the slightest way cast a Bernie supporter in a bad light is bullshit. The ultra partisanship around these parts is frightening these days.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
19. If Bernie apologizes
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:43 PM
May 2016

I'll bet you all of those calling this 'bullshit' and using other excuses not to take it seriously will suddenly start posting "I was hoping he'd just make a full statement on this issue and put it to bed".

Generic Brad

(14,274 posts)
68. Except when they are investigating Clinton's e-mail server
Fri May 20, 2016, 06:50 PM
May 2016

They only have credibility on that single issue. Riiiight.

Autumn

(45,012 posts)
70. Riiiight Obviously you haven't read any threads about her email issue.
Fri May 20, 2016, 06:55 PM
May 2016

The FBI is part of the vast RW CT and Comey is a RW plant out to get Hillary.

TwilightZone

(25,451 posts)
29. But nobody threw a chair, so the rest of that is irrelevant and can be summarily dismissed.
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:01 PM
May 2016

Yes, I'm being sarcastic. Gotta love the chair defense of a bunch of misogynistic dopes.

Oh, before I forget...she was just asking for it.

TwilightZone

(25,451 posts)
35. The people who called/texted threats to Democratic women and called them cunts and bitches
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:05 PM
May 2016

Anything else I can help you with?

frylock

(34,825 posts)
41. When people lie, it calls into question their credibility.
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:14 PM
May 2016

The fact that no chairs were thrown, despite the repeated claims, makes it perfectly reasonable to question any other statements coming from that party.

 

TimPlo

(443 posts)
85. To you maybe "When people lie, it calls into question their credibility."
Fri May 20, 2016, 07:11 PM
May 2016

But then against you have never been under fire in Bosnia getting off a plane either. So you can't understand what it means to have faith in the anointed one.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
31. I assume she has contacted the authorities. Just like Bernie's staff did when his Nevada Hdqtrs were
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:02 PM
May 2016

shot at.

Unfortunately there are a lot of assholes in this world.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
36. She's already been caught in a string of lies.
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:07 PM
May 2016

At this point I'd say any claim she makes is just another lie. That's the reputation you earn when you repeatedly lie for an unethical candidate.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
45. I got death threats over the placement of my garbage can
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:30 PM
May 2016

adjacent to my neighbor's waste bin.

I was so very afraid, I didn't accept the carrot cake she baked me on my birthday.

Okay, yeah, I did accept it, and it was delicious.

This has to be the silliest, scooped from the bottom of the barrel, bullshitingest I'm inventing words for it inane plonck worthy doo doo.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
62. Here's sound advice that should be universally accepted as true....
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:56 PM
May 2016


someone offers death threats....help them out, and hope it's really not as bad as you originally thought it would be.

I can't think of one circumstance where that may be bad advice...can you?

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
52. Sounds like the primaries reflect DU anymore. A lot of hate, anger, and petty ass people whining
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:44 PM
May 2016

and complaining about as many things as they can possibly find every day.

Seek and ye shall find.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
57. Well, this settles the problem, if it was not Bernie supporters then all the post here on DU
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:49 PM
May 2016

About "fraud" and there wasn't any anger displayed and all is just fine, no problems.

bigtree

(85,984 posts)
99. it's not rw opinion like so many supporters use here to attack Hillary
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:14 PM
May 2016

...these are quotes from a DEMOCRAT.

This is how you respond to this woman receiving death threats?

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
129. "...these are quotes from a DEMOCRAT." Doesn't mean they aren't right wing.
Sun May 22, 2016, 02:30 PM
May 2016
This is how you respond to this woman receiving death threats?


Were they throwing chairs when they made those "death threats"?

Number23

(24,544 posts)
97. I am so glad that she is continuing to speak out about this. The Bern'd outs keep trying to spin
Fri May 20, 2016, 08:26 PM
May 2016

and minimize this while simultaneously screaming about the ONE Hillary supporter who assaulted a Bernie supporter, but no matter how many calories they burn, this story isn't going away.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
103. of course it's not however we saw how much effect it had on voters this past Tuesday
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:26 PM
May 2016

so keep it up folks - please the results are incredible

Number23

(24,544 posts)
106. I NEVER know what you're talking about and never understand why you find my posts so interesting
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:33 PM
May 2016

that you keep needing to respond to me lately. Do you not have any friends here or something?

Your comment makes absolutely no sense. And I'm not telling you that as a request for clarification.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
107. actually I rarely look at whom I am responding to but I'm hardly singling you out
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:37 PM
May 2016

and if commenting that the antiBernie media blitz that started monday had little to no effect on voters in Tuesdays primaries is beyond comprehension what else can I say

Number23

(24,544 posts)
109. Bernie lost Kentucky and got a 12 point win in Oregon when he needed a MINIMUM 30+ blowout
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:39 PM
May 2016

So yeah, the effect his unhinged campaign and supporters is having on his delegate count right now is pretty freaking obvious. But I guess you can't see that along with user names.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
119. Thom Hartmann Said On His Show That She Has The Phone Numbers Of
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:15 PM
May 2016

all who called and they can contact them. And THEY have and the calls don't implicate Sanders Supporters that they know of. He stated that what they found is that most where from unknown and/or younger callers... but no evidence that they said they were Bernie supporters.

No matter, if SHE wants to keeps complaining all she needs to do is track the numbers and have law enforcement handle it. Apparently she seems to want to keep dissing Sanders! She looked like a grown up, so maybe she should act like one.

This seems to be MORE of the type of incident that Boxer pulled. Believe what you want, but she's simply turning more people against Hillary. I don't understand why Clinton and her people don't understand this, they will need his supporters and to this day I've seen very little of a peace offering.

It is what it is...

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
122. At this point
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:27 PM
May 2016

the Clinton campaign would need a fucking flatbed truck to wheel out an olive branch of the required size.

We're talking a GMO-sized thing, and it ain't gonna happen.

Akicita

(1,196 posts)
127. Did CNN ask why she ruled the yeas won on the voice votes when it was obvious the nays actually won?
Fri May 20, 2016, 11:38 PM
May 2016

Oh yeah. That would take actual journalists.

bigtree

(85,984 posts)
128. it's fantasy imagining that the nays would win
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:01 AM
May 2016

...since Hillary supporters far outnumbered Sanders supporters at the convention.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
134. There have not been any charges filed or any investigation brought forth
Mon May 23, 2016, 04:44 PM
May 2016

for they do not need another investigation on their hands linking Hillary or the DNC to some negative shit and shenanigans. It's really that simple. They do not want to be found out they are lying and generally making shit up, and an investigation would do just that.

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