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A hackable server is the safest way to let your sponsors read your email. (Original Post) elehhhhna May 2016 OP
I didn't understand why Hillary circumvented the government system The_Casual_Observer May 2016 #1
Because you get CAbinet member level service and attention? Uh, no. elehhhhna May 2016 #2
I'm don't know the details, but I was under the impression that this wasn't used for The_Casual_Observer May 2016 #5
Hillary's mail server was used for government business. -none May 2016 #8
No it's what she used almost exclusively for state business elehhhhna May 2016 #13
Then if laws or rules were violated then I guess it's going to get very bad for Hillary. The_Casual_Observer May 2016 #16
"until I recently had to deal with a government network and the associated IT department" jberryhill May 2016 #4
Government is basically incompetent Fumesucker May 2016 #10
This isn't really a matter of incompetence jberryhill May 2016 #12
It is the essence of that argument though, government can't do it for whatever reason Fumesucker May 2016 #15
Actually, I don't think so. There seem to rules The_Casual_Observer May 2016 #20
I just happen to have worked with a very small aspect The_Casual_Observer May 2016 #19
I think it became evident to her when ordered to turn over official emails... lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #17
And your significant other Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #3
Because he's super trustworthyish! elehhhhna May 2016 #6
Maybe if you want a dozen intelligence services to read them leveymg May 2016 #7
It the corporate espionage, too elehhhhna May 2016 #11
Hiding in plain sight? nm cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #9
Is that what CIA Director John Brennan said? JoePhilly May 2016 #14
Maybe she should have used his server, instead of the one in her basement Autumn May 2016 #18
 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
1. I didn't understand why Hillary circumvented the government system
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:28 PM
May 2016

for her personal emails until I recently had to deal with a government network and the associated IT department. It became very clear after that.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
2. Because you get CAbinet member level service and attention? Uh, no.
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:30 PM
May 2016

I get your point but if she doesn't know enough about tech to secure SOS emails, she isn't on top of shit enough to be President. Or SOS, really.

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
5. I'm don't know the details, but I was under the impression that this wasn't used for
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:33 PM
May 2016

official SOS business.

-none

(1,884 posts)
8. Hillary's mail server was used for government business.
Fri May 20, 2016, 07:05 PM
May 2016

That is why the FBI is investigating Hillary and her server.

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
16. Then if laws or rules were violated then I guess it's going to get very bad for Hillary.
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:39 PM
May 2016

By now they should have enough evidence to make a case. Would you think that knowing that she is practically the nominee for president that the government would do something by now? This would cause a great upheaval to the system at this point, it's all pretty weird.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
4. "until I recently had to deal with a government network and the associated IT department"
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:32 PM
May 2016

Yep.

We're talking about a cabinet level officer interested in being able to timely communicate around the clock, not a 9-5 civil service worker who cuts out when they leave the office.

There's an operational tradeoff there.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
10. Government is basically incompetent
Fri May 20, 2016, 07:10 PM
May 2016

It's amazing how widely the meme spreads when it's politically advantageous.

If the SoS can't communicate official government business in a timely manner through official government channels then there is something seriously wrong with the government.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
12. This isn't really a matter of incompetence
Fri May 20, 2016, 07:24 PM
May 2016

I did not mean to suggest that government is incompetent, which is a very broad statement verging on meaningless.

It's more of a process issue - such as the situation we have in which the DoD personnel systems are unable to interface productively with the VA system. Or where the FAA has to mange similarly incompatible stuff.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
15. It is the essence of that argument though, government can't do it for whatever reason
Fri May 20, 2016, 07:33 PM
May 2016

Somehow I think if the Secretary of State really bore down on the IT staff they would have managed to get her secure and reliable communications as a matter of pride if nothing else.

As I pointed out in an OP a few months ago, a leader who bypasses the official systems for their own convenience isn't doing their staff any favors, it's another example of poor leadership.

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
20. Actually, I don't think so. There seem to rules
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:55 PM
May 2016

And regulations that are impossible to change. They say "No" .
Instead, from what I can tell about the Clintons they said forget it and did it on their own.

This of course is only speculation.

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
19. I just happen to have worked with a very small aspect
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:43 PM
May 2016

Of the VA network. Believe me, if any reasonable person tries to deal with this , its impossible. I don't know what Hillary was dealing with, but I'm sure it was at least as bad.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
17. I think it became evident to her when ordered to turn over official emails...
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:42 PM
May 2016

... she first was given the opportunity to delete 30,000 "personal" ones, which apparently included correspondence to then-General Petraeus. Recipes for chocolate chip cookies, no doubt.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
11. It the corporate espionage, too
Fri May 20, 2016, 07:22 PM
May 2016

Big bucks there.

Frontrunning stocks is superlucrative.

Think of the possibilities.

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