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Do not blame Hillary primary voters for her general election loss. Put the blame where it belongs. (Original Post) Skwmom May 2016 OP
Miss Cleo is that you? boston bean May 2016 #1
FCOL. treestar May 2016 #2
Ya. Blame the voters for your corrupt candidate think May 2016 #24
The voters picked our candidate treestar May 2016 #41
The ones that had to wait 5.5 hours in Arizona? lostnfound May 2016 #39
Link to prove that? treestar May 2016 #42
Another prayer for Trump? JoePhilly May 2016 #3
To be fair, it wasn't really a secret. Nt NCTraveler May 2016 #4
Trumparoni! boston bean May 2016 #5
If I wanted Trump, I would be saying please, please, please nominate Hillary. Skwmom May 2016 #19
The process was not rigged Nonhlanhla May 2016 #6
But But But, the orange blowhard! What don't you get about this? boston bean May 2016 #7
I get that this is a Democratic site Nonhlanhla May 2016 #8
I was wholeheartedly agreeing with you! boston bean May 2016 #11
I know. Nonhlanhla May 2016 #13
Then we are doubly in agreement! boston bean May 2016 #14
+1 Arkansas Granny May 2016 #9
... SidDithers May 2016 #10
Irrefutable! Arneoker May 2016 #17
The Democratic Establishment and the Sanders supporters better find a way to make peace onenote May 2016 #12
Don't worry about it. She's inevitable remember? Katashi_itto May 2016 #18
No one is inevitable. Not Trump. Not Sanders. Not Clinton. onenote May 2016 #22
Thats been the catch phrase of Clintonitas since the campaign began. Own it. Next. Katashi_itto May 2016 #27
And having no substantive response has become the answer of choice onenote May 2016 #28
Project much? Katashi_itto May 2016 #30
Point proven. onenote May 2016 #31
I marvel at their total disconnect from reality Katashi_itto May 2016 #32
How did the Democratic establishment rigged the process in Hillary's favor? LiberalFighter May 2016 #15
(snort) Sinistrous May 2016 #16
You must be smoking something pretty powerful there! Arneoker May 2016 #21
It was hardly just the rigged debate schedule. Sinistrous May 2016 #34
This... DURHAM D May 2016 #23
"If anything the DNC made it easier for Sanders to win." Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #37
She hasn't lost the general election. LisaL May 2016 #20
Let's assume that she does lose Arneoker May 2016 #25
Why are you excusing Hillary? She is the one who rigged it. She rigged the DNC with DWS pdsimdars May 2016 #26
I will clarify. The Clintons are the head of the Democratic Establishment. Skwmom May 2016 #36
You are in effect blaming Obama for DWS as head of the DNC. LiberalFighter May 2016 #40
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #29
Let's blame Ralph Nader! imagine2015 May 2016 #33
And who gets credit for her winning the general election? rock May 2016 #35
Lay the blame on "progressive" voters who won't vote for the progressive candidate, Hillary Clinton. baldguy May 2016 #38

treestar

(82,383 posts)
2. FCOL.
Sat May 21, 2016, 08:27 AM
May 2016

There's nobody to blame but the voters. They get to pick. If they want Trump, they'll get all they deserve.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
41. The voters picked our candidate
Sat May 21, 2016, 02:22 PM
May 2016

The Democratic voters.

Yes the voters can be responsible for who they vote for. We aren't zombies.

lostnfound

(16,178 posts)
39. The ones that had to wait 5.5 hours in Arizona?
Sat May 21, 2016, 11:13 AM
May 2016

Or the ones left with no food all day on caucus days?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
42. Link to prove that?
Sat May 21, 2016, 02:23 PM
May 2016

Who was so dumb there was no food break for a caucus? Thank the Rs for the long lines, but they affect all voters.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
6. The process was not rigged
Sat May 21, 2016, 08:30 AM
May 2016

It's time to stop this nonsense.

Of course the Democratic establishment preferred Hillary. She's been a Democrat for decades, and has huge influence in the Democratic Party. But that does not mean that a newcomer did not have a chance. We saw that in 2008. Hillary was the establishment candidate then too, and she lost to a newcomer who knew how the primary process worked and ran a super-smart campaign. So it is entirely possible to win even against the person who is seen as the early frontrunner, provided you know what you're doing. Bernie just did not quite manage that this time around, although he did very well. In the end the voters decided. The voters. Not the Democratic Establishment.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
12. The Democratic Establishment and the Sanders supporters better find a way to make peace
Sat May 21, 2016, 08:37 AM
May 2016

Because no one wins (except Trump) if they stay divided.

Sanders needs the Democratic Establishment to win the General Election. Clinton needs Sanders supporters to win the General Election.

It's not that complicated.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
28. And having no substantive response has become the answer of choice
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:13 AM
May 2016

for some Sanders' supporters these days.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
32. I marvel at their total disconnect from reality
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:22 AM
May 2016


We hate you . . . . now let's be friends.
You don't matter . . . . now let's be friends.
We don't need you . . . . now let's be friends.
You are all bullies and thugs . . . . now let's be friends.
You are sexist . . . . now let's be friends.

LiberalFighter

(50,912 posts)
15. How did the Democratic establishment rigged the process in Hillary's favor?
Sat May 21, 2016, 08:44 AM
May 2016

If anything the DNC made it easier for Sanders to win. But the majority of voters didn't want him.

Arneoker

(375 posts)
21. You must be smoking something pretty powerful there!
Sat May 21, 2016, 08:51 AM
May 2016

To respond to the truth like that. You can't really believe that Hillary has gotten 3 million more votes in the primaries (you know, where regular people can vote easily) because of DNC may have screwed up scheduling the debates.

Sinistrous

(4,249 posts)
34. It was hardly just the rigged debate schedule.
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:36 AM
May 2016

There will always be the Bernie blackout by the MSM.

Take your blinders off.

Arneoker

(375 posts)
25. Let's assume that she does lose
Sat May 21, 2016, 08:58 AM
May 2016

I'm sure that there will be plenty of people to blame. A lot of the less thoughtful among the Bernie supporters would put it all on her. They don't like to acknowledge that they are responsible for their own vote, and how they use it, or don't use it.

As far the "Establishment" rigging anything, the evidence being presented seems to be scheduling the Democratic debates, voter suppression orchestrated by Republicans that would harm Hillary's voters more than Sanders', and the nuttiest of conspiracy theories.

There is a tiny case with the first, but that is not why Hillary is ahead by 3 million in primary votes, and ahead in PLEDGED delegates, many of which were picked by less democratic caucus states, which the Bernie supports keep saying favor their candidate.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
26. Why are you excusing Hillary? She is the one who rigged it. She rigged the DNC with DWS
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:00 AM
May 2016

the DNC is the Clinton Machine. And that was organized by Hillary and Bill.

Response to Skwmom (Original post)

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
38. Lay the blame on "progressive" voters who won't vote for the progressive candidate, Hillary Clinton.
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:57 AM
May 2016

That's where it would belong.

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