Hillary's best outcome is for Bernie to be President

[pdsimdars]

There seem to be only 3 outcomes: (1) Hillary as President, (2) Trump as President and (3) Bernie as President.

If Hillary becomes President, they are already talking of impeaching her. We've all been through that.

If Trump becomes President, they have said they will have only one test for their AG pick. They will pick someone who will go after the Clintons, for lying to congress about the emails and their foundation, you name it. But that is their criteria.

If Bernie becomes President, I don't think he's the kind of guy to hold a grudge and I don't think she'll get prosecuted, but Bernie would probably pardon her anyway. Remember, he doesn't care about her damned emails.

Those seem to be the only choices, unless something really strange happens, like an alien coming down, but bar that, this is what we have.

[YouDig]

1. Let's not let the GOP decide who we nominate.

[Betty Karlson]

18. Disingenuous: for months, you guys have been peddling the lie that we should pick Clinton

because "be afraid be very afraid TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!!!!!!!"

And suddenly, the GOP is irrelevant because...

why?

It's her turn? The power of Debbie commands us? Also racism and sexism? And anyway MATH? Or maybe you should accuse us once more of being Hell-bound sluts, lusting for Berniebros who are complacent millennial key-board warriors who are easily duped and don't do their homework?

And who should now stop peddling that meme about Sanders being stronger against Trump than Clinton, so all of a sudden Trump must become irrelevant?

[YouDig]

19. I've only been here a month. We should pick Hillary because she won more votes.

I guess you have a problem with the person with more votes winning.

[Betty Karlson]

20. Caucuses yield fewer votes than primaries. The number itself tell us very little.

And if you are so keen on Democracy, can we please hold our horses until Califirnia has had a chance to tell us whom they want to be nominated? It's only our biggest state, and it happens to hold a lot of Latinos and LGBT folks and progressives.

But I guess your side never really cared about Latinos or LGBT, right? "Clinton is like your abuela" and "praisie Nancy Reagan": that is the Clinton style. And as for all those Californian progressives: you don't need them, or so David Brock tells us every day - through his acolytes.

[YouDig]

21. 270 elected delegates. Game over!

[Betty Karlson]

24. Neither Clinton nor Sanders have the pledged delegates to win outright. Game on.

[boston bean]

2. This is crazy thinking. I happen to like democracy.

You know where people vote and the winner is the winner.

[Katashi_itto]

4. I like it to. Cool concept! What country are you referring to where such things that happens?

[flor-de-jasmim]

8. So you would be against the superdelegates then?

And what about that idea of getting the superdelegates under your wing before the primaries even begin, of stacking the deck at every stage?

[boston bean]

9. I'm for superdelegates going with who the people in the Democratic Primary chose

Not overturning that result.

[flor-de-jasmim]

13. Hmmm, so you agree they should not make a statement of support ...

BEFORE the convention?
BEFORE the primaries begin?

[boston bean]

14. I think at this point it doesn't make one ounce of difference.

Cause there will be one candidate that has more pledged delegates.

So, what are you crying in your soup for?

[flor-de-jasmim]

15. I'm not crying in my soup. I'm just saying...

that to say NOW that people should vote the will of the people when they unofficially were quite vocal about their support before they knew what that will was, is either ingenuous or hypocritical. That's all.

[boston bean]

16. What are you complaining about? The one with the most pledged delegates is the nominee.

What more do you want?

[Armstead]

26. How about the Superdelegates had had an open mind from the beghinning?

If you're all for the "will of the voters" maybe the Superdelegates should not have helped to discourage people from voting for an opponent of Clinton FROM BEFORE THE PRIMARY BEGAN by rigging the final count at the outset.

I know a number of democrats who prefer Sanders and his position, but reluctantly supported Clinton because the deck was so stacked in her favor from the outset.

How many people out there were dissuaded from considering Sanders to be a srious contender by the simple fact that the "math" was stacked against him from the beginning by the Superdelegates? It creates a self fulfilling prophecy. "Oh Clinton has already won. I guess I should support her."

Just saying....because you're concerned about the voters having a chance to make choices for the nominee.

[boston bean]

28. Why does that matter at this point to you?

In 2008 Hillary had most and then they moved over to Obama who had more pledged delegate.

[madokie]

3. I agree

The 'CONs aren't going to give up on the clintons you can bet on that. If she makes it to the oval office it will be a 100 percent shit show with the clintons front and center.

I guess she can pardon herself?

[AgerolanAmerican]

27. The "pardon herself" scenario is not going to happen

In order to pardon herself she'd first need to be convicted of a crime.

But she'd be impeached first, and lose the pardon power before she could do that.

[gollygee]

5. They would impeach (or at least try to) either Hillary or Bernie

Burning up tax dollars harassing Democrats and then preaching fiscal responsibility is what they do best.

These discussions seem weird at this point when it's so clear that Hillary has more votes and it's almost impossible for Bernie to win anymore. I was hopeful after Michigan, but facts are facts.

[Merryland]

6. Why would they try to impeach Bernie?

That's absurd, an interesting cover for the candidate who continues to slide down the polls.

[gollygee]

30. I'm working with history. For the past 20 years or so, they try to impeach Democratic presidents.

I don't see why they wouldn't work to find some excuse with Bernie just like they did with Obama. It isn't about Bernie. They would find an excuse to try to impeach Jesus Christ if he were a Democratic president.

[pinebox]

22. Bernie? Nawwww

he has nothing they could impeach him over.

[gollygee]

31. They don't need real reasons. They make stuff up. N/t

[pinebox]

32. Sure they do but you need evidence for impeachment

That's why Obama hasn't been yet

[gollygee]

35. That's why I said "try to impeach" n/t

[pdsimdars]

29. You're just making things up. They won't try to impeach Bernie. Don't be silly.

[BootinUp]

7. They are not going to impeach her. They have nothing

to base it on.

[BootinUp]

11. Glad I could help you this morning. nt

[pinebox]

23. They are already calling for it

on her first day should she be the nominee

[BootinUp]

25. Sounds like Red meat to the tea party. nt

[oberliner]

12. Everything you have written here is wrong

1. There seem to be only 2 outcomes.

2. Sitting presidents cannot be impeached for alleged crimes that occurred before they were elected.

3. See number 2.

4. Bernie is definitely someone who holds a grudge.

5. Bernie never said that he doesn't care about her damned emails. In fact, he called the emails "a very serious issue".

Sanders: Clinton emails 'very serious issue'

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/31/politics/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-emails-iowa/

[tk2kewl]

17. re your #2

...they will continue their investigations while she is president

...she will lie to investigators, and not about a blow job, but about matters of national security

...they will pursue impeachment

[kstewart33]

33. Some huuuuge assumptions there in your analysis.

That the Republicans will impeach Clinton. No way the country wants to go through that again even if the Repubs have the votes in the House. And on what basis are they going to impeach her? Her emails? Server? Benghazi?

Odds are at this point that she will not be indicted over her emails. No evidence yet that she intentionally broke the law, and the investigation is almost over.

If Bernie did get the nomination, he would be destroyed by the Republican assault machine. Bern's never been vetted by the media. But he has privately been vetted by the Repubs who would love to have a go at him in the general.

His biography has too much for the Repubs to work with.

[BainsBane]

34. Bernie is not going to be president

He is not going to be the nominee. Clinton is now only 90 delegates away from the threshold for nomination. Bernie has no path to victory. It's time to face reality.

Every prediction site and political analyst, all the betting sites, show Hillary beating Trump.
You all insist the corporate polls showing Bernie doing better than Hillary against Trump are sacrosanct, and Bernie and his campaign insist they should take precedence over the votes of citizens. But somehow when it comes to Clinton beating Trump you insist on ignoring them.

The same people hoping for Trump to beat Clinton also insisted she would never be the nominee. The predictions by the Hillary detractors have been wrong every step of the way. It's time to give up the prediction game because the fact is you all are terrible at it.

[One Black Sheep]

37. Hillary should drop out gracefully, and negotiate a pardon privately

with Bernie behind the scenes when he is the president. Hillary can then retire gracefully with all her misdeeds put safely behind her, concealed from the public.

Otherwise, Bernie may have to play hardball, and Hillary will lose for sure versus Trump.

Even if Hillary somehow won, she would in all likelihood be engulfed in scandals from day one, and then have to resign in disgrace, like Nixon did, or be frog-marched into police custody.

[pdsimdars]

38. If it isn't Bernie, in all liklihood it will be Trump and they will go at her with everything they

can. I don't think anyone wants that. I hope they all wake up soon enough to prevent that.