Trouble in Paradise: Nancy Pelosi not endorsing Hillary, Dems panic

[BigBearJohn]

Nancy Pelosi, House Minority leader and first female Speaker of The House did not endorse Hillary Clinton today to be the first female President, and Democrats are in a full panic.

But House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Reps. Barbara Lee, Alan Lowenthal and Norma Torres said they aren’t ready to publicly support either Clinton or Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, who is popular butlagging in delegates.

Lowenthal, from Long Beach, said he’s still watching the candidates and doesn’t expect to announce a choice before California votes next month. As a state senator, Lowenthal endorsed Barack Obama in January 2008.

He said he and the other undecided House members talk privately about what to do and when to endorse. He said announcing support strategically could help bring the Democratic Party together.

“A lot of us think that we’re going to play a major role in making sure that we unify behind our candidate. We’re going to have to really be very actively involved, all of us … to make sure that we come together and make sure that we don’t split apart, like we are watching on the Republican side,” Lowenthal said.

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[CountAllVotes]

1. Good for you Nancy Pelosi!

Glad she didn't run out and kiss her on stage like Boxer did.

She has stamina and grace this lady does and I've always liked her.

She'd also be an excellent VP choice eh Bernie Sanders?

& recommend.

[FarPoint]

10. She is not PUBLICLY endorsing either Democratic Candidate.....yet.

It applies to both candidates.... Soon, , she will endorse Hillary Clinton for whom she privately endorses.

[CountAllVotes]

13. How do you know?

How does any one know? Got a link for that?

[FarPoint]

16. I'm a life long Democrat....

Pelosi is as well.... it's just the appropriate timing she chooses to announce.

[CountAllVotes]

26. That means nothing

Being a life long Democrat doesn't mean you have a direct line to Pelosi's mind.

[JDPriestly]

38. I'm a life-long Democrat too, and I can't stand Hillary. So being a life-long Democrat

means nothing in this instance.

Neither Pelosi's nor any other politician's endorsement means anything to me anyway.

I''m a better judge of character than most of them and have nothing to lose or gain by expressing my honest opinion, and I do not like Hillary.

I'm not a huge Pelosi fan, but it is telling that she has hesitated to endorse anyone. So many Democratic power-hungry have endorsed Hillary in spite of all her drawbacks and character flaws plus her horrible public presentation skills, there must be some reason that Pelosi has not joined the herd.

[BillZBubb]

79. Me too!

[Fawke Em]

40. I'm a life-long Democrat. So what?

[JaneyVee]

27. Here:

The California Democrat made a similar statement to Politico: "I love Hillary Clinton, and I think she's going to be a great president...I am not talking to you about the timing of my endorsement. ... I feel very confident she will be president."

A source familiar with her thinking told Politico that Pelosi fears that an endorsement could reduce voter turnout in her state's primary on June 7.

[CountAllVotes]

34. I voted already

and nothing nor any one could have changed my mind. I don't vote based on "endorsements" luckily.

[Chasstev365]

2. Obviously, Pelosi Hates Women. What else could it be?

[Autumn]

14. Pelosi is just going where there are boys, she hasn't heard about the special place she's going to.

I'm sure someone will remind her.

[Chasstev365]

18. You've got to be kidding me? People can dislike Hillary and not be sexist!

Maybe Pelosi will see Bill in that special place you refer to. If Bil had controlled himself I'm 1998, we never would have had George W Bush as President.

[Autumn]

43. Did you miss a couple of Hill surrogates and their remarks about women who don't support Hill?

Google Madeline Allbright and a special place in hell. Another surrogate said women only support Bernie because that's where the boys are.

[seabeyond]

54. Ya. I heard. You keep spinning it. And Sanders says he is not a politician and not establishment.

[Autumn]

69. Nice to see that you are back sea.

Not sure what the fuck your comment has to do with what I posted to the person who responded to me but whatever

[appalachiablue]

86. Gloria Steinam said the boyz bit to Bill Maher, and he saw the bull.

She walked it back, sort of...

[Trajan]

60. She's doing it because ..

BOYS! ...

[seabeyond]

62. I get you all have little to know respect for feminism, or the conversation to be had. Hence, no

desire at all to have that conversation. A lot of us get that this little subthread is the dig at the feminist culture. All of you can declare yourself a feminist, but this is not a conversation the feminists have, with such disrespect of women, one way or another.

If we cannot look at what and why women like Steinam and Albright said what they did, without emotion (you know, hysteria), then you are a feminist in name only.

Edit: The Democratic base includes the feminist community. This is addressing the part where I state sanders has one base, and it excludes much of the Democratic base, hence his loss.

[jeff47]

67. What, exactly, was feminist about Steinem's statement?

She belittled young women, and spoke as if they have no interest other than finding a man.

Edit: The Democratic base includes the feminist community. This is addressing the part where I state sanders has one base, and it excludes much of the Democratic base, hence his loss.

So the "feminist community" does not include around 70-80% of Millennials?

[seabeyond]

71. Here is the thing. I made it clear I wouldn't be having this conversation with people unwilling or

not capable.

[hellofromreddit]

82. Assert and run.

[seabeyond]

84. Address what I want and then be done. Yes. I get that choice. My reply was not for anyone subthread.

[Lizzie Poppet]

63. And black people. And probably kittens and puppies, too!

Just whose turn does she think it is?!?

[sufrommich]

3. Where is your link? nt

[Fawke Em]

42. That Millennial in your sig pic looks like she's keeping her

distance from Hillary, making that a very real image.

LOL.

[seabeyond]

56. And I am seeing her join the group, getting comfortable, facing the group, to join, be a part,

listen, talk, laugh, .... To enjoy the ride.

We see things differently, for sure.

[bkkyosemite]

4. The last paragraph....it may not happen

[Trust Buster]

5. Silly, she's a Congresswoman from California. Connect the dots.

[seabeyond]

6. There is no link. I have no issue with this little bit we are allowed to read.

[amborin]

7. but is she a super pledged to hrc? hedging bets?

[Alex4Martinez]

8. Suddenly I'm in love with Nancy Pelosi. It's about time we speak up.

Let's be real, we know DAMN WELL that many if not most of our smart Democrats must know how weak the candidate is.

I would guess that a lot of our leaders don't like here, don't trust her, and wish she would just go away but can't say it.

Go Nancy,

GO!

[JaneyVee]

28. Yes, GO NANCY! Heres her statement:

The California Democrat made a similar statement to Politico: "I love Hillary Clinton, and I think she's going to be a great president...I am not talking to you about the timing of my endorsement. ... I feel very confident she will be president."

A source familiar with her thinking told Politico that Pelosi fears that an endorsement could reduce voter turnout in her state's primary on June 7.

[JDPriestly]

47. It's just typical Nancy Pelosi hedging her bets. Not exactly the picture of courage.

Always trying to be somewhere in the middle. It does not work well.

She is not my congresswoman. Xavier Becerra represents me, and I think he is the greatest. I wish he were running for the Senate, but he does not like raising money he told me and some of his other constituents.

[seabeyond]

57. Lordy, lol.... And how quickly the freeze comes, with more information. Such a hoot. Wow.

[JDPriestly]

65. Glad you enjoyed it, Sea Beyond.

[ChiciB1]

29. I Think You're Just A Bit Too Naive... Sorry, But They Play

lots of games and this time around they've decided to use a different strategy. They've seen other supporters getting attacked... they like to keep a high profile and smile for now.... UNTIL....

[seabeyond]

33. Can't win for losing, right? Glad we are all Democrats on Du what a strong party to walk into GE.

[Fawke Em]

46. A strong party with a weak candidate (if it's Hillary).

[seabeyond]

50. You and RW keep trying to make Clinton weak. That is clear. Enough adults in the room recognize

her three decade of strength.

[Alex4Martinez]

70. 2008: "Clinton backers scold Pelosi on super delegate comment"

Pelosi was a far, far better leader than DWS.

Both articles below are from March, 2008:

...In an ABC interview earlier this month, Pelosi said it was her belief whichever candidate ended the round a primaries with the pledged-delegate lead should be awarded the Democratic nomination by the superdelegates. That argument would benefit Barack Obama, whose current pledged delegate lead of 171 is virtually insurmountable given the party's proportional delegation allocations, even if Clinton were to win each of the remaining 10 primary contests.

In their letter to Pelosi, the backers urged the House speaker to "clarify your position on super-delegates and reflect in your comments a more open view to the optional independent actions of each of the delegates at the National Convention in August."

"If the votes of the superdelegates overturn what happened in the elections it would be harmful to the Democratic Party," Pelosi said.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/27/clinton-backers-scold-pelosi-on-superdelegate-comment/

Pelosi is sticking to her superdelegate argument.

(CNN) - A recent letter from several Hillary Clinton fundraisers to Nancy Pelosi seeking she step back from her contention that superdelegates should support the pledged-delegate leader appears to have had little effect on the House Speaker.

Pelosi spokesman Brendan Daly said late Wednesday the California Democrat stands by her argument that the party's superdelegates would do damage if they go against the will of voters and hand the nomination to the candidate who finished second among those delegates awarded from the round of caucuses and primaries.

"The speaker believes it would do great harm to the Democratic Party if superdelegates are perceived to overturn the will of the voters," Daly said. "This has been her position throughout this primary season, regardless of who was ahead at any particular point in delegates or votes.”

The statement comes a day after nearly 20 high-profile Clinton fundraisers strongly criticized Pelosi for that position, arguing instead that the superdelegates "have an obligation to make an informed, individual decision about whom to support and who would be the party’s strongest nominee."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/27/clinton-backers-dont-sway-pelosi/

Pelosi has been pretty consistent.

[WhiteTara]

72. And when she endorses Hillary

does the bus run over her then?

[BillZBubb]

81. No because she will have played fair and square...

...unlike all the Hillary sycophants. If she waits until after the primaries are completed, Pelosi will be correct, given her position, to endorse whomever she thinks fit.

[Skink]

9. If supers had this position I'd be fine with them.

Wait and see.

[seabeyond]

11. Also in this little bit, I am not seeing panic. Nor where Boxer refuses to endorse Clinton. Warren

has not endorsed yet. Their right. They have their reasons.

[sheshe2]

17. check out the link in the posts below yours, sea.

[seabeyond]

21. Ty. Chicken shit to have a Libertarian voice yet not proudly put up the link for all to see.

[sheshe2]

87. You are welcome, sea.

Unbelievable!

[Dem2]

12. Oh. My. God. I found the source for that story.

http://prntly.com/2016/04/25/the-shocking-truth-about-prntly-com-inside-the-internets-most-mysterious-site/

So what is the TRUTH about Prntly?



Prntly was founded in 2014 by Alex Portelli, a former libertarian candidate for Mayor, and now political activist. He has been involved with many aspects of the conservative movement, and has recently endorsed Donald Trump. As the blog section of Prntly expanded, the print side of the company took second stage, but was still providing help to candidates like Ben Carson in New Hampshire through beautiful printing supplies.

You should self-delete this.

[sheshe2]

15. Just found it as well.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/04/02/in-the-year-of-trump-a-made-up-news-website-run-by-an-ex-convict-finds-success/

[Dem2]

22. So now we're getting Trump-endorsed propaganda here?

I know the Republicans would prefer to face Bernie, but we should not be helping them with their propaganda!

[sheshe2]

39. Looks that way, doesn't it.

[seabeyond]

41. Hell ya they want the socialist, Sanders. Someone on DU yesterday was saying media picked on Sanders

calling him a Socialist.

I mean. Well.

If we are not even allowed to call him a socialist, after 4, 5 decades Sanders calling himself a socialist and more, what does that say about walking into GE.

[Dem2]

75. Go to /r/politics/hot and notice that around 50% of posts are right-wing sites promoting Bernie

This is absurd - I can't believe the hardcore Bernie supporters are unwittingly aligning themselves with libertarian wingnuts.

I suppose one shouldn't be surprised that those less experienced in politics tend to be more easily duped.

[seabeyond]

76. You think unwittingly? I think go after base, along with bagger and repug. From day one of the

campaign. That has been my position anyway. What I have seen. I think factually bared out.

[Dem2]

77. My kids and other family in that age range are very liberal

One buys in completely, others are more pragmatic (know that they will have to support Hillary for a better future.) I'm not sure exactly what you were getting at in your post, but I will agree that much of the internet generation doesn't really understand the difference between 'liberal' and 'libertarian'. Of course, most adults don't know what 'libertarian' actually means, so there's that.

[seabeyond]

80. Sanders base is white, middle/upper middle income, men. And youth. Libertarian, baggers are part.

I am cool with that and what it is. Sanders has declared for decades white, men have not been taken care of. That is his campaign. I know the entitled white youth collehe student was a part of the conversation too. Having so many around me.

[sufrommich]

19. That explains the lack of a link.nt

[seabeyond]

20. Libertarian endorsing Trump. I get not giving us a link. A bullshit title. Delete. Dishonest.

[caquillo]

23. Yes, dishonest subject title

The OP made it sound like Pelosi was not endorsing Hillary now or ever, but, in fact, she's not endorsing either Clinton or Sanders at this time -- just like Obama, Biden, Elizabeth Edwards, etc. Powerhouses such as this usually wait until the end of the primaries. Most likely Pelosi will throw her support behind Hillary, once she officially becomes the nominee.

[RKP5637]

35. Agree!!! n/t

[ChiciB1]

24. I'm Pretty Sure Bernie Shouldn't Get His Hopes Up...

Boxer not endorsing? Yeah, they've surely had a "little strategy meeting" and are wary if any backlash. JMHO!

Would LOVE TO EAT THESE WORDS!

[pdsimdars]

25. This doesn't sound like something to get overjoyed about. Lowenthal said it was to be

"strategic" to bring the party together. That is in no way saying they are for Bernie. I read it that they are for Clinton, but don't want to make the stupid mistakes that Boxer did when she tried to make the NV convention into a Hillary victory rally.
They're saying they want to be smart (about when they announce support for Hillary, I assume). I mean, when you represent California, how stupid do you have to be to select your candidate before your state has even voted. People would rightly see that as prejudicing the vote.

[ChiciB1]

32. WELL, Looks Like WE Just Said The Very Same Thing AT

the very same time! Been around a long time myself so have seen this before. The ONLY one I think who may not endorse is Warren. But not taking bets.

[apcalc]

30. She will. And so will Warren.

[Else You Are Mad]

37. Of course they will...

They don't want to find themselves on the Clinton's political shit list, they are politicians and don't want to lose their jobs.

[seabeyond]

44. Or, Sanders is just that bad of a candidate, and we all know it. You are right, none of us are that

stupid.

[Else You Are Mad]

45. If he is such a bad candidate...

Why has he won nearly half the state's and didn't drop out like O'Malley did?

[Fawke Em]

49. And why does he do better in the general election than Hillary?

[seabeyond]

58. He wins one base. There are more of us out there. Hence, winning the Popular vote. You know,

this is all very basic. Even 101.

[SidDithers]

31. Oh look, another Bernie supporter using a right-wing source to attack Hillary...

Prntly was founded in 2014 by Alex Portelli, a former libertarian candidate for Mayor, and now political activist. He has been involved with many aspects of the conservative movement, and has recently endorsed Donald Trump. As the blog section of Prntly expanded, the print side of the company took second stage, but was still providing help to candidates like Ben Carson in New Hampshire through beautiful printing supplies.

Fucking unbelievable.

Sid

[passiveporcupine]

89. How is the OP attacking Hillary

They aren't endorsing either candidate yet. They could go either way, depending on what happens in California.

That is NOT an attack on Hillary.

If you think that is an attack, no wonder everyone is so freaked out about a chair that was never thrown.

[SidDithers]

90. The article / headline are slanted to make Hillary look bad...

It's what the Right does.

And what the fringe Left is all to eager to lap up.

Sid

[passiveporcupine]

91. I didn't even care what the headline was. I read the text of the article posted in the OP

and saw nothing to indicate at Attack. The user may consider it "fun" to use that headline. I think it's silly. So the headline may be an "attack", but not the content that was posted...and being there was no link, I couldn't go read the rest of it at the source to see if the headline there matched, or if there was something negative in the article itself.

On the grounds of what I see, I don't see an attack.

Even if Hillary campaign is upset over not getting these endorsements now, I don't see that as an attack.

Again...chair not thrown is not at attack.

[Fawke Em]

36. This is the way it should be.

Let your people vote and then represent them.

How hard is this?

[seabeyond]

48. I have not seen one OP of any Sanders supporter state when one of the few support Sanders that they

did something wrong. There have only been a few. Every time I see a cheer for an endorsement. As they should. With a thank you, for supporting. There is nothing wrong with endorsing ahead, or waiting. Choices. Both fine.

You know it, I know it. Hence never seeing a Sanders supporter suggesting Sanders endorsements, should have waiting.

[Fawke Em]

53. I was speaking of Super Delegates. At least Nancy isn't one who decided before we

even started voting.

[seabeyond]

61. Ahhh, man, hard to follow all the rules. So, you guys have no Super Delegates?

No one has endorsed Sanders out loud?

Regardless who you were talking about, my first post stands.

[Cali_Democrat]

64. So you think Alan Grayson should endorse Hillary? nt

[Aerows]

51. Hillary has burned too many bridges.

She has no favors left to exploit at this point.

[JoePhilly]

52. Bernie supporters will be tossing Nancy under the bus soon enough.

[BillZBubb]

83. Not if she endorses after the CA primary.

[Renew Deal]

55. Pelosi is one of the wealthiest members of congress

And she doesn't want the Sanders supporters to notice.

[Prism]

59. Pelosi's constituency is the Bay Area

The Bay area is very strongly pro-Bernie.

She didn't want a shitstorm in her own back yard.

It's politically prudent for her. After California, the contest will be all done, and then she can go ahead and say, "All right, let's go with who we have."

Would that Boxer had exhibited the same common sense and political acumen.

[LiberalFighter]

66. The article is bull. Whoever wrote it is on bad meds.

[Dem2]

68. It's a Trump supporting libertarian wingnut site

See posts above yours for more info.

[Dem2]

74. So you are all for a Trump endorsing libertarian wingnut site?

Really?

[shanti]

78. jerry brown hasn't endorsed anyone either

which i find strange...but he is rather quirky. my representative, ami bera, HAS endorsed hillary, but i'm pretty disappointed in him overall, so he did not get my vote, i just left it blank this time.

[bklyncowgirl]

88. There's lots of bad blood between Brown and the Clintons.

Bill & Hill ratfucked Brown big time in the 92 NY primary. The novel "Primary Colors" was based on that episode. People were calling in to the NY talk shows saying that they had personal knowledge that Brown was gay. The worst was when some anonymous CA State Troopers came forward alleging that Brown had turned a blind eye to recreational drug use by former girlfriend Linda Ronstadt and her friends and may have indulged himself while in office.

[runaway hero]

85. Pelosi and Clinton have never been friends

Don't know why this is not a surprise.