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RealAmericanDem

(221 posts)
Sat May 21, 2016, 01:30 PM May 2016

The election was rigged.

I have a lot of repub employees who were strong Romney supporters back in '12.

The day after the elections every single one of them told me the election was "rigged".

I just smiled thinking "whatever delusion you need to get through the day is fine."

Many Bernie supporters (including one of my own sons) remind me of those Romney voters after the election.

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The election was rigged. (Original Post) RealAmericanDem May 2016 OP
Stop being naive. smiley May 2016 #1
The vast majority of rigged elections claims have no merit. Zynx May 2016 #5
You are 100% right!!! DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #2
I remember RWNJ's citing those polls all the time. RealAmericanDem May 2016 #11
At first he admitted his unskewing had failed. It was only after the passage of some time ... DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #13
In a democratic society, people who believe in democracy, small d alcibiades_mystery May 2016 #3
Kudos DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #4
Maybe the voters were just wrong! Arneoker May 2016 #16
I see your agenda. Especially with that name. Mine is to put you on Ignore. nt valerief May 2016 #6
Attention: Hillbot no. 7! Hillbot no. 7! Depaysement May 2016 #7
So it is your contention, then, that powerful people with near-infinite access to money... Shandris May 2016 #8
They aren't all-powerful Arneoker May 2016 #17
Let's see. Implied ad hominem, check. False inference to something I allegedly said, check. Shandris May 2016 #19
So that means the results of 2000 and 2004 were just peachy, too? reformist2 May 2016 #9
In my opinion no Arneoker May 2016 #18
Devotion and delusion often go hand in hand. barrow-wight May 2016 #10
What a steaming pile of bullshit. 99Forever May 2016 #12
That's an amazing name you picked yuiyoshida May 2016 #14
Denial is the first phase...it will get better. anotherproletariat May 2016 #15
What does "rigged" mean? I don't think there was any significant election fraud, Vattel May 2016 #20

Zynx

(21,328 posts)
5. The vast majority of rigged elections claims have no merit.
Sat May 21, 2016, 01:43 PM
May 2016

People who can't emotionally handle the idea that most people don't agree with them, however, that's very common thing.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
2. You are 100% right!!!
Sat May 21, 2016, 01:35 PM
May 2016
'Unskewed Polls' Founder: 'I Was Only Wrong' Because I Didn't Consider Voter Fraud



The conservative activist who gained a following during last year's campaign for his efforts to "unskew" polls has a theory on why his predictions for the election were so wildly off the mark, writing late last month that his analysis was incomplete because he did not consider the purported voter fraud and voter suppression efforts that he claimed were integral to President Barack Obama's victory.

Dean Chambers, the founder of UnSkewedPolls.com, wrote in a piece on Examiner.com that the "Obama Regime definitely won the election" by suppressing votes from would-be supporters of Mitt Romney and committing "massive voter fraud in the key swing states" – although he offered no evidence for either claim.

"I was only wrong in those projections because I was not aware nor did I calculate in the voter fraud and the voter suppression, both of which exceeded the margin by which Barack Obama was declared the winner of that election last Fall," Chambers wrote.

It wasn't the first time Chambers floated such a theory. Shortly after last year's election, he launched a new website — BarackOFraudo.com — in which he alleged that the President did not legitimately carry Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Florida. That website included a map (shown below) with the disputed states colored black.


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/unskewed-polls-founder-i-was-only-wrong-because-i-didn-t-consider-voter-fraud



The sad thing is everybody here thought he was a nut.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
13. At first he admitted his unskewing had failed. It was only after the passage of some time ...
Sat May 21, 2016, 04:51 PM
May 2016

At first he admitted his unskewing had failed. It was only after the passage of some time he admitted Romney because of fraud.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
3. In a democratic society, people who believe in democracy, small d
Sat May 21, 2016, 01:37 PM
May 2016

understand that they sometimes lose elections. Maybe the other party had a better line of argument, or economic conditions favored their case. Maybe it was demographic or structural this year. Maybe the other candidate had advantages of incumbency or name recognition. A million reasons for losing elections. Adults also know that all elections have small, non-determinative irregularities and inconsistencies, because elections are structurally messy and difficult affairs to organize. We accept that gathering the opinions of a million people is bound to have some small errors, if we're adults.

The immediate reversion to conspiracy thinking, the refusal to accept election results, the exaggeration of small, non-determinative irregularities into massive conspiracies. These are all traits of fascism.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
4. Kudos
Sat May 21, 2016, 01:40 PM
May 2016
The immediate reversion to conspiracy thinking, the refusal to accept election results, the exaggeration of small, non-determinative irregularities into massive conspiracies. These are all traits of fascism.





Arneoker

(375 posts)
16. Maybe the voters were just wrong!
Sat May 21, 2016, 06:39 PM
May 2016

That's why I think Bush beat Kerry in 2004. But I never bought the conspiracy theories that Bush stole the election.

Depaysement

(1,835 posts)
7. Attention: Hillbot no. 7! Hillbot no. 7!
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:12 PM
May 2016

There is a Bernie supporter at welovecalifornia.com who needs re-education! Move immediately to that location!

 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
8. So it is your contention, then, that powerful people with near-infinite access to money...
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:13 PM
May 2016

...have no desire, intent, or benefit to gain from remaining in power, controlling the outcomes of elections within parameters, or in not competing perfectly fairly?

I didn't realize second graders were so eloquent these days.

Arneoker

(375 posts)
17. They aren't all-powerful
Sat May 21, 2016, 06:41 PM
May 2016

Well maybe they are in certain TV shows that I like to watch, but then I can tell fiction from reality.

 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
19. Let's see. Implied ad hominem, check. False inference to something I allegedly said, check.
Sat May 21, 2016, 06:54 PM
May 2016

Hope it was a good dime. Enjoy a piece of Bazooka bubblegum or something.

Arneoker

(375 posts)
18. In my opinion no
Sat May 21, 2016, 06:46 PM
May 2016

But that doesn't mean that they were stolen.

Well 2000 was a special case. It was close, and there wasn't much confidence that the tally in Florida was accurate. There is a very plausible case that Gore should have been awarded that State. The Bushies sure were anxious to close down that line of inquiry.

In 2004 the voters just made the wrong choice. Sometimes you just have to accept that.

I'm old enough to remember 1980. Was that stolen? Do I think the results were just peachy? No to the first, and HELL NO to the second.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
14. That's an amazing name you picked
Sat May 21, 2016, 06:34 PM
May 2016

Low count poster ...hmmm.. Guess I will move on, as I already know this is another
flame bait post.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
20. What does "rigged" mean? I don't think there was any significant election fraud,
Sat May 21, 2016, 06:54 PM
May 2016

but the primary system is unfair.

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