Sanders supporters are greedy parasites.

[cali]

They only donate to Sanders 'coz they expect freebies.


So sayeth wingnuts and Hillary's intrepid supporters.

Alternately, Evil Bernie is bleeding poor supporters dry and deceiving them.

I wish I had a dime for each time I've seen a supposed liberal parrot that crap.

I'd donate it to Bernie.

Now I'm off to donate another $100.

Thanks for the motivation.

[YouDig]

1. True dat.

[cali]

2. You are actually calling me a greedy parasite?

Do clarify.

[YouDig]

3. No.

[Luminous Animal]

7. Then what does your previous post mean?

[YouDig]

9. It means "true dat". I don't know anything about "cali" specifically.

[cali]

13. You agreed that Sanders supporters are greedy parasites. I am a a Sanders supporter, ergo

you were indeed saying that.

[YouDig]

16. Don't know you personally. Every silver lining has a touch of grey. Maybe it's you.

[cali]

19. What are you babbling about?

I suppose you could call me a moocher as I live off a trust fund. You can probably deduce from that that I'm not supporting Sanders for "freebies".

Frankly, I find the new money greed of hillary and Bill declasse. Tacky.

[YouDig]

24. Jerry Garcia, yo! You say you're a trust funder for Sanders? Not the only one for sure.

Did the people yelling "bitch" in Nevada look like poverty-stricken to you? No. They were just disappointed that Phish didn't show up.

[cali]

28. Lame.

Still not sure what Jerry Garcia has to do with anything. Never was either a big dead fan or a phish fan, but whatever.

[YouDig]

29. Bernie's a Phish fan! I'm talking old school Phish. Yanked on my tunic and dangled my stash!

You know they're from Burlington, right? Tell me this isn't great! I dare you.

[Warren DeMontague]

51. Hippie punching, how original.

The Neil Diamond crowd wants to lecture about musical relevance, again?

[YouDig]

62. WTF? I like Phish. Did I punch myself?

[Warren DeMontague]

63. Do you, now.

Find me a good 30 minute YEM and we'll talk.

Personally I respect their considerable musical ability but I'm only lukewarm on them. Seen them maybe 10 times, starting in 1990 in a bar with about 200 people. (That one was fun)

I will say this, if the best you could come up with for the Dead was the studio version of touch of grey, you're not that much of a deadhead.

(and yes, that should be "stop" not "step&quot

[YouDig]

69. I'm not a true deadhead, you're right Touch of Grey was a giveaway.

True deadheads scoff at Touch of Grey, and their studio stuff in general. They like to argue for hours about which version of Dark Star is the greatest ever.

What can I say, I like some of their live stuff, and I like some of their dreaded studio recordings, but never got super into the Jerry Garcia playing a 2 hour solo thing. I know plenty people who are, that's just me, and whatever that makes me is what I am.

[Warren DeMontague]

70. Touch of Grey is a great fucking song.

I was there when it exemplified perfectly Jerry coming back from his coma. The energy was thick and electric and unmistakable.


But the catalog goes a lot deeper than that.

Greatest version of Dark Star- easy. 11/11/73.

At least, that's the one I like best right now.

[YouDig]

71. Ha! The greatest version of Dark Star on tap!

You'd get along great with some people I know! Me too probably, but my Dead knowledge (lack of) would stick out.

[Warren DeMontague]

74. it really is a good one, if you get in the right frame of mind, relax, and enjoy it.

[Warren DeMontague]

53. I know it's frustrating, but don't feel bad, pappy.

With enough cialis, little frampton may even come alive again, one day.

[aidbo]

65. Lol. "Do you feel like I feel?"

[Warren DeMontague]

67. I feel like I'm 8, and someone is fucking dressing me in corduroy bellbottoms again.

[Scootaloo]

76. Nor do you know me. I will wager you know very few people, indeed

[Aerows]

56. It pisses me off

to hear "true dat" from a Yankee mouth, cher.

You win most annoying poster of the day.

[Cali_Democrat]

4. You're donating another $100 to Bernie?

[cali]

11. Why not? He'll need to retire his debt. You do realize that Hillary

solicited money in 2008 when she was 200 delegates behind Obama and clearly wasn't going to win, right? Did you think those donating to her were crazy and throwing their money away?

And no, I don't expect an honest response from you.

In case you're "concerned", yes I can easily afford it.

[Txbluedog]

18. Why only $100?

Why not more?

[cali]

21. I've donated more. This is my 7th or 8th donation.

[LiberalFighter]

38. When was Clinton behind by 200 delegates in 2008?

[Bluenorthwest]

41. Clinton ended 08 with millions of debt, fundraising was done to pay that debt after she'd lost and

Obama was seated in office. That's how our dubious campaign finance system works.

[LiberalFighter]

42. That has nothing to do with the question asked.

[SFnomad]

45. Secretary Clinton was NEVER 200 delegates (or more) behind Obama

Never even close to 200 delegates behind ... so don't let facts get in the way of your rant

[cali]

52. You're right. It was around 160

My mistake. I read it in one of the old threads and didn't verify it.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/04/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-drop-out-election

[moriah]

80. I don't ever recall her being that far behind delegate-wise, but my only objection....

... to donating between June 14th and November to Bernie if he's not the nominee, is that even if you want to help with his debt and have no intention of donating to Hillary if she is the nominee, that money could be used for downticket races.

But your money, your vote, your choice. And the primary isn't over yet.

[Luminous Animal]

5. I just donated. Thanks Cali for the post.

[notadmblnd]

6. Well if I'm giving him money, then what I expect in the long run isn't exactly free

And yeah, I'll be sending Sanders some more money in a few days.

[Luminous Animal]

8. I just donated through the DU Act Blue page. DUers have donated around $75,000

[notadmblnd]

10. I've donated through that link 3 prior times

and I'll use it again next time I donate.

[snowy owl]

35. Didn't know about DU Act Blue. I just send checks. Want it to go to campaign.

sometimes organizations take a percentage - I know Act Blue asks for tip. I prefer sending to candidate and have to several directly.

[joshcryer]

12. I'm done donating this cycle.

[pmorlan1]

15. That's OK

My increased donations going into the latter part of the campaign will help cover it.

[joshcryer]

17. I mean for the GE, local races, etc.

Let the oligarchs spend their money, ain't wasting mine when it has little influence. At least with Sanders there was a shot, long though it may have been.

[pmorlan1]

23. If Hillary is the nominee

I won't donate a penny. But I will donate to Sanders as long as he is in the race.

[cali]

25. I won't donate a red cent to her

[joshcryer]

27. She'll get my vote, nothing more.

Unless something happens to Trump and the GOP pick a more credible candidate, my summer and fall is going to be spent lazing about.

[haikugal]

57. She won't even get that from me.

[840high]

81. Not even that from me. For sure.

[Scuba]

14. And at the same time, Goldman-Sachs and the health insurers expect nothing from Hillary.

They're just altruistic, is all. Yeah, that's it.








.

[Txbluedog]

20. Are you saying Bernie's donors expect nothing in return?

[cali]

22. I expect quite a bit from my Senator

They don't happen to be material things.

[Ned_Devine]

78. You realize you're responding to someone that just signed up this week, right?

[Scuba]

26. They expect him to fight for the planet and the 99%.

Hillary's donors expect her to fight for the 1%.







See the difference?

[bvar22]

33. I cannot fathom how anybody who Works for a Living

can support Hillary.
Those dots do not connect.

I used to ridicule without mercy members Working Class who worked AGAINST their own financial interests by voting Republican. That was back when the Democratic Party actually supported the Working Class and acknowledged that there WERE Poor People in America.

My mother always warned me to never ridicule people because someday I will be standing in their shoes. Mom was right, because NOW, the Democratic Party wants ME to vote against my own financial interests by supporting Hillary.

[passiveporcupine]

54. This sums it up pretty well

[Karma13612]

86. +100 eom

[grossproffit]

30. My only hope is that those donating to any candidate can afford to do so.

[snowy owl]

39. Sometimes $$ spent on a dream-inspiration is worth it. Even a little bit helps-you feel voice heard.

Whether he makes it or not, I'm part of a righteous movement and maybe planted a seed that will grow into something greater. Not my expectation but I hope so.

[stillwaiting]

31. The vampire class are the parasites. And they know it too.

At least many of them do. They KNOW they are whittling the working and middle classes down to nothing for their own benefit.

Shame that people that are not IN the vampire class do not care enough about many of their friends, family, neighbors, even themselves sometimes to see that the propaganda narrative offered by the vampire class is utter tripe.

[Old Codger]

32. Better be true

I expect great access to the oval office for my 50 bucks you betcha..

[barrow-wight]

34. Yep.

[NCTraveler]

36. Well done. Sanders isn't that bad.

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Weaver on the other hand....

Still, your money will go to air progressive messages and he employees a number of people. The ones I somewhat giggle at are the ones left in an emotional rage after reading one of Weavers shady emails. But their money is green and goes to a solid progressive message as well.

[snowy owl]

40. I think Weaver is briliant. Calm and honest. Never riled.

So what's with the shady email comment?

[NCTraveler]

47. The ones that include the word "establishment"....

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No fewer that four times, "oligarch" once, "possible" or "questionable" a minimum of six times....

They are directed and I agree with you that they are brilliant. They get more out of self generated crisis than anyone.

[snowy owl]

79. So you think Bernie's campaign created "establishment?" Really? I think you're in a bubble. Really.

I've been using that since the nineties and when I delegated for Kucinich and voted Stein. Less than 60% of the electorate votes these days. Why? We want change. Real change. Weaver didn't invent, create or generate anything. Bernie in fact is piggy backing on what the people want. He recognizes it because he wants it too.

Bring back democracy. I'm tired of plutocracy/oligarchy which we might have to get used to because we've had it so long. It might be too late. Those words represent his candidacy. Parsing for points. That's all you are doing.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

88. So, no Establishment or Oligarchy exists ?

[JoePhilly]

37. More drama.

[cali]

44. As it's h you hill supporters saying this crap

you should blame them.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512021511

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

43. Whereas, Hillary's corporate supporters only expect a healthy return on their investments in her.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

89. Which, of course, the working class will foot the bill.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

90. As always. And, told that it's good for them. Adding insult to injury.

[Ferd Berfel]

46. So 2 things

I just received a letter from the DNC today (with my magic personal serial number on it) looking for money.
I will reply - no $$ included - with my explanation and a rant about DWS, her $300 loan shark buddies and rigged primaries

But it motivated me to send Bernie another $25

The DNC doesn't need my money, they have Wall Street

[AtomicKitten]

48. When they stop cheating, we'll stop having a problem with it.

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[-none]

61. ^^^This^^^

On a bumper sticker. With a Bernie Bird and most people will know immediately what it is all about. Or at least ask about it.

[MrMickeysMom]

49. I'm off to send another $50, cali...

I do this twice a month.

I need very little motivation to keep donating. I need some motivation at times to phone bank, but only because I'm so busy with anti fracking stuff in my state, and I still work.

[SidDithers]

50. Throwing good money after bad...

but it's your money.



Sid

[cali]

55. You realize that Hillary raised money after she could no longer win, right?

[vintx]

66. *crickets*

[cali]

72. Of course

[eastwestdem]

59. This is a great example of why DU is a good thing. Everytime I come on here I end up donating more

I maxed out my primary giving directly to Hillary's campaign, so I started to donate to http://prioritiesusaaction.org/

It's a good feeling.

[AirmensMom]

60. I would love to donate.

But we've been unemployed all year. If there were anything else we could live without, I'd gladly donate to Bernie! As soon as a job comes, I am donating for sure!

[vintx]

64. "supposed liberal" <-exactly

It would be some kind of a statistical anomaly if none of the HRC supporters here were the bought-and-paid-for kind.

[Uncle Joe]

68. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, cali.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

73. I want my freebies!

I want the Social Security I paid into for the past four decades. I don't want it tied to chained price indices, and I don't want it means-tested. Just give me my freebie.

And I can give a bit more to Sanders. I can't afford Hillary's price.

[silvershadow]

75. Awesome! That you! :D nt

[Ned_Devine]

77. Apparently the first 4 posters are HRC supporters

But I wouldn't know because with so many of them on ignore, I can't see the stupid shit they spew all the fucking time every single goddam day making this place completely unbearable!

[840high]

82. True Dat.

[MFM008]

83. I sure couldn't afford 100$

Im afraid it cuts into food money. All I have is a vote.

[Recursion]

84. Honestly that's deflecting from the actually kind of meaningful charge of parasitism

which is that Sanders has piggybacked on a party he has repeatedly said he doesn't respect or particularly want to be a part of, to give his Presidential run a better chance, and in return has kicked that party in the teeth.

The worst part of that? He's still the better option...

[cali]

85. No, it's Hillary supporters saying that Bernie supporters want

freebies at the cost of of others

[MyNameGoesHere]

87. They do not want free stuff.

They fully expect someone to pay for it.

[Waiting For Everyman]

91. I personally, stand to gain nothing from Sanders' proposals.

But I can recognize that they would benefit others quite a bit.

It's called "quality of life". We used to have it for most people.

The "greedy parasites" are those who "got theirs" using our common resources, and now want to pull the ladder of opportunity up behind them.

They're only a big deal in their own minds, and they can fuck right off.