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joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
Sat May 21, 2016, 02:15 PM May 2016

Election model predicts Clinton over Trump (never been wrong in 35 years)

“President Obama’s approval rating has crossed over the important 50 percent threshold for the first time in almost four years,” said Dan White, a Moody’s economist who oversees the model.

Aside from rising gasoline prices, a drop in Obama’s approval rating is the only model variable that could possibly move far and fast enough to push the model in Republicans’ favor by November, White said.

“This sudden surge could be a result of the messy primary season or a relative lull in geopolitical news from overseas,” White said.

Moody’s latest model shows for the third straight month that the Democratic nominee would take 332 electoral votes compared with 206 for the Republican nominee. The model has predicted every election correctly since it was created in 1980.

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/economy/280761-moodys-election-model-sticks-with-democrats


This is my favorite model because of its simplicity. Do people like the president in power? Is the economy faring well? Is there relative peace? You win.
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Election model predicts Clinton over Trump (never been wrong in 35 years) (Original Post) joshcryer May 2016 OP
well, there ya go, we can cancel the primaries, the convention and the election lapfog_1 May 2016 #1
Oh man, no one said that. joshcryer May 2016 #3
it's a logical step lapfog_1 May 2016 #5
outside of death nothing is certain. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #6
The primary does far more than elect the nominee. joshcryer May 2016 #7
According to Hillary supporters - Hillary should write the entire platform lapfog_1 May 2016 #9
Your opinion about excitement is not a fact. Metric System May 2016 #12
I'm sure the clinton supporters will be excited. lapfog_1 May 2016 #21
OK Done deal. We can save a lot of money! oldandhappy May 2016 #2
It says Democrat over Republican... k8conant May 2016 #4
Obama recently just broke 50 favorable. joshcryer May 2016 #8
Great we can start planning a new war now. bahrbearian May 2016 #10
Well. The Hill posted an article favorable to Hillary Clinton Benitos May 2016 #11
It's Moody's election model. joshcryer May 2016 #13
The only possibility of a Trump victory is an Oct. Surprise terrorist attack JCMach1 May 2016 #14
I would tend to agree. joshcryer May 2016 #16
But still... let me don my tinfoil for a minute and say MIHOP JCMach1 May 2016 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #15
So we're supposed to believe in models now, but not polls. Got it. reformist2 May 2016 #17
Well of course the model constraints must hold. joshcryer May 2016 #18
I believe the polls. Voters are way more informed than they used to be at this point in the cycle. reformist2 May 2016 #23
Which ones? joshcryer May 2016 #24
There's a first time for everything. Punkingal May 2016 #20
Surprised this wasn't the first reply. joshcryer May 2016 #22
I always feel that way about streaks....nothing personal in my reply. Punkingal May 2016 #25
The model is pretty dumb, though. joshcryer May 2016 #27
Add to that the GOP hasn't taken the Whiyte House since 1980 without a Bush on the ticket. pressbox69 May 2016 #26
Plus the fact Bush/Cheney happened. Rex May 2016 #28
What if she's not the nominee? What if the FBI messes things up? Was Obama under FBI pdsimdars May 2016 #29
Whatever makes you feel better. joshcryer May 2016 #30
We shall certainly see. pdsimdars May 2016 #31
i enjoy you, joshcryer. writes3000 May 2016 #32
Kick. joshcryer May 2016 #33
well thank goodness because I remember president gore well timmymoff May 2016 #34

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
1. well, there ya go, we can cancel the primaries, the convention and the election
Sat May 21, 2016, 02:27 PM
May 2016

and Obama can start his retirement tomorrow

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
5. it's a logical step
Sat May 21, 2016, 02:37 PM
May 2016

since this poll has never been wrong...

Why continue with a lame duck President when the outcome of the primary, the convention and the election is so certain...

unless, of course, it isn't that certain.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
7. The primary does far more than elect the nominee.
Sat May 21, 2016, 02:41 PM
May 2016

It creates the platform, brings in new political activists, broadens the base, and excites the party at the convention.

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
9. According to Hillary supporters - Hillary should write the entire platform
Sat May 21, 2016, 02:44 PM
May 2016

as for excitement? Seriously? There is NO excitement for this convention if Bernie isn't there.

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
21. I'm sure the clinton supporters will be excited.
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:17 PM
May 2016

but they are a small minority of the general populace.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
8. Obama recently just broke 50 favorable.
Sat May 21, 2016, 02:42 PM
May 2016

But they've been posting this monthly, what's interesting is how big of a landslide it's looking to be.

JCMach1

(27,556 posts)
14. The only possibility of a Trump victory is an Oct. Surprise terrorist attack
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:08 PM
May 2016

I have said that for months.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
16. I would tend to agree.
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:11 PM
May 2016

And not some lone idiots but something significant like Paris or London or 9/11.

Fortunately Obama is in charge and actually reads his Intel memos.

JCMach1

(27,556 posts)
19. But still... let me don my tinfoil for a minute and say MIHOP
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:14 PM
May 2016


So, do I completely trust the situation... no.

Response to joshcryer (Original post)

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
18. Well of course the model constraints must hold.
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:14 PM
May 2016

And it should be taken lightly this far out, a lot of things can happen to flip the model.

It's still encouraging.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
23. I believe the polls. Voters are way more informed than they used to be at this point in the cycle.
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:18 PM
May 2016

Time was people didn't start paying attention until August, or even after Labor Day. But with Bernie and The Donald making this year so interesting, I think a lot of people are paying attention - and are already making their minds up.

pressbox69

(2,252 posts)
26. Add to that the GOP hasn't taken the Whiyte House since 1980 without a Bush on the ticket.
Sat May 21, 2016, 06:23 PM
May 2016

you can look it up.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
29. What if she's not the nominee? What if the FBI messes things up? Was Obama under FBI
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:03 PM
May 2016

investigation?
Did Obama have the lowest favorability in Democratic History?




I don't think that model doesn't mean much in this situation.


Here's the latest heads up. She just slipped lower.


 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
34. well thank goodness because I remember president gore well
Sun May 22, 2016, 05:18 AM
May 2016

likable president, good economy, relative peace...hmmmmm. His two terms were awesome.

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