2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumEugene Robinson: Bernie's "crowds are almost as big as Trump's and perhaps more enthusiastic." Huh?
Almost as big. ????!!!!!
Perhaps more enthusiastic !!!!????
What in the world made you reach those conclusions Eugene? Perhaps you've been paying too much uncritical attention to Trump's bombastic claims and propaganda blasts!
In Utah over 14,000 people turned out to hear Obama. Fewer than 1,000 showed up at a Trump rally. And Utah is one of the most conservative states in the nation!
Trump Rally Salt Lake City,Utah
Sanders Rally Salt Lake City,Utah
brooklynite
(94,520 posts)Pulling ONE picture from ONE Trump rally isn't a fair comparison, and denying that Trump isn;t getting large turnout isn't realistic.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)That Trump is drawing bigger crowds than Bernie!!!!
And are you also claiming that Trump drew a much bigger crowd than Bernie in Salt Lake City? Pictures please!
Thanks for the info!
Do you have anymore fun facts you'd like to share with us?
brooklynite
(94,520 posts)tritsofme
(17,377 posts)Trump is particularly toxic in Utah and among Mormons, I think he came in third of fourth place in that primary. Seems like a bad place to start drawing comparisons.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)brooklynite
(94,520 posts)...I must ask, WHY do Sanders keep fixating on rally size as such an important measure? It clearly hasn't helped with turnout.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)nt
brooklynite
(94,520 posts)If I'm going to work to deny Trump the election, it's smart to be aware of what his strengths are. One of the weaknesses of the campaigning by the Sanders supporters was, in my opinion, their unwillingness to acknowledge that Democrats actually wanted to vote for Clinton, and campaigning accordingly, rather than dismissing her strengths by (for example) focusing on how much smaller here crowds were.
snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)Txbluedog
(1,128 posts)Explain to me why this doesn't happen for Bernie?
bahrbearian
(13,466 posts)bahrbearian
(13,466 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)---Money and Comcast control will do that to you.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Larger vote count. Hillary has smaller groups and larger vote count, think I will stay with the smaller groups and get the votes.
pmorlan1
(2,096 posts)Yes that is the meme we've seen to try to explain this away but I find it quite odd.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)the people want representation in a democracy. The meritocracy has run it's course--it is harming America and the Earth.