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Mustellus

(328 posts)
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:37 PM May 2016

Those who cannot vote for her if she is the nominee.....

.... can still die as a draftee in Trump's Greatness Wars.

I'm 67 years old, served during Vietnam.... and it won't be me going. The draft is still there, and the BS I hear in the gym locker room and at work is simple.

American Greatness ... equals ... victory in war(s).

Run down the list of places Trump has already threatened. And not with libel suits.

Watch him jump to conclusions about an airliner crash.

When Cameron called the deportation policy 'stupid', Trumps response was I'm not stupid!. The man cannot separate his ego from normal political opposition.

Be ready. Hup Two Three Four .... Booo-Rahhhh.

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SwampG8r

(10,287 posts)
3. Or they can die in hillaries.wars.
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:54 PM
May 2016

I don't see how he's more of a hawk than her is even believable as far as I know he's never sent anyone into Harm's Way so far Trump is a giant douche bag but at least he's never got himself involved in Wars to enrich his buddies yet

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
5. Or they can die in Hillary's regime-change wars. Take yer pick.
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:58 PM
May 2016

Run down the list of places where Hillary has actually inflicted bloodshed and death on. She has Kissinger as a mentor, FFS.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/25/1491609/-Robert-Kagan-Republican-Neocon-PNAC-co-founder-endorses-Clinton

The connection between Hillary and the extreme right Republican Neocons became much clearer today when Robert Kagan, a co-founder and co-author of “The Project for the New American Century, endorsed Hillary Clinton for President.

I would be tempted to call his endorsement a dirty trick designed to drive Democrats away from HRC, but the closeness between them has gone on for many years. Therefore, I think this is just a neocon effort to co-opt the Democratic party. I’m sure they believe it would be better for their desires if they own both parties, not just the Republicans.

...

We need to remember that Robert Kagan’s wife is Victoria Nuland. Nuland had been a foreign policy adviser to VP Dick Cheney. When Obama was elected and named Clinton as Secretary of State, HRC brought Victoria Nuland into the State Department. Originally serving as an information official conducting press sessions for State, Nuland soon transitioned to Assistant Secretary of State for Eurasian Affairs. From this post, Nuland planned, orchestrated, and directed the disastrous coup in Ukraine.

This shows us that we can expect more turmoil, warring, and regime change in the Middle East, Eurasia, and around the world. I find this to be extremely frightening.


Hillary also said that the airliner crash looked like terrorism to her.

This is one of those six of one, half a dozen of the other things; I am afraid of them both.
 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
6. Too old to be drafted.
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:59 PM
May 2016

There won't be a draft and imo Hillary would be more likely to start a war than Trump.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
8. Robert Kagan and Henry Kissinger support HRC.
Sat May 21, 2016, 04:43 PM
May 2016

Robert Kagan is a FATHER of the neoconservative movement.

Do you know what neoconservatives like?

War. Lots of it. Multiple theaters of war at any one point in time.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
10. Sorry, but that's one of the very few areas that Trump bothers me less.
Sat May 21, 2016, 05:12 PM
May 2016

Sure, I could see him getting us into war, thinking (in his unsophisticated way) that such a response to the sorts of international provocations every president encounters is called for. Do I think that to be particularly likely? Not really.

Despite his cartoonish outbursts, I don't think Trump is so much of a megalomaniac/narcissist that he won't be listening to the host of advisers and subject matter experts all presidents are surrounded with. There's a big difference between spouting from behind a lectern on the campaign trail and sitting at a big table with all the folk involved in decisions of that import and actually saying "launch the strikes."

Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, has a record of actual warmongering...not speculation based on political rhetoric. Just saying...

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
13. So you're ok with Blue Dog Wars?
Sat May 21, 2016, 05:36 PM
May 2016

Because that's what we'll get with Hillary- pandering to the social liberals with all the regressive economics and hawkishness of a Republican.

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