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portlander23

(2,078 posts)
Sat May 21, 2016, 04:15 PM May 2016

Will Hillary Clinton’s Plan to Have Her Husband Fix the Economy Hurt Her at the Polls?

Will Hillary Clinton’s Plan to Have Her Husband Fix the Economy Hurt Her at the Polls?
Emma Niles
TruthDig

Hillary Clinton is dishing out details on how her potential administration would function—and apparently, it includes a lot of help from her husband, former President Bill Clinton.

“Aides said Mr. Clinton’s role would be narrowly defined to focus on hard-hit areas of the country, such as the Rust Belt, and they rejected any implication that Mrs. Clinton would outsource a central part of her administration to her spouse,” writes The New York Times, although it adds that her declaration “raised questions about how such an arrangement would work in a White House that has long relied on an appointed Treasury secretary and National Economic Council.”

So although Hillary’s campaign is heavily depending on her husband’s legacy to woo the votes of working-class whites (a group she has not done well with), the intense scrutiny of Bill’s economic record may not help her campaign in the way she hopes.

In a piece published Friday by The Guardian, Thomas Frank summed up the danger of 1990s nostalgia. “Look at where we are now: soaring inequality, a recovery that never seems to come, a fraying middle class, a furious public, and improbable protest candidates drawing millions of votes,” he writes. “But all of it is as nothing, I suppose, when compared to the golden allure of the past.”


Everyone should read Thomas Frank's new book.



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Will Hillary Clinton’s Plan to Have Her Husband Fix the Economy Hurt Her at the Polls? (Original Post) portlander23 May 2016 OP
No. Most people have fond memories of the economy under Bill Clinton (nt) Nye Bevan May 2016 #1
Most people? I think not. A few do. Voice for Peace May 2016 #9
If Bill could somehow run this year, he'd almost certainly win (nt) Nye Bevan May 2016 #10
Using your imagination poorly... Voice for Peace May 2016 #13
No he wouldn't. NWCorona May 2016 #17
Alan Greenspan AgingAmerican May 2016 #11
It will cause Trump to win the GE IMO. n/t RKP5637 May 2016 #2
Trumpy will be more than happy to remind voters. nc4bo May 2016 #3
And he will use it to the fullest extent. We're not in Bill's years now. IMO the ballgame has RKP5637 May 2016 #7
Probably not. He is more popular in the polls than either Hillary or Trump, whether pampango May 2016 #4
Why should it? The majority of people remember the Clinton years as those of peace, prosperity and SFnomad May 2016 #5
The 1990s were great for me...the Bush admin, not so much anigbrowl May 2016 #6
The question is what percentage of the people will think the two events you mention are connected? Cal33 May 2016 #18
It could very well work in her favor. Arkansas Granny May 2016 #8
By signing NAFTA and the repeal of FDR's Glass-Stegall Act Califonz May 2016 #12
Why don't the Clinton posters on this thread mention NAFTA? That Guy 888 May 2016 #14
It should ibegurpard May 2016 #15
Bill is trying to blame low wages on the recession. passiveporcupine May 2016 #16
The fact that Hillary said she would cede control over the economy to someone else will NWCorona May 2016 #19

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
3. Trumpy will be more than happy to remind voters.
Sat May 21, 2016, 04:19 PM
May 2016

It'll be more of a turn off than having garlic breath on your wedding day.

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
7. And he will use it to the fullest extent. We're not in Bill's years now. IMO the ballgame has
Sat May 21, 2016, 04:23 PM
May 2016

totally changed. I was literally shocked when I heard that. Also, IMO, it weakens her greatly, makes it look like she is the front for another term for Bill.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
4. Probably not. He is more popular in the polls than either Hillary or Trump, whether
Sat May 21, 2016, 04:20 PM
May 2016

that is deserved or not.

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
5. Why should it? The majority of people remember the Clinton years as those of peace, prosperity and
Sat May 21, 2016, 04:20 PM
May 2016

a balanced budget. Which one of those did you hate the most?

 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
6. The 1990s were great for me...the Bush admin, not so much
Sat May 21, 2016, 04:20 PM
May 2016

There were flaws with the Clinton economic model but let's not forget the worst recession since the 1930s that came afterwards.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
18. The question is what percentage of the people will think the two events you mention are connected?
Sat May 21, 2016, 06:07 PM
May 2016

They happened under different presidents, so, many do think that the events had different causes.

 

Califonz

(465 posts)
12. By signing NAFTA and the repeal of FDR's Glass-Stegall Act
Sat May 21, 2016, 04:41 PM
May 2016

The Clintons threw the working class under the bus. They only fixed the economy for the 1%.

Their current bank account balance indicates they were handsomely rewarded for their service to plutocracy.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-15/nafta-20-years-old-%E2%80%93-here-are-20-facts-show-how-it-destroying-economy

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
14. Why don't the Clinton posters on this thread mention NAFTA?
Sat May 21, 2016, 05:15 PM
May 2016

You guys need to start putting lipstick on that pig now*! Convince the rest of us that it was a glorious revolution that made those smelly polluting industries go far away, leaving only nice, clean white collar jobs behind. ...And fast food jobs, there has been an increase in the average age of fast food employees. Oh, oh, and "on demand" jobs. It's wonderful to have all that extra time off, wondering how you will pay those bills that don't stop when the work does.















*For the Clintonian Thought Police, a head start to your inevitable claim of sexism.

To put "lipstick on a pig" is a rhetorical expression, used to convey the message that making superficial or cosmetic changes is a futile attempt to disguise the true nature of a product.


from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipstick_on_a_pig my own familiarity with this phrase comes from friends and/or relatives in the financial sector.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
15. It should
Sat May 21, 2016, 05:22 PM
May 2016

Many of Clinton's triangulating third-way policies are at the root of the decline of the working and middle classes and thus the Democratic Party.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
16. Bill is trying to blame low wages on the recession.
Sat May 21, 2016, 05:55 PM
May 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=111&v=FLUpcmUoAmo

Instead of crushed unions and off shored jobs replaced with service jobs and the new competitive wages (competitive with 3rd world countries) we've been finding at home.

If this is really what he will be bringing us if Hillary puts him in charge of our economic recovery...we are in deep shit.

Yes, if Bill...I mean Hillary wins this election, we will be right back where we were with Bill as potus. Some people did well under him...those are the ones supporting Hillary today. But the middle class did not, and the poor did not. And he wants to keep on doing the same shit and expecting different results? No, in fact he really liked the results...because look at how he and Hillary embrace their new wealth. Yes, the wealthy did well under Clinton, and will likely do so again...while the rest of us just keep slip sliding away.

And he's trying to blame Obama for our slow recovery and wage losses. So much for building on what Obama has done. There goes Obama under the bus.

My God how stupid can this country be?

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
19. The fact that Hillary said she would cede control over the economy to someone else will
Sat May 21, 2016, 06:10 PM
May 2016

Hurt her but probably not much.

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