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cali

(114,904 posts)
Sat May 21, 2016, 11:27 PM May 2016

Short memories. Hillary said far worse things about Obama in 2008 than anything

Bernie has said about Hillary. And her campaign and surrogates were even worse. Who could forget her attacking Obama for his supposed ties to Hamas? How about her saying she doesn't know if he's a Christian, or the picture her campaign sent out of Obama in traditional Somalian dress? Or Bill's comment about how a few years ago Obama would have been carrying their bags. And on and fucking on.

Also, her campaign has tried to smear Bernie as racist and sexist from the get go.

The indignation over Bernie is hypocrisy writ large in neon.

Unable to find much that Barack Obama himself has said or believes that is particularly alien to the thinking and values of most Americans, Hillary Clinton and her supporters in the media have chosen instead to engage in a campaign of guilt-by-association.

Not surprisingly, right-wing media pundits and prominent Republicans have thrown their weight behind Clinton's efforts, taken advantage of the New York senator's attacks to smear the likely Democratic presidential nominee. For example, North Carolina Republicans are readying a television ad on the eve of that state's primary which includes a photo of Obama and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright together, a video clip of Wright making incendiary comments, with a voiceover telling voters that Obama is "just too extreme for North Carolina."

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Indeed, Clinton has attacked what she has called the "activist base" of the Democratic Party, particularly MoveOn, which has been credited for bringing many millions of dollars into Democratic campaigns and thereby lessening the party's dependence on the corporate donors long favored by the Clintons. Blaming the group for many of her electoral defeats, she has complained of the way they have mobilized grass roots activists which have "flooded" state caucuses as a result of their ability to "turn out in great numbers." Emphasizing her differences with MoveOn's liberal positions on foreign policy and national security, she has tried to depict the group as far to the left, even resurrecting the long-discredited claim by Karl Rove that MoveOn opposed the war in Afghanistan.

Much more:
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2008/04/30/clinton-smear-campaign-against-obama


http://inthesetimes.com/article/18834/hillary-clinton-campaign-bernie-sanders-president-obama-attacks

http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/hillary-clinton-alleged-barack-obama-sold-access-big-donors-now-criticizes

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MisterP

(23,730 posts)
1. she hated MoveOn because they were against wars of choice: then they took over and hollowed it out
Sat May 21, 2016, 11:29 PM
May 2016

like Brock's New CREW

political taxidermy

merrily

(45,251 posts)
2. I supported Obama in 2008. I never forgot. I doubt many here did, either.
Sat May 21, 2016, 11:31 PM
May 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12777603

http://jackpineradicals.org/content.php?109-Democratic-Primary-2016-Will-religious-bigotry-work-this-time

The meme is that Obama forgave her--as if anyone know his mind--and therefore everyone should. Let's assume he forgave her, rather than keeping his end of whatever bargain they made at the end of the 2008 primary. Why does that require me to do the same? He may have gotten what he wanted from her, but I haven't. Are "racially-tinged" campaigns only about Obama? What about the 3 am phone call bit?


JI7

(89,247 posts)
3. the problem is many Sanders supporters hate Obama
Sat May 21, 2016, 11:34 PM
May 2016

It's not really about Sanders himself but many of his supporters hate Obama and attacked him throughout his presidency.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
6. Not nearly the hate spewed by hill fans in 2008.
Sat May 21, 2016, 11:38 PM
May 2016

Fuck revisionist history. Btw, I was an early supporter of Obama's, that doesn't mean that I mindlessly adored.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
11. I do not know one Sanders supporter that hates Obama. Not one.
Sun May 22, 2016, 01:20 AM
May 2016

Maybe some of us didn't like it when he put chained CPI on the table.
Or when he opened up drilling in the Artic (which thankfully never happened).
Or Keystone, TPP

But to say that we hate him? That we don't think overall he has been a great President is just wrong.

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
9. Here is a fact, bro.....
Sun May 22, 2016, 01:14 AM
May 2016

The adults in the room overcame their differences. They went on to do what was best for this Country.

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He has her back~



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SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
7. Another short memory problem:
Sat May 21, 2016, 11:43 PM
May 2016

The calls for Bernie to leave the race, as if Hillary Clinton ended her campaign before the final primary in 2008. She stayed in until the end, even when it was blindingly clear Obama would win.

It's not beyond the realm of possibility that Bernie will do extraordinarily well on June 7 and tie or even surpass her in pledged delegates.

 

NewImproved Deal

(534 posts)
14. "Or Bill's comment about how a few years ago Obama would have been carrying their bags..."
Sun May 22, 2016, 01:45 AM
May 2016

My, how the Clinton Machine loves that Black Vote.

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