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Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)other Sanders supporters (but somehow never themselves) voting for Trump. What does it say for the judgement of the Trump loving Sanders supporter?
lostnfound
(16,178 posts)If that's their only issue.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)lostnfound
(16,178 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)it tells me to walk....
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)WhiteTara
(29,706 posts)another republicon takes over the WH with majorities in the Senate, House and SCOTUS. Bread lines won't even be around. But principles will be upheld as we all sink in the muck of climate change and poverty and starvation. Guns will abound though.
lostnfound
(16,178 posts)Would take hold like kudzu. It's hard to know what such a basket case would be as head of state, but it's easy to imagine that it would lead to an attempt to try to return to white-man-rule for the economy.
Brownshirts
Abolition of diversity rules
Divisive culture
Speaking of divisive culture, I think my family might be headed toward open warfare at this election. The consequence of two wildly unpopular candidates. In 50s and 60s, siblings are so very angry that the other is supporting someone so reprehensible in their eyes. One sibling is a professional college-educated female, the other is a hardworking former technician-and-small-entrepreneur male that lost most of his life savings in a rigged stock market. Which one is supporting which?
WhiteTara
(29,706 posts)I'm sure your brother is in great pain. Is he supporting Trump? I don't find Bernie reprehensible, does she?
lostnfound
(16,178 posts)He's a lifelong Republican, but I think could have persuaded him to vote for Sanders.
No amount of effort would talk him into voting for Cinton.
She is "anybody but Trump".
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)..and this self same group thinks they Are entitled enough to over ride majority vote, majority of PD, majority of SD and get Bernie nominates via threats, or are voting for Drumpf. I really wonder if they realize how completely stupid and ignorant they sound. So stupid that they really think this is a valid threat. I think the label of progressivism, and indeed Democracy is beyond their ability to reason.
Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)Overtly advocating the election be stolen. It's hypocrisy.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Response to riversedge (Original post)
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Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Whipping up hatred and dissension. Making the Dem Party the object of his ridicule.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)BootinUp
(47,144 posts)Just voting against the two party system to be a spoiler or something.
kerry-is-my-prez
(8,133 posts)Andy823
(11,495 posts)Never voted for a Democrat in their life. They are trolls for Trump, or Karl Rove. Their job has been to try and divide the Democratic party by bashing and trashing. They play both sides pretending to be supporters of one of the two candidates, but all they are really doing is trying to get as many Democratic voters pissed off at the "other" candidate in hopes many will not vote if their candidate loses the nomination.
Sad things is some Democrats are falling for their BS, but near as many as the media is trying to claim.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)And all the Bernie supporters I know have too, so take your unfounded bull and put it somewhere.
Andy823
(11,495 posts)I really don't care. I never said "all" of his supporters were trolls, did I? I am glad you are not a troll, but whether you want to believe it or not, a huge number of those causing the problems, and claiming to be his supporters, are trolls. I am sure you and many others will refuse to belie that, but it's true. You might also have missed where I said they are working "both" sides, not just one.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)That's some progress, at least.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)That idea seems to come out of the minions of Camp Weathervane.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)Are you now saying that you're wrong? Or do you just want to have it both ways?
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)Actual people casting actual votes, actually choosing Clinton over Sanders is meaningless if there's some random poll that shows otherwise.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)Can't help it if Sanders' folks refuse to be part of the congregation.
riversedge
(70,205 posts)Dem2
(8,168 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)they gave their opinion of what would happen, but never said they were actually voting for Trump.
Reading comprehension fail.
Well, we'll see.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)hellofromreddit
(1,182 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)I suspect much of that is just frustration with losing the primary.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Only 20%? You aren't doing your job right. Now get to it! Crank out those divisive insulting op's!
derpderpderp
(43 posts)Response to derpderpderp (Reply #24)
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Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)PRINCETON, NJ -- A sizable proportion of Democrats would vote for John McCain next November if he is matched against the candidate they do not support for the Democratic nomination. This is particularly true for Hillary Clinton supporters, more than a quarter of whom currently say they would vote for McCain if Barack Obama is the Democratic nominee.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/105691/mccain-vs-obama-28-clinton-backers-mccain.aspx
This year 8% of Clinton supporters say they won't vote for the Democrat if it is Bernie.
Do you think 28% of Hillary people voted for McCain in the end? I don't.
And by the way, every Republican ever to run has been a bigot. It's just that some of you don't mind some forms of bigotry as much as other forms of bigotry
To the OP: Were you Hillary 08 supporter? Were you among the 28%?
apcalc
(4,465 posts)Would vote for Sanders, even though they do not prefer him, to keep Trump out of the White House.
There are those Sanders voters , as of now, who are not willing to say they will support her.
This is why Sanders polls better than Clinton against Trump at this point....at least pollsters are indicating that.
So, we may just end up with Trump...but things could change. The thought of Trump in the White House, with a Republican congress and Senate ought to fill everyone with terror.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)in 2008. Why do you think they were so much more anti Obama? What's the big difference. Obama and Clinton are more similar politically than Sanders and Clinton.....
apcalc
(4,465 posts)The great majority of her voters did end up voting for Obama.
Uponthegears
(1,499 posts)You on spinning a most damning fact regarding the one issue Hillarista Army? Faced with the fact that far fewer Sanders supporters are prepared to jump ship in 2016 than Hillary supporters were prepared to jump ship in 2008, you cleverly turned this into a comparison between Trump and McCain.
How perfectly Rovian of you.
gordianot
(15,237 posts)The bigger liar as opposed to the better liar wins only 20%, taste counts for something.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)CBS was higher, but alas, we know which ones get the most notice.
Kall
(615 posts)"Sanders can attract voters upset with political establishment and/or trade deals that sell out Americans"
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)That the presidency should be handed to Trump by making Hillary the Democratic candidate?
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)Vinca
(50,269 posts)Two former governors, both respected and one (Weld) loved by Democrats when he was Massachusetts governor.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Dem2
(8,168 posts)Please, only a complete list will do!
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)cares nothing for liberalism or the American people...they are merely groupies...same sort who follow rock bands. No progressive in an election year where the president could appoint up to five justices to the Supreme Court during his/her tenure would vote for Trump who is the worst of the worst or any Republican. Thus, I put the worst of them on ignore...something I have never done before and I am just waiting it out. We are ready here in Ohio...to roll out the GE apparatus for our nominee Hillary Clinton.
Larkspur
(12,804 posts)yet most did.
So HRC supporters you are getting a taste of your own medicine.
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HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Reap what you sow...
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)November 2016 - Dems for the win and strong indication of taking back the senate.
Cheers!
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panader0
(25,816 posts)This in contrast to 60% of HRC who said they would support Obama in 2008.
Such rank hypocrisy.
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)They are swing voters who find both Sanders and Trump to be more authentic and trustworthy than Hillary. Many of them also oppose free trade and the war in Iraq, and find Trump's positions on those issues to be better than Hillary's. I have several Republican/Libertarian leaning friends who say they would vote for Sanders over Trump, but Trump over Hillary. Obviously, I don't agree with them, but the Sanders voters who prefer Trump over Hillary are people like them, NOT the liberal activists who support Bernie. Some of the diehard liberal Bernie supporters may vote Green or write him in, but they are not the ones voting for Trump.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Precisely
Number23
(24,544 posts)Clinton supporters vote for Sanders in a Sanders vs Trump game.
Sadly, a good sized group of Sanders supporters will not vote for the Democrat and are actually planning on not voting or -- astonishingly -- actively planning on voting Trump.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Now, if she's got some brilliant plan to win over people between now and november, that's fucking spectacular. But even she admits she doesnt have the political chops of her husband or, say, a Barack Obama.
And her supporters are making it clear that the only "outreach" they're interested in doing to the vile, shambling masses of Sanders supporters they have spent the past 10 months throwing crap at, is another hearty batch of "screw youuuuu".
Millennials will be finger-wagged and told to get off the lawn some more. Etc.
The Brock crowd thinks they'll make up the difference with "megachurch moms", which is absurd on its fucking face.
So there is an actual problem, whether Hill Folk want to admit it or not.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)It happens every election...news at 11:00
still_one
(92,189 posts)themselves as sanders supporter when asked who they would vote for between Hillary and trump, say trump.
Whether these folks are actually Sanders supporters, or as the news has been reporting, republicans identifying themselves as Hillary or Bernie supporters in or to divide, I doubt we will know for sure, but this poll implies something isn't passing the smell test
anotherproletariat
(1,446 posts)You are right, they are certainly not liberals.