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riversedge

(70,205 posts)
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:34 AM May 2016

20% Sanders supporters say they'll vote for bigoted, sexist Islamophobe ....this is quite the libe




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20% Sanders supporters say they'll vote for bigoted, sexist Islamophobe ....this is quite the libe (Original Post) riversedge May 2016 OP
I asked the question earlier this week. Sanders supporters love to taunt Democrats with Renew Deal May 2016 #1
That they are dying economically due to the race to the bottom of free trade agreements? lostnfound May 2016 #8
So elect a man that has gone bankrupt four times. Brilliant. seabeyond May 2016 #34
I don't think it's brilliant. It just completely sucks. The choice between bad and worse. Nt lostnfound May 2016 #40
"The choice between bad and worse." That is such a blatantly false statement. When I hear this, seabeyond May 2016 #41
So choose worse is wise?!!? Come on guys, this is more temper tantrum uponit7771 May 2016 #67
You have no idea how low the bottom can be when WhiteTara May 2016 #59
principles would not abound, and Donald's racist, xenophobic, misogynistic beliefs lostnfound May 2016 #74
Sorry you family is so divided. WhiteTara May 2016 #75
Yeah it's a bummer lostnfound May 2016 #77
These are likely the loudest and most boorish of all Sheepshank May 2016 #69
Look at this Renew Deal May 2016 #71
Wow...so many caps. It must be cereal lol nt Sheepshank May 2016 #73
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #2
And, he damn well knows this, so he plays right to them. Surya Gayatri May 2016 #3
Insane. JaneyVee May 2016 #4
Sounds like people who know nothing about politics BootinUp May 2016 #5
A bunch of kids is my guess. And the undereducated. kerry-is-my-prez May 2016 #64
Kind of reminds me of 2008... thomservo May 2016 #6
And the majority of that group Andy823 May 2016 #7
Hate to tell you this but I've been voting D since 1972 hobbit709 May 2016 #11
Hate to tell you Andy823 May 2016 #31
Goody goody gumdrops-you don't care! hobbit709 May 2016 #32
Yup. Nt seabeyond May 2016 #35
According to your source there's 8% of clinton voters doing the same. hobbit709 May 2016 #9
So, you admit Sanders fans are almost 3x more likely to be bigoted, sexist & Islamophobic. baldguy May 2016 #14
Nope. Since none of the Bernie supporters i know would even consider the idea. hobbit709 May 2016 #15
20% vs. 8%, as you yourself said. baldguy May 2016 #17
Funny how your opinion of polls changes with the results. hobbit709 May 2016 #20
Funny how you cherry-pick polls & ignore the results of the primaries. baldguy May 2016 #25
I quit. I'm not giving singing lessons. hobbit709 May 2016 #26
The Democratic chior sings just fine, thank you. baldguy May 2016 #27
20% vs only 8% of Hillary supporters. la la riversedge May 2016 #79
Except this one last night Dem2 May 2016 #47
Nowhere did the poster say they were voting for Trump. hobbit709 May 2016 #49
LMAO Dem2 May 2016 #51
Yep. hobbit709 May 2016 #55
MOE, Sanders camp is NOT in the moe... that's a shame uponit7771 May 2016 #66
And 80 percent who wouldn't is insignificant? Armstead May 2016 #10
Clearly, Sanders is the only democratic candidate that can pull voters away from Trump. hellofromreddit May 2016 #12
Much like the vaunted PUMAs in 2008 mythology May 2016 #13
Bingo! thomservo May 2016 #16
PUMA of 2016. Yup. Upwards of 80% are comfortable voting Clinton. seabeyond May 2016 #37
. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #18
Please post this again. Warren Stupidity May 2016 #22
Do you think we have any here? DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #19
thank you Warren Stupidity May 2016 #23
Well you all should work harder to get those numbers up! Warren Stupidity May 2016 #21
What's the percentage of us that won't vote for Hillary or Trump? derpderpderp May 2016 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author Sheepshank May 2016 #70
Gallup March 2008- If McCain vs. Obama, 28% of Clinton Backers Go for McCain Bluenorthwest May 2016 #28
According to pollsters, her voters apcalc May 2016 #29
More Hillary supporters say they are willing to vote for Sanders than said they'd vote for Obama Bluenorthwest May 2016 #42
Dunno apcalc May 2016 #62
May I compliment Uponthegears May 2016 #30
K&R mcar May 2016 #33
Very encouraging only 20% take the greater more obvious path than the lesser path. gordianot May 2016 #36
New NBC poll has HRC up three over T-rump Iliyah May 2016 #38
Alternate title: Kall May 2016 #39
If Hillary captures the nomination. Otherwise they would vote for Sanders. What's your point? imagine2015 May 2016 #43
What's a libe? imagine2015 May 2016 #44
Or the Libertarian ticket. Vinca May 2016 #45
100% of Clinton supporters would vote for a corporatist warmonger Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #46
You forgot: Oligarch Third Way DLC Corporatist Triangulation corporate shill bankster warmonger Dem2 May 2016 #48
corporatist warmonger really covers the entire problem. Warren Stupidity May 2016 #60
That type of voter Demsrule86 May 2016 #50
And PUMAs in 2008 said that they would never vote for Obama Larkspur May 2016 #52
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #53
Too bad you corporatists declared war on the Left. HooptieWagon May 2016 #54
Same thing happened in 2008. Iliyah May 2016 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #57
72% of Sanders voters have said they will support HRC if she is the nominee. panader0 May 2016 #58
The people saying that are NOT the liberal activists democrattotheend May 2016 #61
Those are the dynamics at play nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #68
And as has already been pointed out, THIS is the reason that Sanders is beating Trump this far out Number23 May 2016 #63
Hillary Clinton, like it or not, has very high negatives with the public. That is a fact. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #72
And I expect a good number of conservadems to do as well nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #65
It is my suspecision why the national polls are skewed. A good number of folks identifying still_one May 2016 #76
And I bet the number is around 80-90% of those on DU...these people are the worst. anotherproletariat May 2016 #78

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
1. I asked the question earlier this week. Sanders supporters love to taunt Democrats with
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:38 AM
May 2016

other Sanders supporters (but somehow never themselves) voting for Trump. What does it say for the judgement of the Trump loving Sanders supporter?

lostnfound

(16,178 posts)
8. That they are dying economically due to the race to the bottom of free trade agreements?
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:59 AM
May 2016

If that's their only issue.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
41. "The choice between bad and worse." That is such a blatantly false statement. When I hear this,
Sun May 22, 2016, 01:14 PM
May 2016

it tells me to walk....

WhiteTara

(29,706 posts)
59. You have no idea how low the bottom can be when
Sun May 22, 2016, 03:00 PM
May 2016

another republicon takes over the WH with majorities in the Senate, House and SCOTUS. Bread lines won't even be around. But principles will be upheld as we all sink in the muck of climate change and poverty and starvation. Guns will abound though.

lostnfound

(16,178 posts)
74. principles would not abound, and Donald's racist, xenophobic, misogynistic beliefs
Mon May 23, 2016, 09:26 AM
May 2016

Would take hold like kudzu. It's hard to know what such a basket case would be as head of state, but it's easy to imagine that it would lead to an attempt to try to return to white-man-rule for the economy.

Brownshirts
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Divisive culture

Speaking of divisive culture, I think my family might be headed toward open warfare at this election. The consequence of two wildly unpopular candidates. In 50s and 60s, siblings are so very angry that the other is supporting someone so reprehensible in their eyes. One sibling is a professional college-educated female, the other is a hardworking former technician-and-small-entrepreneur male that lost most of his life savings in a rigged stock market. Which one is supporting which?

WhiteTara

(29,706 posts)
75. Sorry you family is so divided.
Mon May 23, 2016, 10:27 AM
May 2016

I'm sure your brother is in great pain. Is he supporting Trump? I don't find Bernie reprehensible, does she?

lostnfound

(16,178 posts)
77. Yeah it's a bummer
Mon May 23, 2016, 07:03 PM
May 2016

He's a lifelong Republican, but I think could have persuaded him to vote for Sanders.
No amount of effort would talk him into voting for Cinton.

She is "anybody but Trump".

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
69. These are likely the loudest and most boorish of all
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:38 PM
May 2016

..and this self same group thinks they Are entitled enough to over ride majority vote, majority of PD, majority of SD and get Bernie nominates via threats, or are voting for Drumpf. I really wonder if they realize how completely stupid and ignorant they sound. So stupid that they really think this is a valid threat. I think the label of progressivism, and indeed Democracy is beyond their ability to reason.

Response to riversedge (Original post)

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
3. And, he damn well knows this, so he plays right to them.
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:42 AM
May 2016

Whipping up hatred and dissension. Making the Dem Party the object of his ridicule.

BootinUp

(47,144 posts)
5. Sounds like people who know nothing about politics
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:51 AM
May 2016

Just voting against the two party system to be a spoiler or something.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
7. And the majority of that group
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:57 AM
May 2016

Never voted for a Democrat in their life. They are trolls for Trump, or Karl Rove. Their job has been to try and divide the Democratic party by bashing and trashing. They play both sides pretending to be supporters of one of the two candidates, but all they are really doing is trying to get as many Democratic voters pissed off at the "other" candidate in hopes many will not vote if their candidate loses the nomination.

Sad things is some Democrats are falling for their BS, but near as many as the media is trying to claim.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
11. Hate to tell you this but I've been voting D since 1972
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:02 AM
May 2016

And all the Bernie supporters I know have too, so take your unfounded bull and put it somewhere.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
31. Hate to tell you
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:31 AM
May 2016

I really don't care. I never said "all" of his supporters were trolls, did I? I am glad you are not a troll, but whether you want to believe it or not, a huge number of those causing the problems, and claiming to be his supporters, are trolls. I am sure you and many others will refuse to belie that, but it's true. You might also have missed where I said they are working "both" sides, not just one.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
14. So, you admit Sanders fans are almost 3x more likely to be bigoted, sexist & Islamophobic.
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:05 AM
May 2016

That's some progress, at least.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
15. Nope. Since none of the Bernie supporters i know would even consider the idea.
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:07 AM
May 2016

That idea seems to come out of the minions of Camp Weathervane.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
17. 20% vs. 8%, as you yourself said.
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:10 AM
May 2016

Are you now saying that you're wrong? Or do you just want to have it both ways?

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
25. Funny how you cherry-pick polls & ignore the results of the primaries.
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:16 AM
May 2016

Actual people casting actual votes, actually choosing Clinton over Sanders is meaningless if there's some random poll that shows otherwise.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
27. The Democratic chior sings just fine, thank you.
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:19 AM
May 2016

Can't help it if Sanders' folks refuse to be part of the congregation.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
49. Nowhere did the poster say they were voting for Trump.
Sun May 22, 2016, 01:41 PM
May 2016

they gave their opinion of what would happen, but never said they were actually voting for Trump.
Reading comprehension fail.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
13. Much like the vaunted PUMAs in 2008
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:05 AM
May 2016

I suspect much of that is just frustration with losing the primary.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
21. Well you all should work harder to get those numbers up!
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:14 AM
May 2016

Only 20%? You aren't doing your job right. Now get to it! Crank out those divisive insulting op's!

Response to derpderpderp (Reply #24)

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
28. Gallup March 2008- If McCain vs. Obama, 28% of Clinton Backers Go for McCain
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:19 AM
May 2016

PRINCETON, NJ -- A sizable proportion of Democrats would vote for John McCain next November if he is matched against the candidate they do not support for the Democratic nomination. This is particularly true for Hillary Clinton supporters, more than a quarter of whom currently say they would vote for McCain if Barack Obama is the Democratic nominee.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/105691/mccain-vs-obama-28-clinton-backers-mccain.aspx

This year 8% of Clinton supporters say they won't vote for the Democrat if it is Bernie.

Do you think 28% of Hillary people voted for McCain in the end? I don't.

And by the way, every Republican ever to run has been a bigot. It's just that some of you don't mind some forms of bigotry as much as other forms of bigotry

To the OP: Were you Hillary 08 supporter? Were you among the 28%?

apcalc

(4,465 posts)
29. According to pollsters, her voters
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:23 AM
May 2016

Would vote for Sanders, even though they do not prefer him, to keep Trump out of the White House.

There are those Sanders voters , as of now, who are not willing to say they will support her.

This is why Sanders polls better than Clinton against Trump at this point....at least pollsters are indicating that.

So, we may just end up with Trump...but things could change. The thought of Trump in the White House, with a Republican congress and Senate ought to fill everyone with terror.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
42. More Hillary supporters say they are willing to vote for Sanders than said they'd vote for Obama
Sun May 22, 2016, 01:22 PM
May 2016

in 2008. Why do you think they were so much more anti Obama? What's the big difference. Obama and Clinton are more similar politically than Sanders and Clinton.....

 

Uponthegears

(1,499 posts)
30. May I compliment
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:31 AM
May 2016

You on spinning a most damning fact regarding the one issue Hillarista Army? Faced with the fact that far fewer Sanders supporters are prepared to jump ship in 2016 than Hillary supporters were prepared to jump ship in 2008, you cleverly turned this into a comparison between Trump and McCain.

How perfectly Rovian of you.

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
36. Very encouraging only 20% take the greater more obvious path than the lesser path.
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:36 AM
May 2016

The bigger liar as opposed to the better liar wins only 20%, taste counts for something.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
38. New NBC poll has HRC up three over T-rump
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:45 AM
May 2016

CBS was higher, but alas, we know which ones get the most notice.

Kall

(615 posts)
39. Alternate title:
Sun May 22, 2016, 10:01 AM
May 2016

"Sanders can attract voters upset with political establishment and/or trade deals that sell out Americans"

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
43. If Hillary captures the nomination. Otherwise they would vote for Sanders. What's your point?
Sun May 22, 2016, 01:23 PM
May 2016


That the presidency should be handed to Trump by making Hillary the Democratic candidate?






Vinca

(50,269 posts)
45. Or the Libertarian ticket.
Sun May 22, 2016, 01:26 PM
May 2016

Two former governors, both respected and one (Weld) loved by Democrats when he was Massachusetts governor.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
48. You forgot: Oligarch Third Way DLC Corporatist Triangulation corporate shill bankster warmonger
Sun May 22, 2016, 01:37 PM
May 2016

Please, only a complete list will do!

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
60. corporatist warmonger really covers the entire problem.
Sun May 22, 2016, 04:05 PM
May 2016
Oligarch Third Way DLC shill bankster do not add any new information.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
50. That type of voter
Sun May 22, 2016, 01:51 PM
May 2016

cares nothing for liberalism or the American people...they are merely groupies...same sort who follow rock bands. No progressive in an election year where the president could appoint up to five justices to the Supreme Court during his/her tenure would vote for Trump who is the worst of the worst or any Republican. Thus, I put the worst of them on ignore...something I have never done before and I am just waiting it out. We are ready here in Ohio...to roll out the GE apparatus for our nominee Hillary Clinton.

 

Larkspur

(12,804 posts)
52. And PUMAs in 2008 said that they would never vote for Obama
Sun May 22, 2016, 02:02 PM
May 2016

yet most did.

So HRC supporters you are getting a taste of your own medicine.

Response to riversedge (Original post)

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
56. Same thing happened in 2008.
Sun May 22, 2016, 02:10 PM
May 2016

November 2016 - Dems for the win and strong indication of taking back the senate.

Cheers!

Response to riversedge (Original post)

panader0

(25,816 posts)
58. 72% of Sanders voters have said they will support HRC if she is the nominee.
Sun May 22, 2016, 02:57 PM
May 2016

This in contrast to 60% of HRC who said they would support Obama in 2008.
Such rank hypocrisy.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
61. The people saying that are NOT the liberal activists
Sun May 22, 2016, 04:14 PM
May 2016

They are swing voters who find both Sanders and Trump to be more authentic and trustworthy than Hillary. Many of them also oppose free trade and the war in Iraq, and find Trump's positions on those issues to be better than Hillary's. I have several Republican/Libertarian leaning friends who say they would vote for Sanders over Trump, but Trump over Hillary. Obviously, I don't agree with them, but the Sanders voters who prefer Trump over Hillary are people like them, NOT the liberal activists who support Bernie. Some of the diehard liberal Bernie supporters may vote Green or write him in, but they are not the ones voting for Trump.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
63. And as has already been pointed out, THIS is the reason that Sanders is beating Trump this far out
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:10 PM
May 2016

Clinton supporters vote for Sanders in a Sanders vs Trump game.

Sadly, a good sized group of Sanders supporters will not vote for the Democrat and are actually planning on not voting or -- astonishingly -- actively planning on voting Trump.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
72. Hillary Clinton, like it or not, has very high negatives with the public. That is a fact.
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:51 PM
May 2016

Now, if she's got some brilliant plan to win over people between now and november, that's fucking spectacular. But even she admits she doesnt have the political chops of her husband or, say, a Barack Obama.

And her supporters are making it clear that the only "outreach" they're interested in doing to the vile, shambling masses of Sanders supporters they have spent the past 10 months throwing crap at, is another hearty batch of "screw youuuuu".

Millennials will be finger-wagged and told to get off the lawn some more. Etc.

The Brock crowd thinks they'll make up the difference with "megachurch moms", which is absurd on its fucking face.


So there is an actual problem, whether Hill Folk want to admit it or not.

still_one

(92,189 posts)
76. It is my suspecision why the national polls are skewed. A good number of folks identifying
Mon May 23, 2016, 10:35 AM
May 2016

themselves as sanders supporter when asked who they would vote for between Hillary and trump, say trump.

Whether these folks are actually Sanders supporters, or as the news has been reporting, republicans identifying themselves as Hillary or Bernie supporters in or to divide, I doubt we will know for sure, but this poll implies something isn't passing the smell test


 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
78. And I bet the number is around 80-90% of those on DU...these people are the worst.
Mon May 23, 2016, 07:29 PM
May 2016

You are right, they are certainly not liberals.

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