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Kurska

(5,739 posts)
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:45 AM May 2016

Trump now leads Hillary for the first time ever in RCP's polling average

Just taken a .4 leads over Hillary. This is the future we chose when primary participants went for name recognition and party loyalty over enthusiasm and vision. Who knows, maybe Hillary will make her first polling come back in her political career.

Right.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

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Trump now leads Hillary for the first time ever in RCP's polling average (Original Post) Kurska May 2016 OP
These poll in may don't matter, they will yoyo.. dubyadiprecession May 2016 #1
Yep, very good point. These polls go all over the place, and this is far too early. n/t RKP5637 May 2016 #7
Yo yo? Hillary's numbers seldom go up. Someone didn't tie the string on her yo yo. derpderpderp May 2016 #23
Thanks Bernie. nt Nonhlanhla May 2016 #2
Thank yourself. Bernie didn't foist Hillary on us. n/t Jester Messiah May 2016 #4
The polls reflect the fact that Nonhlanhla May 2016 #20
Hillary is electoral poison. Jester Messiah May 2016 #21
At just what point does Hillary's campaign become her own responsibility? Kurska May 2016 #6
I think it's better to say "Thanks Hillary." She's the one with the responsibility. RKP5637 May 2016 #8
Bernie never sold his soul to Wall Street, it's all on HRC... Yurovsky May 2016 #19
At times, McCain and Romney were ahead of Obama in the polls. JoePhilly May 2016 #3
Hillary is not Obama EndElectoral May 2016 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #5
We can only hope Kurska May 2016 #9
I think it's going to be very difficult for Hillary. My goal, I want a dem in the WH. With such RKP5637 May 2016 #12
About May Polling tgards79 May 2016 #10
At this time in 2008, McCain 47% - Obama 42 Henhouse May 2016 #11
Yes, what seriously hurt McCain and the GOP was the Bush financial crisis in September EndElectoral May 2016 #15
Only a month off from actually being this time. timmymoff May 2016 #18
It's called a "bump" Zambero May 2016 #13
Dont' get the surprise. Honestly, expect the trend to continue and it to get worse. EndElectoral May 2016 #14
Those who dismiss these national polls SheenaR May 2016 #17
Not good. nt. andym May 2016 #22

dubyadiprecession

(5,707 posts)
1. These poll in may don't matter, they will yoyo..
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:51 AM
May 2016

Don't needlessly put yourself on an emotional roller coaster.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
20. The polls reflect the fact that
Sun May 22, 2016, 12:56 PM
May 2016

the Republicans have started to coalesce around Trump, while the Democrats are still divided, largely because Bernie is continuing to attack Hillary even though he's already lost. Yes, Hillary is a flawed candidate. So is Bernie. So is Trump. But Hillary is the only one getting attacked from both sides.

Luckily polls this far out are meaningless. Just ask President Dukakis and President McCain. But meanwhile, yes, Hillary's current poll numbers have a LOT to do with Bernie's smearing of her as well as the fact that his continued campaign is preventing us from coalescing around our nominee.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
6. At just what point does Hillary's campaign become her own responsibility?
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:53 AM
May 2016

If Hillary can't close the deal that is her fault. Bernie's only sin is presenting a decent alternative to party politics.

RKP5637

(67,107 posts)
8. I think it's better to say "Thanks Hillary." She's the one with the responsibility.
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:57 AM
May 2016

I also think it's good she duels with Bernie, good practice for going 1:1 with Trump.

Yurovsky

(2,064 posts)
19. Bernie never sold his soul to Wall Street, it's all on HRC...
Sun May 22, 2016, 10:59 AM
May 2016

but that won't stop the HRC minions from blaming everyone else for her myriad of shortcomings as a candidate. As liberal Democrats understand the depths to which HRC has sunk to carry water for Wall Street & corporate fat cats, her support evaporates.

Stop blaming Bernie or anyone else... It's all on Hillary.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
3. At times, McCain and Romney were ahead of Obama in the polls.
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:52 AM
May 2016

Remind me how their Presidencies turned out.

Response to Kurska (Original post)

RKP5637

(67,107 posts)
12. I think it's going to be very difficult for Hillary. My goal, I want a dem in the WH. With such
Sun May 22, 2016, 10:03 AM
May 2016

high unfavorability ratings for Hillary and Trump, it's hard to tell what masses of Independents might do. Now, there is also likely going to be the mix of Libertarians in the pot with Johnson/Weld. What does concern me is all of Hillary's baggage will be drawn out by Trump. Millions of people are fed up with establishment politics in the US. It's hard to tell what might happen. When all of the fray is over, I certainly hope a dem is in the WH.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
13. It's called a "bump"
Sun May 22, 2016, 10:50 AM
May 2016

Trump has secured the GOP nomination. The media of course eats it up 24/7. For now, the dust has settled with no debates to remind people that the guy is an egomaniac and loose cannon. The real contest is in summer and fall, I look forward to a focused campaign with one-on one debates in front of a large national audience where Trump's record of demagoguery and divisiveness paired with his abrasive style will provide undecided voters with a basis for the choice they will be marking.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
17. Those who dismiss these national polls
Sun May 22, 2016, 10:54 AM
May 2016

Should also dismiss that 72% figure of Sanders supporters who will actually vote for her that has been touted frequently. I mean, national polls are worthless right?

After the last few weeks, and toward the convention id be surprised if it were 50%

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