Over 4,000 Bernie votes disappear in KY but Sanders supporters need a psychologist?

[pinebox]

Um....sure.
Meanwhile in a town called "Reality".

http://heavy.com/news/2016/05/votes-disappear-kentucky-primary-reassigned-fraud-what-happened-bernie-sanders-roque-de-la-fuente/


Anne Marie shared the following photo of the same thing happening while she was watching, between 9:15 and 9:33 p.m. (We’re not sure of the timezones for these posts.) In this time frame, his count went from 207,278 to 205,576:



Sanders’ supporters noticed that he mysteriously lost 2,000 to 5,000 votes during the primary. The exact time this happened varied depending on which source you were watching. On The Guardian, between 6:25 and 6:30 p.m., his vote count changed from 210,228 to 205,576.

[smiley]

1. They create their own reality.

Little things like democracy are of no concern to those cheerleading for Hillary Clinton.

[pinebox]

5. Indeed they do

And it's sad.

SO many excuses, so little action.

[Ferd Berfel]

23. Yep - It's a thing the right wingers do

REALITY-BASED Community
Those of us in the REALITY-BASED Community cannot afford to forget THIS:

“….The aide said that guys like me were ‘‘in what we call the reality-based community,” which he defined as people who ”believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.” I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ”That’s not the way the world really works anymore,” he continued. ”We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”


Without a Doubt – By RON SUSKIND – – October 17, 2004- pg 6
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9C05EFD8113BF934A25753C1A9629C8B63&pagewanted=1

[PeoViejo]

26. Seems that way, doesn't it.

....and they keep any opposition from commenting on their 'reality' by posting in a monoculture group.

I was just over at the HC group and noticed a post where they were trying to project Bernie as a Homophobe by no being on some imaginary 'Pink Square'

..But everyone gets to read it. Talk about Propaganda and some imaginary reality.

[JoePhilly]

2. Well ... if you have a screen shot of a cell phone!!!!

[Tarc]

3. Same thing as Deleware, most likely, where there was an AP glitch

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But the Sanders crew runs straight for the conspiracy theory.

[notadmblnd]

27. With all the damn glitches in all the damn states

one would expect one of them at some point to fall in Sanders favor.

But no every damn glitch in every damn state where they occurred go to Hillary.

I know it's all coincidence, she just a lucky thing.

[bettyellen]

38. This is like the coin tosses, right? SBS chose to go first @ debates, FFS.

Even when he gets his way, you all make up a conspiracy.

[notadmblnd]

40. I didn't make any of the glitches up

[J_J_]

49. +1000000

nt

[bkkyosemite]

51. In denial keep being in denial. When many states have glitches the glitches become very

suspicious!

[Tarc]

55. You obviously know little about technology beyond downloading the latest Candy Crush update

Things happen all the time, technology is not infallible.

The fact that the Sanders campaign has not challenged a single one of these allegedly tampered-with elections is telling. I think his legal team has a better handle on the matter than a pseudonymous DU'er.

[reformist2]

4. Simulating reality in real-time is hard. Don't worry, they'll get better at it!

At the very least, it calls into the question the accuracy of numbers that are slapped together in mere minutes, in the race to call the election.

What's the rush, I ask??? Let's count them slowly, with independent observers. Let's count them right.

And I don't see what the big deal is, asking for a recount. Everyone should be happy to count the numbers to make as many skeptical people happy as possible.

[pinebox]

6. The ones against a recount

seem to be the ones who are against open primaries.

[LonePirate]

14. I'm all for recounts but open primaries that only let Indies join are wrong.

An open primary should be exactly that - everyone from any party should vote - not just the party hosting the primary and independents. In fact, all candidates for all parties should be in the same primary and everybody votes in the same race. Primaries don't come more open than that but people don't seem to want that type of open primary because the independents are allegedly fawned over in them.

[Arneoker]

16. Sure, let them have recounts

We have them all the time here in Virginia, where excruciatingly close elections are the norm. They rarely change anything. But every candidate, including Sanders, has a right to ask for one, in the context of the relevant laws and rules of course.

BTW, weren't the Sanders people thinking about asking for a recount? I presume they decided against it. If that's so, why is that? Could they be in on "it" too?

[pinebox]

18. Honestly I believe it's still being persued

Things in KY though don't move at the fastest pace unless you have a tea party governor who rolls back everything.

[MyNameGoesHere]

7. Ok fine. You want Kentucky? Take it

you're still losing.

[pinebox]

8. It's "YOU'RE".

Just saying.

[MyNameGoesHere]

9. I edited it before you

had to get your barbs in. So have a nice day.

[pinebox]

12. Heh good deal

Pet peeve of mine with that word

At least it isn't as bad when you comment on someone's photograph and mean to say "nice shot" but autocorrect gets you with "nice shit". Yup yup.

[SidDithers]

10. And then they came back...

All the votes for Pike County were removed from the total, for a short period, then added back in a few minutes later.

You'll note that Clinton votes were also reduced.

Sid

[randome]

11. If you're not going to learn how these systems work...

...then you shouldn't be opining on them. It is ridiculously easy to tally results wrongly. Also ridiculously easy for the error to be detected and corrected. Case closed.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[Time for change]

50. More important, it's ridiculously easy to rig the vote counting

[randome]

58. No. It isn't. There are checks and balances.

A lot of people are involved, a lot of tabulating systems are involved. Sanders lost. Stop trying to push the meme that he was cheated.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[LonePirate]

13. Why do people immediately jump to fraud instead of more obvious answers?

The votes were still being counted when these screen shots were taken. This seems like a case of human error during the tabulation, most likely a set of numbers being entered twice or perhaps in the wrong field in a spreadsheet or database. An on the spot audit corrected the issue, thus the change in numbers. Of course, these sorts of normal changes don't feed the victim of fraud narrative some prefer to propagate these days.

[reformist2]

17. If errors of that size are occuring, then we need to slow down the process and double-check later.

Right?

[LonePirate]

22. Absolutely. Double, triple, quadruple check the numbers at all stages.

One of these checks obviously caught the error and corrected it. This is not a case of fraud or tampering no matter how much some people wish it were.

[merrily]

15. Actually, we don't know how many disappeared. We know only what was on TV.

That may not be the whole story. There are even claims of votes being discarded in Oregon.

And, to correct the record with reality, the Pope never said Sanders supporters need a psychiatrist. He said those claiming the Pope's face time with Bernie was political need a psychiatrist. This was in response to a goading question from media.

[pinebox]

19. It's insane.

[reformist2]

20. It's like a video game... and just as real!

[merrily]

21. HUH?

[pinebox]

29. I'm curious are you aware our armed forces train using video games?

The US Army has their own and the public can even play it.

Welcome to America's Army.

https://www.americasarmy.com

[brooklynite]

43. Why didn't you TELL us you had a rainbow-colored Photoshop meme...that makes all the difference

[merrily]

48. Huh? Meme this. Screen caps from CNN show votes for Sanders going down.

If you're only going to post meaningless nonsense, please reply to someone else, or to your own posts. Thanks.

[RBInMaine]

28. Uh yeah, and something caught on film in the night sky must be a UFO.

This is NONSENSE. There was a simple tabulation error caught and corrected. Sorry, no conspiracy. No fraud. Please come down to the plant Earth.

[pinebox]

31. Please ask your candidate to condemn those who support her & voted against Trans rights

[bkkyosemite]

52. Where is the proof please that it was corrected in ....how many states....

[silvershadow]

30. Gaslighting. nt

[hrmjustin]

32. Oh Good God!

The votes came right back a few minutes later.

This is so pathetic!

[SidDithers]

33. ...

Sid

[NWCorona]

35. Now that is stylish!

[hack89]

34. Clinton lost votes too. Nt

[LadyHawkAZ]

36. 2000: "ELECTION FRAUD!" 2004: "ELECTION FRAUD!" 2016 "meh glitch nbd u r stupid

just reporting error fair n square u r soo stupid tinfoil hat..."

[senz]

37. She can't win fair and square.

California: beware.

[Land Shark]

39. And the reported vote margin was 1924, the year of birth of George H.W. Bush.

Of course, it is mere coincidence that the margin ended up, at least for now, as 1,924 votes, as that was also the year of Vladimir Lenin's death, and Woodrow Wilson's death, and Jimmy Carters birth as well.

It's still a pretty wacky coincidence. But i do think all elections are Kentucky-Fried Elections down there nevertheless. I've talked to people openly talking about election theft and the cost of buying various offices. Books have been written about election shenanigans down there.

Here's the link that shows a 1924 difference.https://www.google.com/search?site=&source=hp&ei=cxJCV9P7NoTvebS8vLAO&q=kentucky+democratic+presidential+primary+results+&oq=kentucky+democratic+presidential+primary+results+&gs_l=mobile-gws-hp.12...2167.10220.0.10906.18.18.0.7.7.0.392.4302.0j4j12j2.18.0....0...1c.1j4.64.mobile-gws-hp..2.15.2057.3..0j41j0i131j0i3.lFt9zEoQp2c#eob=m.0498y/D/2/short/m.0498y/

[Recursion]

41. Both candidates lost votes when a county pulled back its numbers

This happens pretty much every election and people seem surprised every time.

[brooklynite]

42. Still waiting for Bernie Sanders to concur by filing a complaint...anywhere.

[asuhornets]

44. Everytime Clinton wins, they cheated. What about states Bernie narrowly won..? Like Michigan.

Hillary supporters didn't say Sanders cheated.

[TheKentuckian]

45. Because the cheating was still happening but failed to overcome the margin

See Turdblossom in Ohio last time.

Just because you cheat doesn't mean you win everytime.

[Zynx]

46. It was because Pike County temporarily popped in and out of being counted.

When it was restored, Sanders had his votes in the same numbers they had been before.

There's no scandal here.

[LaydeeBug]

47. because whe *she* wins, it's fraud, and when *he* wins, it's a revolution.

[bkkyosemite]

53. Is there anyone at DU who has a compliation of the many states that had irregularities

and rigging. I would like to see a full list of the crap that went down in this Primary.

[bobthedrummer]

54. Some leading US psychologists are torturers, what conclusions can be drawn from that fact? K&R

[randome]

56. There's an investigation and 2 people were laid off, right?

So what is this about?
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[nadinbrzezinski]

57. When glitches were reported...my reaction was...they were hacked

[Sheepshank]

59. so you point to one moment in time and do not report the correction at another moment in time?

...this seems to be the Bernie platform of late. Manufacture a slight, and accidentally on purpose forget to provide the reality, can't be having anyone actually know the truth.

As for the need for a psychologist? I think that comment came from the Pope lol.