2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumRecent polls exhibit Clintons glaring weakenesses as a canidate
Any healthy democratic candidate would be beating Trump by double digits, combining the favorable demographics and the unfavorable perceived traits of the Donald. It is evident that what severely hurts her is the honesty question.
People cite polls from 1988 as an example of where there there was a big swing in the polls after the convention from Dukakis to Bush sr, but that was before the days of twenty for hour news channels, the internet and social media. A great slice of the voting population already have a cemented sense of the two candidates. If Hillary is the nominee, and she wins, it will be a squeaker. No way will carry a big enough wage to win the house.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)RDANGELO
(3,433 posts)Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)then vote for the guy. But, this is the DU.
RDANGELO
(3,433 posts)There is a possibility that neither of them will get the nomination.
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(7,299 posts)CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)Bernie has faced the least amount of criticism and negative coverage this entire cycle. His numbers are propped up by Republicans who want to run against him, and his voters who are butt-hurt about losing.
Bernie's numbers will likewise sink like a rock when subjected to months of attacks on his socialism, massive tax increases, out of wedlock son, and his wife bankrupting a college out of existence.
RDANGELO
(3,433 posts)it doesn't change the fact that Clinton is a severely flawed candidate. That was the subject of the post.
CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)RDANGELO
(3,433 posts)either of them.
CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)As soon as he faces reality..if ever..Hillary will start mopping the floor with Trump
RDANGELO
(3,433 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)But because Bernie is a pretend democrat he stays in to inflict maximum damage to the democratic party and its candidate for president.
And who gains from this?
hmm...
RDANGELO
(3,433 posts)Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)There is nothing sanders can do to get the nomination...nothing.
He could win all the remaining primaries and he still loses the nomination.
Math hates Bernie. It is what it is.
RDANGELO
(3,433 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I wouldn't be surprised if I learned they are in cahoots, you?
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Take your pick.
nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)and always loses ground thereafter.
She needs to be in healthy double-digits to keep enough of a lead to continue her usual downward trend and still win. but we'll see. maybe she'll reverse her career-long history.
Skink
(10,122 posts)What's changed?
Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)We're just throwing 2016 away. This isn't going to end well. Been saying for months now that a vote for hillary in the primary is a vote for trump. Seem to be the case.