Question for Democratic Primary voters- How big should servant quarters be?

[reddread]

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thank you so much.

[Fresh_Start]

1. Each of mine have a three bedroom cottage near the pool nt

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[DURHAM D]

2. Mine sleep in the yatchs and they

are welcome to take them out on the weekends.

[Fresh_Start]

3. But where are the yachts moored?

That is what determines whether or not yacht life is worth living.

[DURHAM D]

4. Pamlico Sound most of the time.

Sometimes they head to the Caribbean for a week or two.

I don't care where they go or how long they are away just as long as they send the occasional text message.

[Alex4Martinez]

5. 6 x 9 feet, double bunk.... 3 squares and health care. We must compete with Somalia.

So, the health care makes us competitive.

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I want my party back.


ETA:

In point of fact, there are those centrists who have sold us out in the name of global trade. Anti union, no environmental protections, these international trade agreements favor only the 1%.

We were better off under Carter, before NAFTA and a slew of other deregulation moves supported by both parties.

We need our FDR style party back.

[WhiteTara]

6. Too bad democrats didn't vote and

allowed all the progress made to be stolen by Raygun. Then in 2000 the cry of lesser of 2 evils brought us *co and true evil...although we may find out what Mafia evil is like under Drumpf by not voting for the Democratic nominee to spite those tools who voted for her.

[reddread]

10. you might not remember the makeup of congress back then

or the treasonous retention of American hostages for the political hopes of GHWB.

or a number of other actual facts.
carry on.

[WhiteTara]

11. I remember it all.

Ted Kennedy was the spoiler in that race.

[reddread]

12. yeah, much more so than Casey and Co.

[WhiteTara]

14. Of course Poppy and Casey were are VERY big

part, ...remember the cake? but Carter was fighting an inside battle as well because Kennedy thought he should be the dem nominee and Carter couldn't fight both sides and the of course the hostage thing and the botched rescue were the nails in his political coffin. So the solar panels came off the roof and big oil held sway again and he (Raygun) trickled down on all of us.

[reddread]

15. but like the Supreme Court, simply second fiddles to catastrophic Nader/Kennedy/Sanders challenges

lets not equivocate about who is at fault when conservatives steal power.

[WhiteTara]

17. Or when democrats help them.

Although Nadir didn't claim to be a democrat, he openly despises the party.

[reddread]

24. I already alluded to the Democratic majority in Reagan's congress

if not the entire lot who covered up the illegal weapons dealing, Iranian hijinks of the highest order, drugs in black neighborhoods from the Contra cowboys who were terrorizing Central America. PLAYING ALONG WITH THE KUWAITI BABY INCUBATOR PSYOP.

Not the sort of Democrats i can support.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

19. It was Jimmy Carter who began the push to deregulate the airlines, trucking, and railways.

We were better off under Carter, before NAFTA and a slew of other deregulation moves supported by both parties.

[Alex4Martinez]

22. If Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton told you to jump off a bridge, would you?

It doesn't lessen Clinton's culpability that some deregulation was seen under Carter's administration.

Now is the time to ask what we must and should do, not what can we get away with.

Aim high, like Bernie Sanders.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

30. Your logic is flawed.

We were better off under Carter, before NAFTA and a slew of other deregulation moves supported by both parties.


-You

It was Jimmy Carter who began the push to deregulate the airlines, trucking, and railways.


-Me

I was merely making an empirical observation. I wasn't making a normative judgment.

[Alex4Martinez]

33. Fair enough. I just don't want to lose ground. Obama turned this around, a little...

And I don't see Clinton continuing on his path of gradual reform.

Sorry for jumping on you for that, but if we want to even stay even we're going to need to aim higher than we would be with Hillary at the helm.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

35. I respect Jimmy Carter very much...

I just find the revisionism associated with his presidency interesting. At the time he was considered the most conservative Democratic president since Grover Cleveland. That is why Senate liberals urged Ted Kennedy to run against him and he did. His post presidency has been a heck of a lot more liberal than his presidency.

[Gregorian]

7. It depends. If the gate is over a mile away, then the gatehouse should be at least 2000 sq ft.

And it should be brick, and two stories. After all, the gatekeeper has an important job. Wouldn't want the riffraff getting on to the grounds.

/may actually be guilty of capitalist greed myself

[HooptieWagon]

8. Are they inside or outside the walls?

[Donald Ian Rankin]

9. One fourth the size of a servant, obviously. N.T.

[OilemFirchen]

13. The same size as a regular quarter.

Why? Are you afraid you might get one in your change?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. I am more concerned about re-education camps and gulags.

I met a man who was one of the Boat people. It takes a lot for me to cry but his harrowing tale of life in a re-education camp almost had me in tears. They let him out after five years.

[cherokeeprogressive]

21. Re-education camps and gulags, where? In this country? You're not serious, Shirley.

[OilemFirchen]

25. My stepfather is a Holocaust survivor.

After the war, he returned to his native Hungary until the Russian occupation. He fled on foot through Austria and eventually found sponsors to assist him in relocating here. I just recently found his "United States Escapee Program" bag in the attic. It was filled with packs of cigarettes which he, by habit, used as currency.

His first job was plucking chickens. He lived in a flophouse. When I was a kid, his best friends were servants to a wonderful woman - a former Republican bigwig in Ohio.

Everything is relative. His experiences helped shape my psyche - part of which is to be rudely dismissive of young punks who whine about their lot in life here in the fascistic, oligarchic, corporatist U.S. of A.

Tangent over, I think...

[greatauntoftriplets]

29. Excellent post.

[OilemFirchen]

34. It's his story, of course.

But here's a man who has known Nazis. Real ones. He's known Fascists. Actual ones. He's known the Secret Police. He's lived under Communist rule. So I always take his word over those whose perspective is shaped by a medicine chest full of bromides.

And now, at 94, he's bedridden as a result of an injury sustained during a brief stay in a nursing home. I can't get a goddamned lawyer to return my calls concerning a tort. Meanwhile, a right-wing, xenophobic, racist political party can find a leftist attorney to help them gain access to the California Democratic Primary ballot because Bernie.

I have nothing in common with these people.

[greatauntoftriplets]

36. I have cousins in Luxembourg who lived under Nazi occupation --real ones, as you say.

I should say "had" because the ones old enough to remember are no longer alive.

While they didn't live through the horrors that your father did under the Nazis and later the Communists, the stories they've told me are ones of oppression, fear, want and -- at times -- joy at outwitting the enemy.

I hope that you get satisfaction from the nursing home, you and he deserve it for the mistreatment he received.

Like you, I don't use my vote to enable Republicans.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. When I was a kid my mom and dad had friends who were Holocaust survivors.

My maternal grandparents left Russia in 1905, one step ahead of the latest pogrom.

All i know is all attempts to subvert the popular will ends in misery.

[thesquanderer]

18. Cryptic. What's your point?

If you're living in the White House, the size of the servants' quarters are already determined...

[greatauntoftriplets]

20. I have no idea.

The butler manages the men's and women's dormitories, which are in the attic. I never go up there, too musty and it makes me sneeze.

[MyNameGoesHere]

23. Well big enough to stable their unicorns of course.

[tazkcmo]

26. this servant moved. n/t

[stonecutter357]

27. How big should servant quarters be?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servants'_quarters

[Contrary1]

28. My servants have the entire barn...

well; except for the side the cats stay in.

[Txbluedog]

32. Servants have quarters?

I thought they magically evaporated the second they were out of my sight