2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum"I don't think he's had a single negative ad run against him," Clinton said (correct wording)
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[Is 'Stronger Together' the New Clinton Slogan?]
Is 'Stronger Together' the New Clinton Slogan? 2:11
Former Sec. Hillary Clinton may have just unveiled her general campaign slogan or, at the least, her campaign's guiding principle.
When asked on NBC's "Meet the Press" what the "big idea" of her candidacy is she replied, "Look, we are stronger together. We are stronger together, in facing our internal challenges and our external ones."
She then went on to repeat the phrase "stronger together" three more times.
In fairness, "stronger together" is not a completely new theme. The campaign put a web video out with that title in April. She also often uses the phrase on the trail in the context of comprehensive immigration reform and in the same breath when she draws a contrast with Trump.
However, her focus on it could point to the campaign sidelining "Fighting for Us" in favor of a line that could be seen as a subtle rebuke to some of what Donald Trump has said on the campaign trail. But Clinton was not understated about her desire to move beyond the Democratic primary and focus on Trump. In the battle of slogans, she had this to say:
[Clinton: Trump Has 'No Ideas About Making America Great']
Clinton: Trump Has 'No Ideas About Making America Great' 1:51
"There's no evidence he has any ideas about making America great, as he advertises. He seems to be particularly focused on making himself appear great. And as we go through this campaign, we're going to be demonstrating the hollowness of his rhetoric."
And to a question about whether there is anything in Trump's background that is "praiseworthy", Clinton responded coyly, "We'll find out. Because we have to get below the hype. We have to find what the reality is." She also attacked him for not releasing his tax returns and proving "that he actually has the level of success he claims to have."
"I'M IN A STRONGER POSITION"
Clinton, while not backing away from her declaration that she is "going to be the nominee", did sound as though she was trying to be sympathetic to Sen. Bernie Sanders' situation.
"I think that Senator Sanders has every right to finish off his campaign however he chooses. I do think there will then be the obvious need for us to unify the party. I faced the same challenge in 2008," the former Secretary of State said.
She promised to do her part and reach out to Sanders' and his supporters but that she expects him to do his part as well.
"He said
he was going to spend seven days a week trying to defeat Donald Trump and I believe that is the case," she said.
But there may still be some frustration behind her talk of party unity.
"I don't think he's had a single negative ad run against him," Clinton said when asked if she thought Sanders has been "vetted". ................
www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/hillary-clinton-questions-trump-s-level-success-n578246
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,370 posts)Anyone who disagrees is either new at this or willfully blind.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Once again she is caught in an outright lie. She has a problem with the truth and that is a big reason I can not vote for her. She just is not honest or trustworthy. Good thing my state will not matter. I will vote down ticket.
riversedge
(70,204 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Arneoker
(375 posts)You or someone else may have something. Then again, you may not.
But just calling her a liar, because hey, everyone knows she's a liar, is just completely bogus. People who put out such bogus stuff all of the time have a problem with the truth.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #17)
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w4rma
(31,700 posts)Adel, Iowa (CNN)Hillary Clinton's campaign released an ad in Iowa comparing the former secretary of state to Sen. Bernie Sanders, subtly dinging him on health care, guns and Planned Parenthood, according to Kantar Media/CMAG.
The ad, which ran in Des Moines on Wednesday morning, questions Sanders' ability to "actually make a difference for you," while casting Clinton as the person "with the experience and determination to get the job done."
"The time has come to make a choice, about which candidate can actually make a difference for you," a narrator says.
While Clinton has stepped up the attacks on Sanders in the last two weeks, she has vacillated between knocking the Vermont senator, who is running close with Clinton in Iowa, and pushing her own platform and message.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/27/politics/hillary-clinton-ad-bernie-sanders/
At best this is debatable as an anti-Sanders attack ad. The article says he is not mentioned by name. Now there are some implied references to him, but also references which clearly have nothing to do with him.
It would be fair to bring up an ad like this in challenging her or spokespersons for the campaign concerning what she said, and ask how they would explain it. But I just can't get too excited about it, as the Bernie people haven't been all that excited about his record on gun control and such.
w4rma
(31,700 posts)Arkansas Granny
(31,515 posts)w4rma
(31,700 posts)The only way that she can attack Sanders is by outright lying about his record. Even on guns, where he has a stronger general election position than she does, she still has to lie on that issue, too.
Her attack ads are all attacking strawmen versions of Sanders that she makes up, out of thin air.
Sancho
(9,067 posts)this is an attack ad (not by Hillary):
Bernie has be essentially untouched by Hillary.
w4rma
(31,700 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)In fact, many of her supporters have used the crap from the negative ads run against him on this very board. The shit about him supporting pedophiles, for example.
But that "Stronger Together" crap makes me laugh. Stronger to do what? Smash the middle class once and for all?
msongs
(67,405 posts)w4rma
(31,700 posts)He can go on FOX News and he doesn't pander, or lie, to them. He's respected and trusted, by everyone except the idiots who believe Clinton's and the far-right's smear campaigns against him.
Clinton has none of these traits. She would get herself booed off the Liberty University state. And she can't counter false criticism, so she can't handle FOX News, either.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)She was proud she works with the real republicans
think
(11,641 posts)snuck into it instead.
The CFMA bill which was authored in part by Hillary's chief economic adviser & former Goldman Sachs partner, Gary Gensler who was a member of the Bill Clinton administration at the time the CFMA was snuck into the spending bill.
President Bill Clinton signed the CFMA into law when signing the omnibus spending bill.
Wednesday, 20 January 2016 00:00
By The Daily Take Team, The Thom Hartmann Program
~Snip~
But here's the thing: Hillary Clinton isn't telling a true story about Bernie Sanders and his vote for the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, or CFMA.
As Robert Scheer has pointed out over at Truthdig, then-Congressman Sanders voted for the CFMA, not because he wanted to, but because he had to.
The CFMA had been shoved into an omnibus spending bill at the last minute as part of a deal between Republicans and President Bill Clinton, and because this was a time when, you know, Congress actually did its job, Sanders bit the bullet and voted for the whole package - CFMA included - to keep the government open.
Only four members of Congress ended up opposing the final spending bill that included the CFMA, and one of them was Ron Paul, who opposed pretty much every spending bill. But that's just of the tip of the iceberg when it comes to how dishonest Clinton was being when she called Bernie out for voting for the CFMA...
Read more:
http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/34497-the-most-disingenuous-attack-on-bernie-yet
Henhouse
(646 posts)Sanders said his 2006 Senate campaign was brutal. He couldn't think of any vetting during this national campaign for the Presidency....
BootinUp
(47,143 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Bernie is the GOP's main man.
tgards79
(1,415 posts)...Bernie does well in the polls versus Trump. Hillary has been very gentle on him, and of course the GOP has ignored him. HRC has been completely slammed and slimed by FOX and the GOP for 25 years. If Bernie was actually nominated, the GOP woould have a field day with "I am a Democratic Socialist" and the cost (independently assessed) of single-payer and surely a bunch of Swift-Boat-esque lies that he would have to defend.....pffffftttt there go those poll numbers.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)CanadaexPat
(496 posts)from Brock and Clinton, epitomized by the faux outrage over how many guns from Vermont were used in crimes in NYC. The fact that she had to stretch so far to be negative proves that there's just not a lot to work with when it comes to Bernie.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Campaign slogans ain't much for content because content is what is supposed to be settled long before a run for office. Slogans can then resonate with the public. Trouble is, the Democratic Party has run fast & far from "content" since it went corporate that "stronger together" is just more passion-less bureau-speak.
And that is why there is a real revolt in this election.
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)that is un-vetted, just since 2008. There's a lot of baggage available that hasn't even been touched yet.