New Video of Nevada Dem Convention Shows Someone May Have Been Hit By Chair

[workinclasszero]

New Video of Nevada Dem Convention Shows Someone May Have Been Hit By Chair
Bernie Sanders says "nobody was touched." Not so fast.
TOMMY CHRISTOPHER 2 HOURS AGO

Apparently, the fact that they clearly acted like assholes and scared the shit out of Nevada State Democratic officials isn't enough for some Bernie Sanders supporters, who have become really fixated on proving nobody actually threw chairs. Bernie Sanders himself has gotten in on the act, telling George Stephanopoulos that no chairs were thrown, and that his supporters were just "rude" and "boorish," as well as another claim that new video evidence disproves:



http://thedailybanter.com/2016/05/new-video-of-nevada-dem-convention-shows-someone-may-have-been-hit-by-chair/

[floriduck]

1. It's sort of like pissin up a rope. Give it up.

[riversedge]

6. A mob rushing the stage, yelling and screaming B**at a US Senator is bound to be scary.

[TheBlackAdder]

11. Yeah, the dozen armed sheriffs officers were just a bunch of cardboard standees. What bullshit!

[Baobab]

102. You are nuts- there is no chair throwing there.

stop playing this stupid game.

[seabeyond]

108. chairs were raised in aggression. Don't pretend otherwise. The mob was aggressive and intimidating.

Not all of us live in that world nor should we have in that world to participate in a Democratic caucus. That simple. Defend and support Sanders, not this behavior.

[cui bono]

133. So no chair throwing. Since that's settled, what did you think about the undemocratic behavior

of Lange? How do you feel about not allowing a recount? About changing rules right then and there without a proper vote?

.

[seabeyond]

134. Aggressive intimidating behavior cannot be dismissed. I already laid out to you what happened in

NV.

It was a whole lot of Sanders supporters pumped ahead of time ready to start problems. I already gave you the facts. Mob behavior because they did not get to flip a legitimate vote. Collective tantrums.

[tazkcmo]

59. So delicate!

You should be frightened. We're upsetting your apple cart. Tough toe nails.

[JimDandy]

72. So, again, NO EVIDENCE OF VIOLENCE.

If Hillary Clinton can't take the righteous anger from Sanders supporters upset at democracy being buried by the Democratic Conservatives in Cinton's wing of the party, then Clinton will never make it through the GE against the Trump Republicans

[grossproffit]

2. Wow. That was scary to watch.

[workinclasszero]

3. Scary as hell

Don't tell me that wasn't a riot!

And don't tell me Sen Boxer and the chair were not afraid for their safety!

Damn what an out of control mob!!!!

[grossproffit]

4. Mob is right. Shameful.

[workinclasszero]

5. So this is Sanders supporters idea of democracy???

Count me right outta that shit!

[timmymoff]

31. We counted you out of anything really

due to the fact that Hillary supporters aren't willing to fight for anything accept business as usual. At least I counted you out, I'm sure thousands of others have as well.

[Juicy_Bellows]

87. + bunch. NT.

[seabeyond]

7. I hadn't seen a video like that, and mostly stayed out of this. To suggest that the people on the

stage should not have been bothered, and can in anyway be blamed, is amazing to me after seeing such bad behavior on the part of supposed fellow Dems.

[workinclasszero]

10. IKR?

How can anyone defend that?!

I bet everyone on that stage was afraid for their lives!

[seabeyond]

12. I do not know how anyone can defend, justify, excuse or dismiss that crowd. From start to finish. Nt

[workinclasszero]

98. No wonder the hotel called the cops in

I cant wait for more footage of this riot to come out.

I hope the hotel security cameras got the whole violent tantrum from beginning to end!

Maybe its already out there but being held back for a special occasion?

[seabeyond]

105. I really had not watched any of the videos. Most just discussed and got informed what

the Democratic party had done, and the demands being made from Sanders people. You know, the facts. But, seeing that video this afternoon, I truly am surprised anyone would defend or excuse it. Stand up for your candidate, support. But, we can do that and still say no to behavior like this.

[workinclasszero]

112. Right berners have been trying to sweep it under

the rug. But in the aftermath of Chairgate...the Nevada berner riot..whatever, vandalism occurred and death threats were made against the dem officials and her grandkids.

Lawless crap like that is not going to come from people raising their voices a little to demand special rights.

But stuff like that from a violent mob? Yeah it fits.

[cui bono]

22. Oh, the horror!!!

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[cherokeeprogressive]

127. Don't you absolutely LOVE the breathless exclamations of shock and shame?

Swoon!

[pmorlan1]

8. And the twisted narrative goes on

This is really pathetic. I do, however, love how they turned up the volume in this video. Nice touch.

I guess not being content to have driven away many, many Sanders supporters they are now trying to get the rest of us to not vote for Hillary. I'm beginning to wonder if these people are pro-Hillary or pro-Trump? Why would pro-Hillary people insult voters she needs in November?

[mac56]

9. Someone MAY have been.

Go ahead and keep spending hundreds and hundreds of hours analyzing the images, Zapruder-film style.

[reformist2]

13. Now we're not allowed to even scream or shout, when our rights are taken away??? Blank that!

[seabeyond]

14. Rights weren't taken away but Sanders supporters shouting so all the rest could not participate.

I would have walked too as any rational grown up would with the tantrum unfolding.

[cui bono]

21. Who are you and what have you done with seabeyond?

Is she okay? Should we call the authorities?

.

[nadinbrzezinski]

39. Once again politics can be rought

and get out of control as it were. Please, never ever become a delegate, or attend a city council meeting

[seabeyond]

44. Issue is not what can happen. Its how we deal. Excusing, justifying, dismissing isnt progressive way

[nadinbrzezinski]

47. Alas I am telling you the reality

not the lets destroy the oppression, or whatever, this i show rough politics can get. In fact, ours are not dangerous enough. At least they have not been in a while, It is not like we have had any recent canings in the House of Representatives.

But seriously, this looks bad, but it is actually somewhat tame.

[seabeyond]

50. Reality is Naden, progressive do not excuse/dismiss sexist/racist slurs, tell people on the verge

of violence is ok. I made very specific statements. You come back that it is cool to call Obama the N word. I disagree.

AS a progressive.

[nadinbrzezinski]

53. I cover this shit

and you are not progressive, You are using that word to try to gaslight me, Good luck with that one. I cover this shit. Now if you want SAFE SPACES in politics, include the cookies and the mint please.

And a United States Senator, who is not precisely new to this game flipped the bird, and told people FUCK YOU.

And I am not at all going OH THE HORROR... It is what it is, rowdy, emotional close to the heart, FUCKING POLITICS... Stay home, I mean it.

[seabeyond]

57. AGAIN with the weak if I won't allow myself to be physically intimidated while voting.

Hell of a lot more progressive then people standing with this mentality.

[nadinbrzezinski]

58. Alas I an not the one going loyalty oaths

in fact, I will vote for whoever the central tabulator decided i voted for.

It is what it is

[seabeyond]

60. Geez, Lol. What ever.

[nadinbrzezinski]

61. Point to ONE POST OF MINE

saying who I will vote for, or demanding you vote for a candidate. That you have done, and that my dear, is not progressive, there is another word I am looking for... it starts with an A

Ok ok, you will vote for Mickey Mouse! You hear me! I understand the mouse runs a great shop, and mainstream is paritcularly clean.



Now who will the Mouse pick for his VEEP?

[R B Garr]

51. Exactly, and it was all planned by the Berners. They just wanted to shout down

and intimidate people. It was quite a tantrum.

[seabeyond]

54. Yet our fellow Democrats tell us voters we must endure physical intimidation in order to participate

What progressive says things like that.

No longer bring children to participate in the right to campaign and vote, and by gosh, if our old bodies get in the way while we are voting? Tough shit. Do not go out and vote.

What world is this?

[R B Garr]

63. And it all looks very staged. They are not fooling anyone. Now they badger the press

and others to shut up about it. It's a lot of victim roll playing so they can pretend to have a moral authority, but it's all phony.

SMH.

[Electric Monk]

15. Robert's Rules Of Order: Silence means consent. They had a DUTY to speak out.

http://www.robertsrules.org/

[Quixote1818]

16. No kidding. If this had been flipped around 8 years ago and this had happened to Hillary supporters

when she started to fall behind. You can't tell me they would not have (rightly so) acted the same way.

[ucrdem]

25. It did happen, at least the perception did, but there was no riot, just a lone rant by Harriet C. nt

[kerry-is-my-prez]

120. I don't think people should be acting like thugs. It especially galls me when it's thuggish men

doing it against women, children, or those less strong than them. Surprised anyone here condones it. This is NOT a Republican site.

[workinclasszero]

100. I just see a howling mob trying to impose its will

in a violent and outrageous manner.

Screaming FU BITCH and other 'progressive' phrases.

[hrmjustin]

17. Appalling behavior. That disruption was planned.

[cui bono]

20. If it was planned it was planned by the instigators which would be Lange herself.

[frylock]

65. "This was planned" is the Brocking point du jour.

[hrmjustin]

84. Oh brock boogeyman.

[ucrdem]

26. I agree, right down to the provocative graphics that led to the calls. nt

[snowy owl]

73. That's call democracy in action. You don't see much of it in US anymore. Too bad.

Like sheep, we follow the money.

[workinclasszero]

103. I bet they are planning something for Philly

too.

[hrmjustin]

104. No doubt.

[Scuba]

18. There's nothing in the video that suggests anyone was violent.

Camp Weathervane attacked Bernie's policies, but that backfired.

Then they attacked Bernie's character, but that backfired too.

Now they're attacking Bernie's supporters. Pathetic.

[cui bono]

19. omgz!!!

Could you have found a more hate filled site to get this from? I don't think so.

This OP is pathetic. Let it go. It's over. Nothing that you are trying to say happened happened. The wrong doing there was the thwarting of democracy. Why do you care less about democracy than you care about swiftboating Sanders supporters?

The responses in this OP are comical and pathetic. You all should be ashamed of yourselves. Seriously.

Just when you thought things could not get more ridiculous. You guys are trying so damn hard to make this into something but there is no there there.

.

[hobbit709]

24. Op has the right user name-he cares 0 about the working class

[YouDig]

23. So the chair truthers have been wrong along, like everyone already knew.

[ucrdem]

27. It's a miracle there weren't more injuries and if this wasn't Vegas I imagine the hotel

would have released a detailed account by now supported by surveillance video. Ditto the local constabulary. I've attended state party nominating conventions and never, ever in my life seen anything like this. Truly a miracle it didn't end tragically.

[R B Garr]

46. It was the hotel who said they couldn't provide security anymore.

Speaking of hotels.

[ucrdem]

55. Which they're not going to post to their Facebook page along with the latest from Alex Jones.

Obviously, the likelihood is that there are security videos somewhere. But locating them, obtaining rights to them from the hotel, and posting them to the twitterverse is going to take some time.

[nadinbrzezinski]

62. Excuses excsues

[R B Garr]

56. The hotel said they could not provide security. Was that also a conspiracy?

And who wouldn't think police backup would arrive if the Paris Hotel in Las Vegas cannot provide security at one of their own events. That pretty much says it all.

[R B Garr]

66. LOL, now you are showing proof of exactly what I was saying!

LOL that you don't realize that. The hotel could not provide security anymore. Is the Paris Hotel in Las Vegas also part of the big grand conspiracy to pick on Sanders supporters?

And LMAO that you post proof of the violence with one of the Security personnel bending over an altercation.

Yeah, pass the popcorn! Thanks for the photos! I'll enjoy the epic meltdowns, myself.

[R B Garr]

71. Again. It was the Paris Hotel who said they could no longer provide security.

You provided a picture of a security person bending over an obvious physical altercation or someone on the ground for some reason. You provided proof of what I was saying -- thank you.

And how petty and mean-spirited to say you will enjoy watching people lose their "shit" in the summer. How mean-spirited and nasty can you get. If I said I will enjoy watching Bernie people get beaten down and demoralized, my posts would be hidden. You are something else.

[R B Garr]

76. You provided evidence of a security person bending over an obvious altercation or

emergency of some type. The Paris Hotel said they could not provide enough of that security. Then you posted a picture of local police there. Did the Hotel say they cannot provide additional security as some big conspiracy against Sanders?

And if I said I will enjoy watching Bernie people be demoralized in the summer, my posts would be hidden. You obviously think it's okay to be nasty like that.

[R B Garr]

80. How nasty. If I said I can't wait to see Bernie supporters demoralized and marginalized

in the summer, my posts would be hidden.

So is the Paris Hotel in on the big grand conspiracy to pick on Bernie supporters? Or did the pictures you, yourself, posted show that there was enough physical intimidation and threat to warn the convention participants that the hotel security wasn't enough for the situation. Any ideas?

[nadinbrzezinski]

83. Self deleting

I forgot...

[Kelvin Mace]

28. Once again, no police reports

no video, no hospital reports, just more headlines about what MAY have happened, but we really have no proof.

[ucrdem]

29. Now we have proof. It's posted in the article, also directly below. nt

[ucrdem]

30. Direct video links:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4bzo7i_new-video-of-nevada-dem-convention-might-explain-reports-of-chair-throwing_news

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4bzp7u_nevada-incident-three-views_news

[Kelvin Mace]

67. It's like watching the Zapruder film, but without the actual assassination

Lots of yelling, profanity, and some guys lifts a chair and puts it back down.

What the frack will you folks do when HRC has to confront actual violent Trump supporters?

[DrDan]

32. I've had 2 DUers tell me today that it was more of a

patriotic Boston Tea Party kind of behavior rather than the bullying, boorish behavior I mistook it for.

Their patriotism should be celebrated.

[seabeyond]

34. "verge of violence" I was told, and still... thumbs up. Do not participate if you do not want

"verge of violence" .

Talk abut fucked up.

Oh, and as a progressive if you think sexist and racist slurs are wrong? You are looking for a "safe" place. These are people arguing they are the "true" progressives.

Intimidation of physical threat, misogyny and racism are true progressive values. Just means they are passionate.

[nadinbrzezinski]

82. Nobody said these are values

You were told that this is precisely what happens when politics gets hot. My goodness, really. You seem to be either new or naive. I was the one who told you this, and I have been in more than a few places where yes, it spirals out of control.

In fact, next Friday, we expect the Donald and the riot that goes along, to come to town. None expects a safe space on that one.

[seabeyond]

88. I told you not about what happened, but excusing or dismissing as progressives. Round and round...

[nadinbrzezinski]

92. YOu are confusing being aware of facts and human nature

with excusing or dismissing, I am talking about reality, not whatever textbook you are drawing that from. Angry people do stuff, even swear... and there was plenty of angry people there. Including a US Senator, sitting and all, flipping the bird, and telling people FUCK YOU, That is politics.

My goodness, did you know the US HOUSE broke into some bedlam the other day? I know becuase I pay attention to this crap. SHAME, for SHAME< the Republcians broke the usual rules of how you change votes, and kept the voting open. I posted that story, and as usual, not surprising me one bit. it was ignored here.

So do you address a US Senator going FUCK YOU, and giving the middle finger? Or are you just annoyed about the Sanders supporters getting angry after Roberts Rules of Order were violated ten ways to Sunday? Would you like to address how we got to people screaming and a US Senator going FUCK YOU?

Because that was the symptom of a much larger problem. I expect you to ignore the larger reason

[seabeyond]

94. You said we are weak calling out sexist/racist slurs. As a progressive, I disagree.

[nadinbrzezinski]

95. You as usual interpreted what you were told the way you want

regardless, when you break glass ceilings, language is the least of your issues. I have done that. So spare me. I do not consider you a progressive, just married to the language, and I do not consider you a real fighter. I am being brutally honest here.

So you are ok with a United States Senator flipping the bird and going FUCK YOU? I mean if you are so annoyed by mere language, that should annoy you too. It does not annoy me, since I understand what is going on there.

[frylock]

33. You poor, delicate flowers are going to be eaten alive by Trump and his supporters.

[nadinbrzezinski]

42. I am not looking forwards to FRIDAY

[frylock]

137. Will you be covering that event, Nadin?

Stay safe!

[nadinbrzezinski]

138. Yeah, ordered a new inhaler, checked over the gear yesterady

got a first aid kit for the tac gear, as well as a case for the phone,

I will start stetting that either tonight or tomorrow.

We are going to that expecting a riot.

[tandot]

93. We expect this behavior from ignorant and boorish Trump supporters

We didn't expect to be attacked by "democrats"

[frylock]

111. You aren't being attacked.

You're going to learn what being attacked is really like once Trump turns on the charm.

[tandot]

115. OMG ... now I am really scared

Don't worry ... it was a valuable lesson ... now we can deal with your BS ...

[highprincipleswork]

35. Lack of evidence. But interesting to see you'll give up democracy so easily. Take it away from me

and I think I have the right to throw chairs and worse.

[ucrdem]

36. Actually the videos show that democracy prevailed over a violent attempt to disrupt it. nt

[highprincipleswork]

52. Absolutely not.

[joshcryer]

37. The chair was obviously wrestled away.

Wouldn't surprise me if someone got hit.

[ucrdem]

38. Sanders' claim that there was no violence when clearly there was is going to haunt him.

Once this hits CNN he's going to wish he'd stayed in Italy because the fallout won't be pleasant.

[nadinbrzezinski]

40. That video is so bad

and I have seen bad videos, that I cannot tell a thing beyond a really rowdy event. You are acting like you are new to politics, What is next, safe spaces?

Here gluten free cookie.

I cover politics, this was not scarier than city council, in fact my city council has been scarier.

[nadinbrzezinski]

45. TV cameras are at time kept out of party proceedings under privacy laws

but the Casino has that hotel covered, every inch

[sufrommich]

49. Nobody outside of the most ardent Bernie fans watches

these videos and doesn't see a bunch of Sanders supporters acting like massive assholes.

[Kelvin Mace]

69. Oh, I see assholes,

and I am a Sanders supporter. What I DON'T see is the "near-riot" or "thrown chairs" or "fist fights" or "death threats" reported by the media and HRC supporters.

[nadinbrzezinski]

75. I see rowdy emotional politics

if the shoe was flipped as it were, it would be the other side doing that.

My goodness, this is raw, emotional politics, and it is not at it's worst. It is not like a fist to cuffs broke out (like the Italian Parliament some years back), I am far from shocked. I have been in city council meetings that actually have been rougher than this.

[sufrommich]

78. You realise that it was the casino security who decided

the convention was spiraling out of control,right? They called the cops. The only claim of death threats I've heard were from the woman who was the convention chair,who received death threats on her home phone.

[w4rma]

97. No it wasn't. It was the fraudulent Chair who went looking for an excuse to steal Nevada. (nt)

[Kelvin Mace]

135. And yet no police reports, no investigation

Sure, recordings of the calls and transcripts have been released, and anyone who made death threats should be prosecuted to maximum penalty, but not a word on such actions.

People claim violence occurred, yet, no evidence of the violence. The chair gets spooked because people shouted, and suddenly "Bernie Thugs" is the message of the day. Actually, people are still trying to sell the message even after the journos involved have been forced to admit they cannot substantiate their claims.

[JimDandy]

79. It's a tough job defending democracy

and Sanders supporters apparently are the only ones up to the job in the Democratic Party.

And: NO EVIDENCE OF VIOLENCE. (I know, that's just steaming all you Hillary supporters who backed the idiot Ralston's made up claims)

[sufrommich]

81. They weren't "defending democracy". God,the self

important claptrap being rolled out to defend this mess is spectacular.

[JimDandy]

90. Yes, they were

and that you can't even see that is why you are a Hillary supporter.

It was disgusting that Clinton, Lange and Reid, desperate not to lose Nevada at the State level, engineered and proposed a really egregious rule to make null and void ALL OF THE VOTES at every Dem County Convention in the state, in order to favor Clinton. It is UNPRECEDENTED for any state Democratic Party to throw out all the votes, statewide, from a lower convention level.

UNPRECEDENTED.

[sufrommich]

99. Bullshit. Here's the report from Politifact:

http://www.politifact.com/nevada/statements/2016/may/18/jeff-weaver/allegations-fraud-and-misconduct-nevada-democratic/



Let me guess,Politifact is in on the conspiracy to deny Sanders the delegates he didn't earn too.

[TwilightZone]

131. Yeah, that's the latest meme, actually.

Politifact started at the Tampa Bay Times.

The Tampa Bay Times endorsed Hillary.

Therefore, the Tampa Bay Times is a fully-funded arm of the Clinton campaign.

I wish I were joking. I've seen variations of that a dozen times today.

[seabeyond]

91. By intimidation and bullying, the verge of violence?

[JimDandy]

96. By standing up for what is right, just and fair.

The bullying happened when Clinton, Lange and Reid, desperate not to lose Nevada at the State level, engineered and proposed a really egregious rule to make null and void ALL OF THE VOTES at every Dem County Convention in the state, in order to favor Clinton. It is UNPRECEDENTED for any state Democratic Party to throw out all the votes, statewide, from a lower convention level.

UNPRECEDENTED.

[seabeyond]

101. I saw the video. Aggressive and intimidating on the verge of violence. Not ok.

[JimDandy]

110. NO EVIDENCE OF VIOLENCE. UNPRECEDENTED for the Democratic Party to throw out all the votes

of every voter at the Nevada County Convention level. It's Indefensible, which is why not a single Hillary supporter, including you, says word one to defend it, because it's so fucking corrupt and shameful, but you want your candidate to win at any cost.

[seabeyond]

113. "the verge of violence'. At what point are people allowed to be bothered? Intimidation,

aggressive behavior, disgusting sexist slurs. When are people allowed to feel threatened as a mob of aggressive young men are pushing at the metal stoppers? At the point of being hit? Is that the ONLY point, that there is a problem?

Really?

[JimDandy]

114. UNPRECEDENTED throwing out of votes. At what point is it OK to have our democracy stolen from us?

Hillary Clinton, Roberta Lange, Harry Reid and you, all Clinton supporters, have made it abundantly clear that the point appears to be when it's your opponent's candidate who receives the immediate harm from such a disgusting act. And fuck all the rest of us whose votes were thrown out.

Rah, Rah Hillary for subverting democracy, because you are winning!!!!

[seabeyond]

116. That isn't factually true, so not only was the behavior horrendous and should always be challenged.

They should have learned the fact before throwing their fit.

[JimDandy]

117. Please enlighten me with your version of the facts. n/t

[seabeyond]

122. Pretty sure you do not care about facts, but ok....

* Based on the county convention results, Bernie Sanders had 2,124 delegate slots to the State Convention and Hillary Clinton had 1,722 delegate slots to the State Convention.

* On Saturday at the State Convention, after all of the alternates were seated, Hillary Clinton filled 1,695 of her delegate slots and Bernie Sanders only filled 1,662 at the State Convention — giving Clinton a 33-delegate margin of victory.

* Clinton only had 27 delegate positions vacant on Saturday. Sanders left 462 vacant. Clinton filled 98 percent of her available delegate slots at the State Convention, and Sanders only filled 78 percent of his available delegate slots.

* In plain terms, the Clinton campaign organized and got nearly all of their delegates to the State Convention. The Sanders campaign did not.

On the false and wildly inaccurate accusations that there were 64 potential Sanders delegates in question who were “denied” by the State Convention’s Credentials Committee on Saturday:

* Six of the 64 potential delegates were seated as delegates after investigation.

* The remaining potential delegates were ineligible for two main reasons: 1) They were not registered Democratic voters in Nevada by May 1, 2016, and 2) Their information — such as address, date of birth and name — could not be found or identified, and they did not respond to requests from the party and campaigns to correct it.

* Only eight of the ineligible delegates even attempted to register at the State Convention.

* The so-called “minority report” about these ineligible delegates was not written by the Credentials Committee — it was written by national Sanders campaign staff on site. A member of Sanders’ National Delegate Operations Team drafted and arranged for a member of that committee to attempt to deliver an incendiary report that caused chaos and violence at the convention. It was inaccurate, misleading and subsequently discredited by the Credentials Committee.

* The Credentials Committee, the panel that made decisions on these issues, was co-chaired by supporters of both campaigns and the membership of the committee was also equally divided between supporters of both campaigns. This was done to ensure that the entire process was fair, transparent and accountable for both campaigns and their supporters. The committee worked diligently and cooperatively all day, under incredibly trying circumstances, to be fair and impartial in its work.

[JimDandy]

125. NONE of that addressed what I brought up: Clinton's UNPRECEDENTED decision to introduce a rule

to throw out all votes from the County Convention level.

That anti-democratic proposal was the cornerstone for all the other crap you listed above. (Those have been discussed in detail by others many times elsewhere.)

[seabeyond]

126. Firstly, Clinton made no such rule.

[JimDandy]

128. That's all you have: "Firstly, Clinton made no such rule"

I'm disappointed. You were ready with a cut and paste of all the other shenanigans. Search your computer again. It was part and parcel of the very first wave of rule changes Roberta Lange put up for a vote at 9:30. I'll check back tomorrow.

[seabeyond]

140. I just do not give a shit. People that call themselves progressives has no issue with what I saw.

Like I would not stand around watching that disgusting behavior, I am not gonna stand around having a conversation with those that do not have any issue. I might as well be talking to my 6'2" kick ass, all his life RW Fox news watching brother having this conversation.

You do not care. I get that. I do not care, that you do not care. You are ones that feed this garbage and it continues on.

[AgingAmerican]

139. "on the verge of violence" means nothing

[uponit7771]

106. They're excusing their abusive behavior upthread, I'm totally turned off of the far left they seem

... to be the other side of the same coing

[snowy owl]

70. Get real. Saw no chair thrown. Did anyone find chair thrown? I'll look again if you say so.

Looks like picking up someone but no idea or any evidence if that's so or why anybody fell. Could have been pushed down in attempt to stop chair raiser. He didn't look like he was going to throw it. He just raised it. His frustration equals the frustration of the Clinton people trying to push a meme of which they have no evidence. You stop using good judgment.

So every time people boo the umpire, they're assholes?

[bigtree]

85. that is rather stunning footage

...no one in politics should be made to endure that kind of violent intimidation, much less at one of our conventions.

Watched that speaker hurry off stage and imagined myself in that position...pretty jarring what some people here are defending and deflecting from. I honestly wouldn't have known what was coming at me next if I was on that stage. Frightening. I've seen that kind of crowd violence at concerts, never in my adulthood at conventions.

[AgingAmerican]

86. Catapulting the stupid

[vintx]

121. And look how excited they are about it.

[Wash. state Desk Jet]

89. What the hell does Sander's think join the revolution means to very many angry peoples?

He speaks of it as though he is in a Peter, Paul & Mary day dream. Hay, you know, the answer is blowing in the wind.So too is Bernie Sanders. What you saw in the video is revolt and that is what comes with revolution. So who leads that revolution when the voting is done? Is that Bernie ?

[Tiggeroshii]

107. So picking up something and putting it down is now considered "throwing?"

This is the same video that is replayed by the media over and over. But nothing was ever "thrown."

[anotherproletariat]

109. Why does anyone agree on what it shows. I think we can all agree that it needs to be shown

far and wide, and to let people decide for themselves how they feel about this type of behavior. Only in an open society can we make informed decisions.

[vintx]

118. Wow what a shit website - why layer three video clips and combine the audio?

They wouldn't be trying to make the audio sound different, would they?



"Now, because Bernie Sanders supporters are shit at holding a camera still"

Ah, journalistic impartiality - how nice.

Keep trying, there are still a few people around who think more than a modicum of hillary supporters have a shred of integrity left.

[Eric J in MN]

119. I didn't see any projectiles in that video

...and certainly no thrown chairs.

[Number23]

123. I don't give the first frag about throwing chairs but rec'ing because this guy described

how "fixated" some Sanders supporters have become on disproving this INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT point!1 even when it's beyond clear that the chair throwing was the least of the deranged behavior they'd engaged in that day.

And he talks about these people in public much the same way most people do in priviate.

Apparently, the fact that they clearly acted like assholes and scared the shit out of Nevada State Democratic officials isn't enough for some Bernie Sanders supporters, who have become really fixated on proving nobody actually threw chairs.

...Now, because Bernie Sanders supporters are shit at holding a camera still, it's impossible to tell if she was hit by the chair, or took an elbow, but clearly she was knocked down, and required help getting up. The chair guy fucked off to the left, and someone completely unrelated to the fracas "hugged" his dumb ass. That's not "hugging it out," that's hit-and-run.

Good stuff.

[cherokeeprogressive]

124. LOL this dickhead blames Sanders supporters for his lack of proof someone was hit by a chair.

"Now, because Bernie Sanders supporters are shit at holding a camera still, it's impossible to tell if she was hit by the chair..."

Why read a single word past that?

[Rex]

129. And yet there was only one person arrested for violence and they were supporting HRC.

Keep trying to divide up that vote! Really pathetic.

[KelleyD]

130. Can't believe anyone would condon this kind of conduct!

[ChiciB1]

132. WOW, I Have Two Dogs Who KNOW When To Stop Chewing The Same Bone! n/t

[bigtree]

136. kick

[seabeyond]

141. Ya. I read three threads, Sanders escalating this shit. Lol. And then you go and kick this thread

they are certainly buying their firecrackers to set off. Lovely.