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We have reached "Anger." Only a step away. nt (Original Post) msanthrope May 2016 OP
We cannot have "anger" anymore. It's too dangerous. Maybe we should tranquilize everyone? reformist2 May 2016 #1
And your... On the verge of violence. Do explain. seabeyond May 2016 #5
No I'm not. Your post is uncalled for. reformist2 May 2016 #8
You said it in an OP. Am I wrong? I thought it was you. I will check and delete if it was another. seabeyond May 2016 #12
I was speaking about delegates in NV, many who seemed very angry. reformist2 May 2016 #17
I saw the video, hadn't seen before. Wasn't that interested. It was atrocious. Refusal to allow seabeyond May 2016 #23
The only anger I see is from a minority of supporters of a failed candidate. msanthrope May 2016 #11
Maybe you need a good pair of glasses. Armstead May 2016 #18
I just read a reply in a thread here pinebox May 2016 #2
To acceptance. Lordy let's get there. An op stating verge of violence is a right in participating on seabeyond May 2016 #3
I'm not justifying violence. But if you make anger unacceptable, you're going down a slippery slope. reformist2 May 2016 #6
You justified, excused, dismissed "verge of violence". seabeyond May 2016 #7
I said that this was probably the feeling of some in the crowd. But they restrained themselves. reformist2 May 2016 #13
Caucus... There to vote. People should be able to do tgat without threat to physical body. seabeyond May 2016 #15
Nobody was threatened. Many were scared by all the shouting, and they don't want to allow that. reformist2 May 2016 #22
You saw it... Don't back pedal, you saw what I did. Verge of violence. That is a threat. seabeyond May 2016 #27
Yelling,screaming, calling Boxer -a US Senator a B***h is not letting just speaking out -and doing riversedge May 2016 #29
You think Boxer is new to this? nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #32
It is ok to use sexist slurs toward our women? Is the N word cool toward Obama, because people are seabeyond May 2016 #34
You also need safe spaces? Of course you do nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #35
Do lecture me on what a progressive is. Oh, a bunch of young men aggressive yelling seabeyond May 2016 #36
Look lady, I have myself broken barriers nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #39
Look woman, you told me I was weak that progressives should have boundaries. Racist/sexist seabeyond May 2016 #40
Good luck with that nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #41
Good luck with what Naden? Expect to vote without threat to body? seabeyond May 2016 #42
Many of us will never accept Clinton. Fawke Em May 2016 #19
Who cares. Still no right throwing tantrums to the extent of on "the verge of violence". I do have seabeyond May 2016 #26
I'm not angry anymore. I expect Monday to be a very interesting day. IdaBriggs May 2016 #4
What happens Monday? Fawke Em May 2016 #20
Monday? Armstead May 2016 #21
Fitzmas? nt msanthrope May 2016 #37
I'm certainly angry. Shemp Howard May 2016 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #10
well I'm glad ya'll are getting there azurnoir May 2016 #14
Are you calling for something? if so then please don't keep us in suspense. insta8er May 2016 #16
One step away from what? lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #24
The next step will be laughter. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #25
Is this another unity post? Prism May 2016 #28
YAY, UNITY nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #30
Damn right we've reached anger. Aerows May 2016 #31
But WHAT a step. The anger, denial and just vituperative howling COLGATE4 May 2016 #33
The flameouts write themselves. nt msanthrope May 2016 #38
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
12. You said it in an OP. Am I wrong? I thought it was you. I will check and delete if it was another.
Sun May 22, 2016, 03:11 PM
May 2016
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
23. I saw the video, hadn't seen before. Wasn't that interested. It was atrocious. Refusal to allow
Sun May 22, 2016, 03:19 PM
May 2016

Speaker to talk, denying everyones right to process. The slurs, aggressiveness, intimidation and threat from mob... Is not something we have to put up with or accept. It is simple UNacceptable and tgere is no justifying tgat behavior. As an old woman I so not have to feel threatened to cast my vote or participate in the system.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
11. The only anger I see is from a minority of supporters of a failed candidate.
Sun May 22, 2016, 03:10 PM
May 2016

I suspect the Walt Starr approach will appeal to many of them.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
2. I just read a reply in a thread here
Sun May 22, 2016, 03:03 PM
May 2016

where one Hillary supporter is calling out to incite Bernie supporters into violence during the DNC.
You and I may not agree on much but that is seriously messed up....
People need to flippin' chill.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
3. To acceptance. Lordy let's get there. An op stating verge of violence is a right in participating on
Sun May 22, 2016, 03:05 PM
May 2016

Politics, exercising our right to vote. We have to gauge whether we are physically in threat because the verge of violence is acceptable. wtf has happened with these people to argue this.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
7. You justified, excused, dismissed "verge of violence".
Sun May 22, 2016, 03:08 PM
May 2016

Just not the actual violence. Intimidation? Fine. Bullying with physical threat? Fine.

Just do not follow tegu with violence. That argument makes sense?

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
13. I said that this was probably the feeling of some in the crowd. But they restrained themselves.
Sun May 22, 2016, 03:11 PM
May 2016

My point is that with real democracy you often see strong feelings. And some may be scared by that, but you have to let people speak out. If you don't trust the people to control themselves, then you are essentially a Republican at heart.

riversedge

(70,218 posts)
29. Yelling,screaming, calling Boxer -a US Senator a B***h is not letting just speaking out -and doing
Sun May 22, 2016, 03:26 PM
May 2016

it while Boxer was speaking was rude. Many Sanders supporters were out of line. How would like it if Clinton supporters had done that when Nina Turner was speaking.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
32. You think Boxer is new to this?
Sun May 22, 2016, 03:35 PM
May 2016

Because she did flip the crowd on the way out and she told "Fuck You."

Really, we need to have a conversation of how you all need safe spaces. and by all means, STAY AWAY from your board meetings, they can get actually more heated.

My goodness what you saw there was well, POLITICS

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
34. It is ok to use sexist slurs toward our women? Is the N word cool toward Obama, because people are
Sun May 22, 2016, 03:41 PM
May 2016

pissed?

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
35. You also need safe spaces? Of course you do
Sun May 22, 2016, 03:45 PM
May 2016

either you are new to politics, or you are pretending, but this is common. As to the terms used. damn it, that was not the worst I have ever heard at a heated meeting. In fact, while up there, it really was mild compared to some of it.

Do you need some lactaid and a gluten free cookie and nut free of course as well in that safe space of yours?

I cover politics, this was not that bad actually. It is fun when the cops produce flexi cuffs, gas masks and tear gas in city council and actually CITE people. They came THIS CLOSE to arresting people Since none was cited, this is normal heated politics

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
36. Do lecture me on what a progressive is. Oh, a bunch of young men aggressive yelling
Sun May 22, 2016, 03:53 PM
May 2016

Sexist/racist slurs. Regardless who you support nadin, some things remain a consistent which you fail in dismissing. First.

Second. I need a safe place? Fuck ya. I need a safe place to causus my vote where threat to physical body doesn't happen.

Are you suggesting that makes me weak not wanting to be a part of the threat of physical violence to vote?

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
39. Look lady, I have myself broken barriers
Sun May 22, 2016, 04:10 PM
May 2016

and language is the least of the problems you have when actually breaking into a male dominated environment, and I do not consider you a liberal or a progressive. There, I said it.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
40. Look woman, you told me I was weak that progressives should have boundaries. Racist/sexist
Sun May 22, 2016, 04:12 PM
May 2016

slurs are simply not ok and not a matter of a fuckin' "safe" place.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
41. Good luck with that
Sun May 22, 2016, 04:15 PM
May 2016

yup, safe space language. College kids do that often. So should I expect now talk of oppression and supremacy? Maybe methods of oppression?

In the real wold where I cover politics, that is not going happen. Good luck though, I mean it. What happened in Nevada was actually not as bad as I have seen. Once I was looking at the window, the only way out. It was fun.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
26. Who cares. Still no right throwing tantrums to the extent of on "the verge of violence". I do have
Sun May 22, 2016, 03:22 PM
May 2016

A right to participate without threat.

Shemp Howard

(889 posts)
9. I'm certainly angry.
Sun May 22, 2016, 03:08 PM
May 2016

The primaries are not over! No one has reached a pledged delegate majority, yet. Nevertheless, the establishment is calling for Sanders to give up and just go away. And Bernie's supporters are called "idiots" for not accepting that.

OK, I'm an idiot. I will continue to support Bernie, at least until the convention is over.

Response to msanthrope (Original post)

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
28. Is this another unity post?
Sun May 22, 2016, 03:25 PM
May 2016

Another voice from the comfortable for the status quo heard.

Then you'll wonder why people are irritable and pretend outrage when they react as all humans do.

Are you having fun?

It's like watching folks hearing they're allowed to put a boot in people's faces and rushing out to DSW to grab a pair.

Neat for you.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
31. Damn right we've reached anger.
Sun May 22, 2016, 03:29 PM
May 2016

The steps going forward are unlikely to take place the way you imagine they will.

"The arc of the moral universe is slow, but it bends towards justice." - MLK

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
33. But WHAT a step. The anger, denial and just vituperative howling
Sun May 22, 2016, 03:41 PM
May 2016

and alerting is over the damned top. Can't wait until June 7 when we can finally get some respite.

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