2016 Postmortem
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(9,841 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Speaker to talk, denying everyones right to process. The slurs, aggressiveness, intimidation and threat from mob... Is not something we have to put up with or accept. It is simple UNacceptable and tgere is no justifying tgat behavior. As an old woman I so not have to feel threatened to cast my vote or participate in the system.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)I suspect the Walt Starr approach will appeal to many of them.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)where one Hillary supporter is calling out to incite Bernie supporters into violence during the DNC.
You and I may not agree on much but that is seriously messed up....
People need to flippin' chill.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Politics, exercising our right to vote. We have to gauge whether we are physically in threat because the verge of violence is acceptable. wtf has happened with these people to argue this.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Just not the actual violence. Intimidation? Fine. Bullying with physical threat? Fine.
Just do not follow tegu with violence. That argument makes sense?
reformist2
(9,841 posts)My point is that with real democracy you often see strong feelings. And some may be scared by that, but you have to let people speak out. If you don't trust the people to control themselves, then you are essentially a Republican at heart.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)riversedge
(70,218 posts)it while Boxer was speaking was rude. Many Sanders supporters were out of line. How would like it if Clinton supporters had done that when Nina Turner was speaking.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Because she did flip the crowd on the way out and she told "Fuck You."
Really, we need to have a conversation of how you all need safe spaces. and by all means, STAY AWAY from your board meetings, they can get actually more heated.
My goodness what you saw there was well, POLITICS
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)pissed?
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)either you are new to politics, or you are pretending, but this is common. As to the terms used. damn it, that was not the worst I have ever heard at a heated meeting. In fact, while up there, it really was mild compared to some of it.
Do you need some lactaid and a gluten free cookie and nut free of course as well in that safe space of yours?
I cover politics, this was not that bad actually. It is fun when the cops produce flexi cuffs, gas masks and tear gas in city council and actually CITE people. They came THIS CLOSE to arresting people Since none was cited, this is normal heated politics
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Sexist/racist slurs. Regardless who you support nadin, some things remain a consistent which you fail in dismissing. First.
Second. I need a safe place? Fuck ya. I need a safe place to causus my vote where threat to physical body doesn't happen.
Are you suggesting that makes me weak not wanting to be a part of the threat of physical violence to vote?
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)and language is the least of the problems you have when actually breaking into a male dominated environment, and I do not consider you a liberal or a progressive. There, I said it.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)slurs are simply not ok and not a matter of a fuckin' "safe" place.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)yup, safe space language. College kids do that often. So should I expect now talk of oppression and supremacy? Maybe methods of oppression?
In the real wold where I cover politics, that is not going happen. Good luck though, I mean it. What happened in Nevada was actually not as bad as I have seen. Once I was looking at the window, the only way out. It was fun.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)She's horrible.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)A right to participate without threat.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Shemp Howard
(889 posts)The primaries are not over! No one has reached a pledged delegate majority, yet. Nevertheless, the establishment is calling for Sanders to give up and just go away. And Bernie's supporters are called "idiots" for not accepting that.
OK, I'm an idiot. I will continue to support Bernie, at least until the convention is over.
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azurnoir
(45,850 posts)insta8er
(960 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Personally, I think Malcom X was right.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)At the thought of voting for Trump or Hillary.
Prism
(5,815 posts)Another voice from the comfortable for the status quo heard.
Then you'll wonder why people are irritable and pretend outrage when they react as all humans do.
Are you having fun?
It's like watching folks hearing they're allowed to put a boot in people's faces and rushing out to DSW to grab a pair.
Neat for you.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)not that I care at all, but it is hilarious
Aerows
(39,961 posts)The steps going forward are unlikely to take place the way you imagine they will.
"The arc of the moral universe is slow, but it bends towards justice." - MLK
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)and alerting is over the damned top. Can't wait until June 7 when we can finally get some respite.