Will Hillary supporters allow suspect Wall Street insiders on Hillary's cabinet like Bill had?

[Quixote1818]

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This isn't a jab at Hillary supporters, I am just asking you if you will join us to fight any attempts to stop this if the attempt is made?

If Sanders loses which is very likely I will be voting for Hillary but it's going to take all of us to put pressure on her to break away from those who have financed her over the years. Can we at least agree to do this?

Nice video at link: https://www.facebook.com/HuffPostPolitics/videos/10153779671562911/

[JaneyVee]

1. Sorry, I dont believe all bankers are bad.

I judge people based on their individual actions.

[Quixote1818]

2. Fair point and we can take a look at them closely, but if it smells fishy will you get involved? nt

[JaneyVee]

6. What the hell am I gonna do?

I work 55 hours a week and am raising 2 little boys. So no.

[Quixote1818]

14. Well, at least you are honest. nt

[cali]

15. Lol.

[JaneyVee]

35. Right! Like Im gonna stand outside the WH 24/7 protesting.

I'll sign a petition. There.

[think]

3. Gensler helped write the CFMA. He's a peach....

The Most Disingenuous Attack on Bernie Yet

Wednesday, 20 January 2016 00:00
By The Daily Take Team, The Thom Hartmann Program | Op-Ed

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During his time at the Treasury, Gensler had pushed hard for Wall Street deregulation and even helped write the CFMA, something now-Senator Bernie Sanders found unacceptable. And so Bernie moved to block Gensler's nomination. Sanders explained his actions during an appearance on Democracy Now...

http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/34497-the-most-disingenuous-attack-on-bernie-yet

[Thinkingabout]

12. Sanders must have approved the CFMA, he voted for the bill.

[think]

19. Do you enjoy spreading Hillary half truths? What a load of crap....

The Most Disingenuous Attack on Bernie Yet

Wednesday, 20 January 2016 00:00
By The Daily Take Team, The Thom Hartmann Program | Op-Ed

If you watched Sunday's Democratic debate, you learned something interesting about Bernie Sanders: he voted for the Commodities Futures Modernization Act, something Hillary Clinton was all too eager to point out when the two of them got to talking about Wall Street reform.

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As Robert Scheer has pointed out over at Truthdig, then-Congressman Sanders voted for the CFMA, not because he wanted to, but because he had to.

The CFMA had been shoved into an omnibus spending bill at the last minute as part of a deal between Republicans and President Bill Clinton, and because this was a time when, you know, Congress actually did its job, Sanders bit the bullet and voted for the whole package - CFMA included - to keep the government open.

Only four members of Congress ended up opposing the final spending bill that included the CFMA, and one of them was Ron Paul, who opposed pretty much every spending bill. But that's just of the tip of the iceberg when it comes to how dishonest Clinton was being when she called Bernie out for voting for the CFMA....

Read more:
http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/34497-the-most-disingenuous-attack-on-bernie-yet

So former Goldman Sachs partner and Clinton administration official, Gary Gensler, pushed for Wall Street regulation and helped write the CFMA which got snuck into the final Omnibus spending bill. President Bill Clinton, Gensler's boss signed the Omnibus spending bill into law.

Had Sanders and the rest not voted on the spending bill the government would default on their monetary obligations to keep the government running.

And Hillary had the nerve to claim that it was Bernie's fault the CFMA passed. Such hypocrisy....

[Thinkingabout]

31. Hillary was not in congress at the time CFMA was passed in 2000, Sanders voting

For this bill is on Sanders, Hillary did not make him vote for the bill. Hartmann knows Sanders voted for this bill which played heavy in financial crisis.

[think]

40. Your loyalty is astounding. Hope you have a nice day....

[Thinkingabout]

32. Here is the link to the votes on CFMA, four Representatives voted nay

Sanders was not one of them.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/106-2000/h540

[Armstead]

41. This is bending reality to suit preconceptions

Voting against the spending bill in which the CMFA was buried in would have cut off funding for the government.

Sanders did the only responsible thing, and voted to keep government running.

That did NOT NOT NOT mean he supported that section of it. If he could have voted against it in a clean bill he would have.

If you had any clue of everything he was saying and doing at the time you would realize that.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

4. The supporters will have no say. Investors will.

[djean111]

5. I get the impression, sincerely, that all Hillary's supporters care about is Hillary becoming

president. And that they would instantly go into attack mode against anyone who dared to criticize anything at all. I mean - I never thought I would see a Rick Warren defended by DEMOCRATS, ya know? The Iraq war does not bother them, nor do her positions on the TPP and fracking and Social Security and single payer. Issues don't seem mean squat to them now, there is no reason to think that would change one little bit. Any criticism would likely be slapped with a charge of sexism.

And the thought of Hillary even giving a rat's ass about pressure is pretty damned amusing.

[Quixote1818]

8. So far, by the reaction to this thread you are looking on point

I hope the thread turns around.

[pmorlan1]

18. Don't count on it

Hillary supporters are not progressive, they never were. They are A-ok with corporations and banksters running this country.

[BootinUp]

9. Or is it the opposite? There is no attack on her policies, its all made up bullshit!

[That Guy 888]

24. What's made up? Usually the stuff that Sanders supporters dislike about Clinton involve

either statements directly from her or positions she took:

Hillary Clinton’s insane plan for a no-fly zone
The Democratic presidential frontrunner is calling for war against Russia over Syria and hoping no one notices

http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015/12/hillary-clintons-insane-plan-for-a-no-fly-zone.html

45 times Secretary Clinton pushed the trade bill she now opposes

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/15/politics/45-times-secretary-clinton-pushed-the-trade-bill-she-now-opposes/

As secretary of state in 2010, Clinton argued in favor of gas as "the cleanest fossil fuel available for power generation today," and said that "if developed, shale gas could make an important contribution to our region's energy supply, just as it does now for the United States." Her office, meanwhile, promoted fracking in developing nations.

After leaving the Obama administration in 2014, Clinton still emphasized the benefits of fracking, implying that strict limits on fracking should be the exception to the rule. In 2016, Clinton has flipped her emphasis, as Sanders has gained an edge from his anti-fracking stance: Now, she suggests it will be a rare, unlikely case when fracking should be allowed.

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2016/03/hillary-clinton-debate-fracking

[BootinUp]

25. Thanks for proving my point.

Go get an actual policy of hers and debate it, stop with the bullshit.

[That Guy 888]

30. Those are statements by her or positions she has already taken.

Once again Clinton supporters are asking us "Who do you believe, Hillary or your lyin' eyes?"

Show that she didn't advocate for a "No Fly Zone" in Syria.

Show that she wasn't an advocate for fracking.

Show that she didn't approve whole-heartedly of the "Gold Standard" TPP.

It's by her actions that we prove who she is, not pie in the sky "policies" that may or may not disappear once she is in office.

[2banon]

26. All of which is quite evident with every single HRC supporter here. Not ONE has EVER, EVER

expressed any concern about any these issues or other issues not mentioned, here.

Not a single HRC supporter. Not One. Not Ever.


I could copy and paste it over and over again, and never be refuted.

[cherokeeprogressive]

34. They're making "herstory"! This election is going to be "herstoric"! "A Herstorical Landmark"!

Policy? What's that.

"Herstory!"

[BootinUp]

7. She should get who she needs to enact her dang policies that no one wants to talk about. nt

[hobbit709]

10. The Anointed One can do no wrong and walks on water to her supporters.

[hrmjustin]

21. Thats funny because that's how I would describe Sanders supporters.

[hobbit709]

22. "She's the one" "It's her turn"

[hrmjustin]

23. "He is the real deal" "he is the true Democrat"

Btw she won.

[Thinkingabout]

11. I don't know if she will consider Sanders Wall Street banker friend or not.

[cali]

16. Typically less than cogent response.

[creeksneakers2]

13. There have always been Wall Street insiders

running the Treasury Department. Find somebody qualified who isn't.

[cali]

17. There are many economists who aren't Wall Street insiders.

[2cannan]

38. Any one of these 170 would probably be good (better than those thieves we've had up until now)...

170 Top Economists ‘Feel The Bern,’ Endorse Bernie Sanders’ Wall Street Reform Plan
https://berniesanders.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Wall-St-Letter-1.pdf

[creeksneakers2]

39. Doesn't the position require more than being an economist?

I think it would require knowledge about the nuts and bolts of how things work in major financial institutions.

[Armstead]

42. There are people with "knowledge of" who do not approve of shenaganins

[2cannan]

43. It seems mostly economics but yes it would probably be helpful to have some background in banking.

There are some on the list who have that background, William K Black, for example, who was instrumental in dealing with the past savings and loan scandals. Our current Treasury Secretary is another winner (sarcasm): http://wallstreetonparade.com/?s=jack+lew

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Secretary and Senior Officials
https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/faqs/About-Treasury/Pages/officials.aspx

Who is the current Secretary of the Treasury, what is his background, and what does he do?
The current Secretary of the Treasury​ is Jacob J. Lew. He was confirmed by the United States Senate on February 27, 2013.

The Secretary of the Treasury is responsible for formulating and recommending domestic and international financial, economic, and tax policy, participating in the formulation of broad fiscal policies that have general significance for the economy, and managing the public debt. The Secretary oversees the activities of the Treasury Department in carrying out his major law enforcement responsibilities; in serving as the financial agent for the U.S. Government; and in manufacturing coins and currency.

The chief financial officer of the Government, the Secretary of the Treasury serves on the President's National Economic Council. He is also Chairman of the Boards and Managing Trustee of the Social Security and Medicare Trust Funds, Chairman of the Thrift Depositor Protection Oversight Board, and serves as U.S. Governor of the International Monetary Fund, the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development, the Inter-American Development Bank, the Asian Development Bank, the African Development Bank, and the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development.

[hrmjustin]

20. Allow? I don't get a say so...

[Quixote1818]

28. Sure you do, she is a public servant and she works for you.

I am not saying you have to speak up and put pressure if you like someone but if they look fishy to you wouldn't you want to try? The public has frequently prevented cabinet members from being appointed. It's nothing new at all.

[hrmjustin]

33. Well i did protest her office on the Iraq War vote.

If she appointed someone i didn't like i would raise my voice.

[bjo59]

27. Americans didn't seem to care when Obama appointed bankers and corporate reps right after

he was elected. No wonder the corporatists couldn't see Bernie Sanders' popularity coming.

[hobbit709]

29. We cared, there just wasn't much we could do about it. Big money speaks loudly.

[onecaliberal]

36. Yes, why do you think they are giving her millions now? They're buying their

Cabinet positions.

[procon]

37. Once the demons, vampires and werewolves are seated, there won't be any more room.

You lot crack me up.

[Armstead]

44. You may be more accurate than you know

You really want Lloyd Blankfein calling the shots, either officially or unofficially as a "trusted advisor"?.....

Wait a minute, what am I saying? Silly question. Sorry.

[pdsimdars]

45. Or ACTUAL Wall Streeters like Obama had.